7 Series (F01) F01 / F02 BMW 7er - Spy Pics & Info Part V (The Countdown)

[Deleted member 25]

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Yeah i am also intersted in the engine, apart from the new TT V8, will there be any upgrades on the others ? What about chassis technologies ? Will there be 4WS ?

 

[PanterroR]

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There will be 4WS, 100%.

 

[Sunny]

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And I guess V12TT.

 

[PanterroR]

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For sure, but i don't know when. Not in these early stages...

 

[the1]

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So, 750i is the new 408hp V8TT or that is the 740i? Which engine does the 730d get, the 286hp version, or that should be the 735d?

 

[smeekmans]

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760 will come later (I saw the specific wood inserts for it)
750 and 740 are available in Li version from the beginning
730Ld half year later

Twin turbo diesel will take at least 1 year later (engine availability is a problem + 7 series buyers normally happy with 730d)

750 is new engine same as X6 (407 ps)
740 i don't know, wasn't listening at the time
730 same engine but now 245ps

 

[the1]

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I thought the 3.0 engine, as in the 530i or 130i has 272hp now.

So at launch the most powerful 7 will be 407hp 750i.

 

[vabboud]

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most probably the 740 will be the NA version of the new 4.4, there have been spy pics with data sheets inside that insinuated an NA 4.4, i forgot the exact terminology
so we will be getting a TTv8, probably tuned to s slither over 407, say 420hp
a circa 250hp 3.0I6, and a circa 320hp NA4.4
we can assume that sometime over the lifecycle the the TT engines (V8 and V12) will get power boosts, making the 735 viable within the range either as a 4th model slotted between 730 and 740 or as an outright replacement of 730

 

[Deleted member 25]

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I thought the 3.0 engine, as in the 530i or 130i has 272hp now.

I think he talks about the 730D

 

[the1]

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Ooops, he does, indeed. My bad.

 

[klier]

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most probably the 740 will be the NA version of the new 4.4, there have been spy pics with data sheets inside that insinuated an NA 4.4, i forgot the exact terminology
so we will be getting a TTv8, probably tuned to s slither over 407, say 420hp
a circa 250hp 3.0I6, and a circa 320hp NA4.4
we can assume that sometime over the lifecycle the the TT engines (V8 and V12) will get power boosts, making the 735 viable within the range either as a 4th model slotted between 730 and 740 or as an outright replacement of 730

The NA 4.4 with 320 hp sounds strange, because the last NA 4.4 V8 had 333 hp (545/645/745)
I'd say 740i with 340 hp.

 

[vabboud]

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hp numbers are marketing driven, i was just guessing a number you know
it might be any number given that for marketing prupose there must be a circa 80-100hp differential between models at the high end to justify their sales and existence, especially between the V8 models, less so for the I6 models as the 'pride" of having a V8 over an I6 offsets the hp imbalance (remember the old E39 530 and 535)

 

[smeekmans]

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wrt the bulges in the hood <-> flat look.
Usually if you look from the side the hood gradually gets higher towards the middle. As the bulges are close to the side of the hood, the hood is already at its highest point close to the side so that the space in between the bulges on both sides looks flat. There are no more bulges in the middle of the hood, as is the case with the X5
The whole idea is about giving the car a longer and slimmer look just as the old 7 that came out in 94.

The interior middle is again pointed towards the driver.
The wood/metallic finishes are same as X5 with a small metallic strip on the lower part. For the dashboard dials, it is backlit. When the lights are off, you only see the contours of the circle (not fully a circle but cut in the lower end), also without the km speed indicators. When the lights go on, the full thing is displayed.

The side indicators are led lights both on the front and the back.

 

[EnI]

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^


The rear design ...

Boot lid , bumper, rear lights, details ...

Please, tell them.
Most people are curious about the rear detailed description.



IDrive new GUI ... Tell them about that as well.

 

[smeekmans]

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New GUI unable to see as pre-production model and battery related stuff prevented from seeing it. Screen is large and should be very intuitive.
For the front it is not like the CS like chops, this is too aggressive. It is more classic.
For the back wrt the lights: the trunk part is very similar almost identical to the current 7 series facelift with lights and the metallic strip. I do not remember but I believe white reverse lights are integrated in the metallic strip.

The outer part of the lights go almost from the top (where the turning lights are in leds) to where you can see the marking in the spypics. Horizontally it is not fully straight, on the outer edge it curves a little downwards and then upwards on the side of the car. There are chops where you can see this but on the chops this is exaggerated.

Also the line and corner of the car is drawn through the lights in the glass
Above the line you have the turning lights which are leds. Underneath you have the regular lights which are striped (like all models now) towards the outer edge similar to the curving, the lights end in a CS like fashion.

The back of the car is very nice and more boxed like than the current model. The trunk does not lie on top of the car but is very well integrated.

The interior is exactly as on the pictures that have surfaced recently.
Leather colors: black, saddle, some kind of red (which was on the display model), oyster beige, grey
Outer colors: sames as usual, some new blue and some new grey (like sparkling graphite)
If I am not mistaken, the contours of the side mirrors were chromed as well.


This is it and now you wait until next month.

 

[Zafiro]

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but is the new 7-series better looking than current 7-series?

 

[smeekmans]

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Yes, definitely.
Interior is fantastic
Exterior still needs to grow on me.
I prefer the back - which is really nice - to the front, where it is a pity they did not go all the way.
There are some chops on the cover of autobild and stuff that have appeared, which scared me a lot, because it is a mix between 2 styles.
It is certainly not that bad as in those chops, but there is something estethically not right.

The front is for me a mix between two styles: one is the vertical grill which is excellent and impressive but the lights could have been more sharp/edgy to create a more square front. The lights are too round cut and not vertical enough. Something does not fit.

Also although I am a sapphire schwarz addict, i think the car will be much nicer in lighter colors. It should be the best in space grey to create that metallic look and see the shapes and lines at best.

Also if you look at the car from the side, the rear lights are a bit weird as they go up rather steep, they could have been more smoothh and extended.

 

[fortuner]

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thanks for all the updates about the new 7 really intrseting
so how do you compare it against the current 7 whats the biggest improvement and what do you think will it dethrone the s class

and hows the interiro quality ....

thanks again..

 

[Zafiro]

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are the frontlights more aggressive than this?

 

[Zafiro]

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so how do you compare it against the current 7 whats the biggest improvement and what do you think will it dethrone the s class

never going to happen, its like thinking that C-class will dethrone the 3-series