Poll BMW F90 M5 vs. Mercedes-Benz W213 E63s
Yeah, I met the guy in real life at last years AutoShow, these photos are mine btw.
Other than the radical paint, large blacked out wheels and front airdam it looked like an ordinary 5er imo.
Driving comfort used to be a Mercedes thing with an AMG badge/ not and AMG thing.
It is quite obvious that AMG now has a greater hand in the engineering/ tuning department then they had in the past.
We have a totally different breed of the performance cars wearing the 3-pointed star now.
The E63s is obviously geared toward higher velocities. The slightly firmer suspension setting might have a more even ride quality at higher speeds than a softer one. The softer setting is definitely going to translate some choppiness at triple digit speeds.
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Pure bs isn`t it?
Makes me wonder how the normal M5 would have stacked up in this test.
On paper I would bet the Competiton Pack vs the standard M5 are extremely minimal and not worth the price gap.
Come face/lift time it would be nice for MB to drop the step-down E63 for a 659ps track version to face off the M5 Competition Pack. The differences from a track-version AMG I would bet would be larger.
Speaking of best all-arounder, one would definitely have to take these cars on a run himself to determine which one suits their needs best. (I personally would take more feedback through the steering of a hi-performance sedan than ride comfort).
Frankie G
Oversteer Expert
I read on a different forum that Evo UK's March 2019 issue features a twin-test between the M5 Competition and E63 S. Snippet from their conclusion below but IMO, the author pussy-footed in writing which he thought was the preferred super saloon of choice.
"Ostensibly the M5 Competition is a more complete and polished performer. It's the quiet one, but its rivers run deep. By contrast, the Mercedes is more honest in what it's been engineered to be, its secrets given up earlier, to be enjoyed more of the time. Yet arguably both are too big and too heavy for their performance potential to be fully enjoyed. But the existence of this new breed, the hypersaloon, should be celebrated as much as its predecessors continue to be. And if you still yearn for a new car that fits the traditional supersaloon mantra, you can always look towards both of these cars' smaller, lighter and more focussed siblings."
"Ostensibly the M5 Competition is a more complete and polished performer. It's the quiet one, but its rivers run deep. By contrast, the Mercedes is more honest in what it's been engineered to be, its secrets given up earlier, to be enjoyed more of the time. Yet arguably both are too big and too heavy for their performance potential to be fully enjoyed. But the existence of this new breed, the hypersaloon, should be celebrated as much as its predecessors continue to be. And if you still yearn for a new car that fits the traditional supersaloon mantra, you can always look towards both of these cars' smaller, lighter and more focussed siblings."
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
EVO is rubbish IMO, I don’t take them seriously anymore.
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
Yes, Autocar are the worst closely followed by Evo , German car magazines are by far the best. I do like AutoExpress as well because they are one of the few European magazines that do extensive measured tests of their cars down to the actual weight of the car , to back up their conclusions.
Why does there HAVE to be a preference though?
rsG32er
Das Erste Gear
am more of a BMW fan than Mercedes. But if you're spending this amount of money, drama would play a big part for me. The 63 would get the nod just because it seems more angry and projects this more outwardly.
I haven't driven either, this is just opinion based on press/event pictures and standing next to the cars / sitting in them
buyers definitely would want to use reviews as a way to help them shortlist - but just taking opinions from the bigger names would seem a bit odd - you have to drive the thing and make your own mind up. shame I've not had the chance - dream stuff !
I haven't driven either, this is just opinion based on press/event pictures and standing next to the cars / sitting in them
buyers definitely would want to use reviews as a way to help them shortlist - but just taking opinions from the bigger names would seem a bit odd - you have to drive the thing and make your own mind up. shame I've not had the chance - dream stuff !
Frankie G
Oversteer Expert
I never said there did but what's the point in having a comparison without some sort of conclusion? If you find the cars are equal in all or most measures, then call it so. If you have a preference as to which you would buy regardless of standing, why not put in print instead of wish-washing the article?
I could be mistaken but that's what I took away from reading it, just my perspective..
But there is a conclusion...
"Ostensibly the M5 Competition is a more complete and polished performer. It's the quiet one, but its rivers run deep. By contrast, the Mercedes is more honest in what it's been engineered to be, its secrets given up earlier, to be enjoyed more of the time."
...which has been arrived at by driving both cars back-to-back and putting each in context. Which one HE would prefer is completely irrelevant, because that's entirely dependent on what the individual is looking for.
Frankie G
Oversteer Expert
Have you read the whole article?
I haven't read ANY of the article. Not sure why that's relevant anyway that when just in the section you're quoting there is a conclusion.
Why there needs to always be a binary conclusion when opinions are subjective and FAR from binary, is beyond me.
Frankie G
Oversteer Expert
I agree with you on opinions being subjective but I was referring to the whole write-up.
Your thoughts are noted..
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
The M5 was certainly more tail happy than the E63 S in that video, as usual very entertaining comparison.
Frankie G
Oversteer Expert
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
Surprised MB fans haven't commented yet,I mean the E63s just beat the might M5,unless they haven't seen it yet.
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