A4/S4/RS4 Breaking: Audi Drops Manual Transmission 6-Speed for EU Market Facelifted S4 and S5

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Breaking:
Audi AG Drops Manual Transmission 6-Speed for EU Market Facelifted S4 and S5 Range. US Retains Them!

 

[330CIZHP]

I always find it surprising where manufacturers say the demand is not enough in Europe for manuals when always the general impression is that driving manual transmission cars is far more common place in Europe as opposed to US where only 4 - 5% of the drivers drive a manual car.

 

[klier]

I always find it surprising where manufacturers say the demand is not enough in Europe for manuals when always the general impression is that driving manual transmission cars is far more common place in Europe as opposed to US where only 4 - 5% of the drivers drive a manual car.

Because we all have a manual, people want something new and more importantly, better.

For Europe, I think this is a smart move

 

[Deckhook]

I drove an S5 4.2 in manual and later on switched to an S-Tronic S4, anyone with experience of Audi Quattro cars with manuals will know that they don't like to be hurried and how perfectly matched S-Tronic is with Quattro. I'm a huge favour of these transmissions and it perfectly suits Audi's character of controlled efficiency.

Plus everything that Klier said.

 

[south]

I drove an S5 4.2 in manual and later on switched to an S-Tronic S4, anyone with experience of Audi Quattro cars with manuals will know that they don't like to be hurried and how perfectly matched S-Tronic is with Quattro. I'm a huge favour of these transmissions and it perfectly suits Audi's character of controlled efficiency.

Plus everything that Klier said.

That's it, I'll have to remove your name from the manual transmission club member list then!


Best regards,
south

 

[Giannis]

That's it, I'll have to remove your name from the manual transmission club member list then!


Best regards,
south

He sold his manual M3 for a Cayenne. Bob should be banned for life

 

[Deckhook]

That's it, I'll have to remove your name from the manual transmission club member list then!


Best regards,
south

Other forum but still a big fan of manuals too though personally I don't think Audi make that great of a manual compared to their dual clutchers which are epic so this decision truly suits on this occasion. I believe the M-DCT is also epic now too since they solved the issue I had with mine, but unlike Audi the BMW manual in general is rather good.

I think Klier hit the nail on the head, autos are novelty to us in the same way a manual is to those in the States.

 

[Deckhook]

He sold his manual M3 for a Cayenne. Bob should be banned for life

Never owned a manual M3, it was a M-DCT. Had issues that weren't getting resolved during the months I had and it became too annoying so I got rid, it was a shame because otherwise it was a great car.

 

[klier]

autos are novelty to us in the same way a manual is to those in the States.

You said it better than me.
Plus, a DCT just fits an Audi better than a manual imo. A BMW is great with manual because of it's technical design, but an Audi with AWD and DCT is a perfect match. Efficiency perfection.

BTW, I have never driven M DCT yet (unfortunately ), but I did get to try the regular BMW DCT on several occasions, and I love it to death!!!
Today for example I drove a Z4 35i with DCT. Launch control is so freaking fantastic

Me fooling around with the DCT.


I forgot how the launch control worked

 

[Deckhook]

You said it better than me.
Plus, a DCT just fits an Audi better than a manual imo. A BMW is great with manual because of it's technical design, but an Audi with AWD and DCT is a perfect match. Efficiency perfection.

Completely agree with you here, Audi's drivetrains are fwd based even the quattro ones so their gearboxes aren't as smooth as a proper rwd gearbox can be. That's why I prefer an Audi with S-Tronic instead of a manual and why I feel it was the right decision to make, not only that but as a DCT it is extremely good and my preferred DCT out of all of them.

BTW, I have never driven M DCT yet (unfortunately ), but I did get to try the regular BMW DCT on several occasions, and I love it to death!!!
Today for example I drove a Z4 35i with DCT. Launch control is so freaking fantastic

Me fooling around with the DCT.

This might not be the last word is handling when compared to the Cayman or Boxster but it looks better than both.

 

[Zafiro]

I feel manual should always be an option. Not for 2000 kg cars but for smaller cars like 1/3- series. To only offer automatics is unacceptable imo.

 

[Deckhook]

I feel manual should always be an option. Not for 2000 kg cars but for smaller cars like 1/3- series. To only offer automatics is unacceptable imo.

If the gearbox happens to be very good as is the case with a BMW then I would agree with you but from my personal experience of the S5 manual and S4 S-Tronic then I would pick the latter every time because it's so good to use and never picks the wrong gear. We have a manual GTI this time round instead of the DSG on the last one and even the wife wouldn't pick the manual again.

 

[Levi68]

A manual does not fit heavy AWD cars like Audi. Even a 5 Series does not need any manual. But when we talk about smaller lighter cars then it sould be offered.

 

[Soup]

Manual is dying

 

[Mr Robert]

No need for a manual in a car like that. In a sporty car, however, I still think it is really important.

 

[Deckhook]

No need for a manual in a car like that. In a sporty car, however, I still think it is really important.

That's a person opinion don't you think because Ferraris of late have almost exclusively come or been bought with a semi-auto.

 

[donkeykong]

No need for a manual in a car like that. In a sporty car, however, I still think it is really important.

The S4 is sporty.

 

[Mr Robert]

That's a person opinion don't you think because Ferraris of late have almost exclusively come or been bought with a semi-auto.

Yeah, like I said, "I still think". It's my opinion

The S4 is sporty.

I think it's better off with an automatic.

 

[donkeykong]

I think it's better off with an automatic.

I 100% agree with you. A dsg suites the S4 perfectly,I just thought you meant the S4 wasn't sporty overall.

 

[Zafiro]

I've tried all kind of automatics but Im still not convinced. My next car is getting manual gearbox. Its suits me better.