E63 ///amg

[martinbo]

Rev counter is far too small to do justice to such a charismatic engine. It really is quite insignificant. Who needs a full analogue clock in the instrument binnacle these days?

 

[GTA45E]

Rev counter is far too small to do justice to such a charismatic engine. It really is quite insignificant. Who needs a full analogue clock in the instrument binnacle these days?

I`ll agree with you about the clock but the instrument cluster I believe uses
the same dial size as the IWC CLS55. Here is an image of the IWC CLS55`s
cluster.

 

[GTA45E]

I just found out that the CLK63 uses ABC suspension. If the CLK63 uses it I`m sure the E63 will use it to! The E63 better be a killer track car!

 

[Nicholai_AMG]

the E63 don't use ABC it's a fact...but I'm sure it handle well anyway!!!

The AMG sports suspension based on the semi-active air suspension system AIRMATIC DC includes the Adaptive Damping System ADS II and allows the driver to choose between more comfortable or very sporty handling characteristics. The shock absorbers and springs instantly adapt to the current driving situation, but can also be manually modified in three stages at the touch of a button.

 

[Zafiro]

the AMG sports suspension based on the semi-active air suspension system AIRMATIC DC includes the Adaptive Damping System ADS II and allows the driver to choose between more comfortable or very sporty handling characteristics. The shock absorbers and springs instantly adapt to the current driving situation, but can also be manually modified in three stages at the touch of a button

sounds like the EDC on M5, look like someone studied the competition.

 

[GTA45E]

the E63 don't use ABC it's a fact...but I'm sure it handle well anyway!!!

I wonder why MB would equip the CLK63 with ABC when the CLK is a lower class model. That just doesn`t make since. ABC is a faster reacting better performing suspension than Airmatic.

Car&Driver says the CLK63 and CLS63 uses AirmaticII but the AMG website
says the CLK63 is equiped ABC. I know this is not the E63. Someone is giving the wrong info.

 

[Nicholai_AMG]

notice that the clk63's the ABC and is a lot cheaper than cls63 which has'nt ABC too....

I think it's an error....

The high-performance engine of the new CLS 63 AMG is partnered by the AMG SPEEDSHIFT 7G-TRONIC transmission, which offers the driver a choice between fully automatic and manual shifting, with changes actuated either at the selector lever or Formula 1 style, by a press of the aluminium gearshift paddles. Appropriately, the powerful engine is also mated with the new AMG sports suspension, based on the semiactive air suspension system AIRMATIC DC which incorporates the ADS II Adaptive Damping System, and with the new AMG high-performance brake system, which provides plenty of stopping power thanks to composite front brakes and vented and perforated brake discs on all wheels.

only the future will tell us the truth....

edit : ehehe you were faster gta!

 

[GTA45E]

I know I posted this in the other thread but check it out. Click on the CLK63 and check it`s suspension.

http://www.mercedes-amg.com/

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

sounds like the EDC on M5, look like someone studied the competition.

The adaptive nature of this suspension has been a feature of airmatic from its introduction in the S-class in 1999 no? Then the E's airmatic in 2002 added adaptive dampening as well, and now this is just a 3rd generation that probably opperates a lot more efficiently etc (hence the ADS II). So in actual fact airmatic has had adaptive dampening for a long long time.

Well that's my understanding. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[GTA45E]

Thats correct Mr.mercedes.

 

[bum-man]

The adaptive nature of this suspension has been a feature of airmatic from its introduction in the S-class in 1999 no? Then the E's airmatic in 2002 added adaptive dampening as well, and now this is just a 3rd generation that probably opperates a lot more efficiently etc (hence the ADS II). So in actual fact airmatic has had adaptive dampening for a long long time.

Well that's my understanding. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

I believe Mercedes had this in some of their cars from the 70's, it wasn't very reliable though.

So, ya, it does look like BMW studied the competition.

 

[ALI]

You guys , the CLK does not come with neither in the regular lineup . I think that's why they just added ABC , since the project will cost them anyway and the car at that level of power needed that kinda modification .

 

[GTA45E]

You guys , the CLK does not come with neither in the regular lineup . I think that's why they just added ABC , since the project will cost them anyway and the car at that level of power needed that kinda modification .

Yes, the normal CLK uses regular springs and shocks. We know the CLK63 now uses ABC. (according to the AMG site) If the E63 still uses Airmatic
thats a big disadvantage to ABC. ABC is way better and faster reacting!

Like I said really can`t see MB equiping the CLK63 with this excellent suspension while leaving the E63 and CLS63 with AirmaticII.

 

[Merc1]

I don't have time to look now, but the CLK63 uses ABC? Active Body Control from the S/CL/SL? I don't believe that.

M

 

[Zafiro]

The adaptive nature of this suspension has been a feature of airmatic from its introduction in the S-class in 1999 no? Then the E's airmatic in 2002 added adaptive dampening as well, and now this is just a 3rd generation that probably opperates a lot more efficiently etc (hence the ADS II). So in actual fact airmatic has had adaptive dampening for a long long time.

Well that's my understanding. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

EDC existed in M5 E34 so its hardly a new invention.
Im not talking about copy, this dont exist in E55 but in E63. Why? Probably because M5 has it. thats what Im saying and it has nothing to do with copying. So obviosly MB studied the compeition and now its available for E63 AMG..
Just because I say study the competition then I dont mean its something bad.

 

[GTA45E]

I don't have time to look now, but the CLK63 uses ABC? Active Body Control from the S/CL/SL? I don't believe that.

M

Merc1 -----> http://www.mercedes-amg.com/

Type up the CLS63 specs, then suspension!

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

EDC existed in M5 E34 so its hardly a new invention.
Im not talking about copy, this dont exist in E55 but in E63. Why? Probably because M5 has it. thats what Im saying and it has nothing to do with copying. So obviosly MB studied the compeition and now its available for E63 AMG..
Just because I say study the competition then I dont mean its something bad.

No no Just Me, I don't have a problem with what you're saying. I was just under the impression that since the standard 2002 E-class airmatic had adaptive dampening, surely the airmatic equipped E55 also had this adaptive dampening? Now with the E63 the adaptive dampening has again been upgraded which is why its been mentioned in the press release?

Hopefully a more knowledgeable MB fan can tell us if the airmatic system fitted to the E55 did in fact have adaptive dampening? I don't understand why it wouldn't have it when the standard system did.

 

[Zafiro]

No no Just Me, I don't have a problem with what you're saying. I was just under the impression that since the standard 2002 E-class airmatic had adaptive dampening, surely the airmatic equipped E55 also had this adaptive dampening? Now with the E63 the adaptive dampening has again been upgraded which is why its been mentioned in the press release?

Hopefully a more knowledgeable MB fan can tell us if the airmatic system fitted to the E55 did in fact have adaptive dampening? I don't understand why it wouldn't have it when the standard system did.

I dont know much about MB history (not much about BMW history either) but since someone wrote that quote I had to write what I thought When I read that qoute it sounded like there were 3 different settings. M5 has 3 settings as well normal, comfort, sport. What are those three settings called on E63?

 

[LaArtist]

The car is now up at AMG website ..check it out..you can twist and turn it

here are some pics

http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e63v11280x10249ce.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e63v21280x10240yj.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e63v31280x10240fo.jpg

 

[GTA45E]

Looks like thay kept Airmatic. Thay improved it though! The CLK63 will outperform the E63 on the track with it`s ABC setup. Thats for sure!