F80 [2025-] [Hot!] 2024 Ferrari F80 - it's Official!

[igor30041982]

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[StartYourEngines]

I was timing F80's last Goodwood run from today, and it did about 0:49s with huge burnout off the line.
I think if Ferrari wanted, they could have broken Koenigsegg's fresh production car record quite easily.

Yeah, I do agree with your statement.
As a further proof, I roughly timed another run of the F80 at mid-to-low 48 seconds, with a passenger.

Here below I report a link for direct visual comparison between the F80 run with passenger and the record run of the Sadair's Spear.
Videos are buffered to start at the same time once both cars launch.

F80 vs Sadair's Spear

The Sadair's Spear run was mighty impressive, car is fantastic and I have huge lot of respect for Koenigsegg being able - as a relatively small team - to build such performance machine all in-house, while still retaining all creature conforts.
Also, the most impressive feature of the Spear is its capability to put that huge power down just on its rear wheels, and not for mere (and I would say also useless) straight line speed, but for real handling and track performance. Given its aero, that car requires a very rigid platform (between chassis and suspensions) to cope with the loads at high speeds, yet it demonstrated excellent low-speed mechanical grip in its Goodwood run.
It is not easy at all to combine these two requirements, so this is a proof how good latest iterations of Koenigsegg Triplex suspensions have become.

Being said that, it appears to me that the F80 is still a step ahead.

The Koenigsegg platform still slightly squats and dives during acceleration and braking, while the F80 is running completely race car-like flat, like a magic carpet.
Those active suspensions are simply a game changer and they are just ahead of anything employed on road legal cars until now.
They can instantaneously imprint active forces into the system at each wheel corner, cancelling out effects due to body mass transfer and inertia.
Already on the Purosangue, they make the car behave like it is 300+ kg lighter, imagine them evolved and applied to a 499P-inspired carbon chassis with already an absurdly low center of mass (just look how low the engine in the F80 sits, for example).

More in general, the whole package (chassis + active suspensions + active aero + E-turbos + MGU-H/K + Challenge race car brakes) is just really, really good.
And what appears to be most impressive to me it's performance repeatability on track, which is quite often not a given for road legal hypercars.

I wouldn't even say that it sounds bad. It's just quieter than 296 because of senseless bureaucrats.

Not only because of that, but this is also due to the employment in the F80 of MGU-H units, which (coupled with the E-turbos) generate active power by harvesting the kinetic energy in excess released by the expansion process in the turbines.
So, exhaust gases do possess less energy upon their release in atmosphere, fact which contributes to the overall muffled effect.

Clearly the 296, with conventional turbos, is not affected by this phenomenon.

This is the same which happens with modern 1.6 L, V6 turbo F1 units which are quieter than turbo engines from the 80s, for example.

BTW, let me just tell you that I agree with everything you wrote in these last 2-3 pages. The F80 is just a monster, top tier technical stuff.

 

[Jonathan19]

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[mihc]

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[Revvd]

Paul Englert says here (6:04) that F80's bespoke Cup 2 R K1 is not as soft and grippy as Porsche OE compounds. Apparently Ferrari prioritize endurance over outright performance.

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[StartYourEngines]

From Laurent Chevalier, issue of July 2025 of Sport Auto:

"Forget Pagani, Koenigsegg and Bugatti."

"Les éventuels regrets du V12 ? Balayés ! Je n’ai jamais été aussi bluffé, abasourdi, étonné, subjugué au volant d’une voiture. C’est le sans-faute absolu, la copie inespérée, non seulement parfaite mais avec une âme, une patte unique et un toucher jamais rencontré. La F80 ne se contente pas de rester fidèle aux critères authentiques de la lignée des Supercars de Maranello. Elle repousse les limites au point de donner l’impression d’inventer une nouvelle palette de sensations."

"Any regrets about the V12? Swept away! I've never been so amazed, stunned, astonished, captivated behind the wheel of a car. It's absolutely flawless, the unexpected copy, not only perfect but with a soul, a unique touch and a never-before-seen feel. The F80 doesn't just remain faithful to the authentic criteria of the Maranello Supercar lineage. It pushes the limits to the point of giving the impression of inventing a new palette of sensations."

 

[StartYourEngines]

Robb Report: F80 is the best car I have ever driven

From Jonny Lieberman:

"Plenty of modern hypercars are absurdly quick, but few offer this level of control: It invites, even demands, that you attack a road or a circuit with total confidence—and attack is the right word. I’ve driven the Valkyrie, which struggles with low-speed stability, and Rhys Millen’s 2021 Bentley GT3 Pikes Peak car, which shares similar aerodynamics but lacks the same power. Both require aggression, but the F80 is in another league. Simply put, it’s safe to say that it drives better than anything I’ve ever experienced."

*The Bentley GT3 Pikes Peak race car was set to 850 hp when Lieberman tested it.

 

[Revvd]

From Jonny Lieberman:

If it came from anyone else, I'd consider it a high praise.

 

[klier]

*old man yells at clouds*

The car needs a V12 no matter how much they pay off these people to convince us otherwise.

What's the fun of this thing on public roads? All those quotes are fine for track use only, and completely meaningless on any public road.

 

[Sunny]

convince us

Who is "us"?

 

[Matski]

What's the fun of this thing on public roads?

This is a criticism that can be levelled at a significant number of cars. The answer is probably not fully deploying its performance - because fully deploying modern performance car's performance on public roads generally becomes illegal in a couple of seconds - it's how it makes you feel just driving it. I dare say many people would feel pretty damn good driving an F80, even if the sausage-fest of people with an opinion on your car didn't approve.

 

[StartYourEngines]

If it came from anyone else, I'd consider it a high praise.

Ok then, let me try to fix that.

Ferrari F80 : Au diable le romantisme

"Une efficacité spectaculaire :

Dès les premiers kilomètres, la F80 surprend par sa facilité. Confort de GT, direction fluide, moteur souple. [..]
En mode Performance [..], le souffle est continu, irréel, presque insaisissable dans sa linéarité implacable.
[..] Les freinages sont massifs, la direction chirurgicale, les phases de transfert de charges annihilées par une suspension active signée Multimatic. [..] Le roulis ? Disparu. Le cabrage ? Dissous. Le sous-virage ? Chassé. Le conducteur n’a plus qu’à viser la corde et libérer les chevaux."

"Spectacular efficiency:

From the very first kilometers, the F80 surprises with its ease of handling. GT-like comfort, fluid steering, smooth engine. [..]
In Performance mode [..], the driving experience is continuous, unreal, almost implacable in its relentless linearity.
[..] Braking is massive, the steering surgical, and load transfer phases are eliminated by an active suspension designed by Multimatic. [..] Body roll? Gone. Wheelie? Dissolved. Understeer? Banished. The driver just has to aim for the apex and unleash the power."

Also, from Ben Collins:

"Fastest" here is obviously defined by Ben as it properly should, i.e. with reference to the overall package.
Would that mean that the F80 exceeds even the Bohema?
That would be truly impressive, given how strictly oriented to pure performance (and how good at it) the Bohema is.

In any case, speaking for me, I don't really need any journalist telling me what is good and what is not.
What the F80 is, it was immediately clear to me the first day of its presentation when I did read its full spec sheet.
The only significant takeaway that I observe as a common point between all of these reviews (hence why I am posting them here for fun) is how exceptional this car is at truly involving its driver on the road.
This is not a given at all and it goes beyond "mere" performance targets, as the hard part for engineers is making different complex technological components work seamlessly together to achieve such result under any operating condition of the vehicle.

But I guess this is what you achieve when you are capable to properly put together arguably the best gearbox, brakes, engine (and turbos), steering and suspension systems available at the moment in the business.

 

[klier]

Who is "us"?

Some of us
The ones who prefer the king of engines over a V6

I dare say many people would feel pretty damn good driving an F80, even if the sausage-fest of people with an opinion on your car didn't approve.

Oh yeah, for sure.

 

[Merc1]

So is car no longer considered a dud/misstep now?

M

 

[klier]

So is car no longer considered a dud/misstep now?

M

No, the experts have decided it's not.

So shut up and adore it.

 

[Revvd]

What the F80 is, it was immediately clear to me the first day of its presentation when I did read its full spec sheet.

While I agree with your points about the seamless package and driver's involvement, I think the performance aspect of the car is yet to be fully understood.
Aside from the tires being not as grippy, there's also questions concerning the sustainability of F80's hybrid powertrain, and perhaps even whether there's any hidden asterisks to those incredible 300 PS per liter from its V6.

This is what Jethro wrote in the Czinger 21C track test:

"It feels faster than the F80 and doesn’t appear to derate as often."

We've just had the first round of reviews go out, and everybody is still winding down from excitement. In an ideal world, now would be the time to put down the rose tinted glasses, put on a lab coat and a racing helmet, and do some actual testing away from the Maranello PR team.

 

[Rolf]

The driving aspect of the F80 seems to be quite top-level stuff, but the emotional and senses aspect seems to be dulled abit with regards to the powertrain. A bit more noise from those exhausts could alter the traditionalist opinion and make them warm up more to its charms.