SCOTT27
Drift Dynamo
LCI in Snapper Rocks Blue.That color and wheels...
The BMW M5 is a high-performance variant of the BMW 5 Series marketed under the BMW M sub-brand. It is considered an iconic vehicle in the sports saloon category. The first M5 model was hand-built beginning in late 1984 on the E28 535i chassis with a modified engine from the M1 that made it the fastest production saloon at the time. M5 models have been produced for every generation of the 5 Series since 1984, with occasional gaps in production (1995 to 1998, 2023 to 2024). Official website: BMW M
Frankie G
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From evo UK's latest issue. Do you have the scans?
No, unfortunately I don't have them
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The G30/31 is going to be such an extremely tough act for its' successor to follow.
Frankie G
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Evo issue - 286 out now:
"Other dynamic aspects of the E63 contrast with the M5, too. I often find the steering of AMGs a fraction too heavy, and frustratingly it’s one of the few characteristics that you can’t adjust in the set-up menu. But after a couple of stints at the wheel, I found myself preferring the E63’s weighting and ended up switching the steering on the M5 from Comfort to the weightier Sport, just to calm things down a little. And although the BMW’s optional carbon-ceramic brakes probably offer more endurance, especially if you’re tempted to venture onto a track, I prefer the softer, less abrupt step-in of the Mercedes’ iron discs."
"Meanwhile, with dry asphalt under its wheels, the M5 just gets better, that firmer Competition chassis coming into its own. Knowing how it felt from the off, this is expected, and while the M5 doesn’t exactly shrink around you, it feels the lighter, more agile and more exciting car. In the right circumstances you can still play with the odd powerslide, too, though just as in the wet, all aids are off so you need to know what you’re about. This E63 rides better and has more composure than the estate we drove a year ago but there’s no question that the BMW is the sharper tool for dissecting a road, offering more steering feedback and precision, more connection with the road. That said, the E63 still has the grip and pace to peg the M5."
BMW M5 Competition
Engine V8, 4395cc, twin-turbo Power 616bhp@6000rpm
Torque 553lb ft@1800-5860rpm Weight 1895kg Power-to-weight 330bhp/ton
0-62mph 3.3sec Top speed 155mph (limited) Basic price £102,325
evo rating 4.5
Mercedes-AMG E63 S
Engine V8, 3982cc, twin-turbo Power 604bhp@5750-6500rpm
Torque 627lb ft@2500-4500rpm Weight 1935kg Power-to-weight 317bhp/ton
0-62mph 3.4sec Top speed 186mph (limited) Basic price £96,565
evo rating 4.5
It sounded like they enjoyed driving both cars in rear-wheel drive mode and it was clear the E63 S was the more comfortable super saloon, while the M5 Competition the more engaging to drive.
NB: no acceleration or track testing.
"Other dynamic aspects of the E63 contrast with the M5, too. I often find the steering of AMGs a fraction too heavy, and frustratingly it’s one of the few characteristics that you can’t adjust in the set-up menu. But after a couple of stints at the wheel, I found myself preferring the E63’s weighting and ended up switching the steering on the M5 from Comfort to the weightier Sport, just to calm things down a little. And although the BMW’s optional carbon-ceramic brakes probably offer more endurance, especially if you’re tempted to venture onto a track, I prefer the softer, less abrupt step-in of the Mercedes’ iron discs."
"Meanwhile, with dry asphalt under its wheels, the M5 just gets better, that firmer Competition chassis coming into its own. Knowing how it felt from the off, this is expected, and while the M5 doesn’t exactly shrink around you, it feels the lighter, more agile and more exciting car. In the right circumstances you can still play with the odd powerslide, too, though just as in the wet, all aids are off so you need to know what you’re about. This E63 rides better and has more composure than the estate we drove a year ago but there’s no question that the BMW is the sharper tool for dissecting a road, offering more steering feedback and precision, more connection with the road. That said, the E63 still has the grip and pace to peg the M5."
BMW M5 Competition
Engine V8, 4395cc, twin-turbo Power 616bhp@6000rpm
Torque 553lb ft@1800-5860rpm Weight 1895kg Power-to-weight 330bhp/ton
0-62mph 3.3sec Top speed 155mph (limited) Basic price £102,325
evo rating 4.5
Mercedes-AMG E63 S
Engine V8, 3982cc, twin-turbo Power 604bhp@5750-6500rpm
Torque 627lb ft@2500-4500rpm Weight 1935kg Power-to-weight 317bhp/ton
0-62mph 3.4sec Top speed 186mph (limited) Basic price £96,565
evo rating 4.5
It sounded like they enjoyed driving both cars in rear-wheel drive mode and it was clear the E63 S was the more comfortable super saloon, while the M5 Competition the more engaging to drive.
NB: no acceleration or track testing.
manuelf
Kraftkurve King
Yep. And in case F1x -> G3x it is tough "twofold":
G3x was a perfectly executed design evolution (not a revolution, which is sometimes hard to swallow with BMW).
... and technically the F1x was a heavy iron pig ... so G3x did become considerably lighter and together with its further refined chassis, it was a rather big step forward regarding driving dynamics! Really a very big challenge for the successor!
manuelf
Kraftkurve King
Lucky AMG.
In both disciplines the M5 Comp. LCI would have easily spanked AMGs butt.
Frankie G
Premium
Speaking of which, I don't think Evo have track tested either of these cars around Bedford Autodrome. But the internet is a wash with tests showing the M5 Competition to be quicker.Lucky AMG.
In both disciplines the M5 Comp. LCI would have easily spanked AMGs butt.
Merc1
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BMW M
BMW M GmbH, formerly known as BMW Motorsport GmbH, is a subsidiary of
BMW AG that manufactures high-performance luxury cars. BMW M ("M" for "motorsport")
was initially created to facilitate BMW's racing program, which was very successful
in the 1960s and 1970s. As time passed, BMW M began to supplement BMW's vehicle
portfolio with specially modified higher trim models, for which they are now most
known by the general public. These M-badged cars traditionally include modified engines,
transmissions, suspensions, interior trims, aerodynamics, and exterior modifications
to set them apart from their counterparts. All M models are tested and tuned at BMW's
private facility at the Nürburgring racing circuit in Germany.
Official website: BMW M
Official website: BMW M
