Poll BMW 5 Series vs Mercedes E Class


Which has the best overall design ?


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Quite a different perception to @GTA45E. How would you compare it to the E Mick?
Terms like premium are a bit vague to me. What does premium mean and when is something, like a car or cars's interior, considered to be premium.

Let's for the sake of argument assume, that the term implies something of superior quality. Then the term premium would be the last, that comes to my mind, to describe the G60 5er as such and it's interior in particular.

When something is considered premium is in my opinion highly subjective. It depends on your frame of reference and many other factors play a role. What's premium for person X could be considered by person Y as barely satisfying.

All that said, in my opinion the look and feell of the E class interior is, at least, half a class above of that of the 5er. Besides, the W214 I drove several weeks ago, was rock solid; no rattles, noises that don't belong there or anything else.
 
Quite a different perception to @GTA45E. How would you compare it to the E Mick?

When you say it feels more premium, are you talking about the finish or just the build? The 5 has felt more solid than the E since the W213, but the E seems to impress more with finishes and design.

I am not going to change Mick's viewpoint. It is a solid argument.
My perception about premium in this case are the materials used in this comparison and how they feel to the touch. Much less about the perception of premium to the eye. Again I am not going to try and change someone else's viewpoint.

The fact that I have been in both these cars back to back, two days in a row drew me to a personal conclusion.

For example, I gave a little tug on the door cards, the door handles of both these cars while the doors were closed and the E-Class had a little more flex and still has that very slight hollow feeling. It is an improvement compared to the S and C-Class which have received some criticism for not having the most robust quality interiors for their price tags. The 5er in comparison did not have any flex on the handles and the overall materials felt more sturdy and of a higher grade. The lower storage area of the 5er also felt unquestionably more of a higher-grade plastic than the E.
The haptics of the switchgear in the 5er also felt slightly more sturdy than the E-Class.

Where the E-Class shines here is the finished product as you mentioned. It comes across as a bit more refined IMO.

The metallic finish on the window switches, HVAC vents, and speaker grills adds "theater- luxury" and drama to the cabin and these elements are of a finer more distinctive shape to them that is unique to top-end Mercedes cars.

Some of the switchgear in the 5er is just plain ordinary and can be seen in a host of other luxury cars.
This alone is going to change someone`s viewpoint about what looks “cheap” and what does not.

Packaging is critical in this crop of luxury cars IMO

The E-Class is like a gentleman dressed in a tailored suit jacket and chino slacks. One casually dressed to go to a fine dining restaurant.

The 5er has a different approach. It is like a dude dressed in his sport jacket and track pants ready to run a few hot laps. The perceptions of these two cars are drastically different and will play a role in what one describes as premium.

BMW desperately needs to work on more "theater-luxury", in their interior details that are unique to the brand.
Mercedes needs to work on more premium-grade materials to the touch. This new E-Class is pretty darn good for what it is, but so is the 5-Series.
 
All that said, in my opinion the look and feell of the E class interior is, at least, half a class above of that of the 5er.

Please don't let Leylandi read your login data, Mick. You've been hacked by a fanboy.

Terms like premium are a bit vague to me. What does premium mean and when is something, like a car or cars's interior, considered to be premium.

It might be an idea for you to step outside the S class for a bit and go have some sweet quality time in a Ford, Kia, or whatever brand [except the Germans/supercars] and remember what's premium again ;)
 
Some comparison data from Car and Driver tests on the W214 E350 vs G60 530i vs W213 E300 vs G30 530i and W214 E450 vs W213 E450 vs G30 540i. They havent yet tested the G60 540i but once that happens I will update the tables.

2017 BMW 530i xDrive (G30)2024 BMW 530i xDrive (G60)2024 Mercedes-Benz E350 4Matic (W214)2017 Mercedes-Benz E300 4Matic (W213)
front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedanVehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedanVehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedanVehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
ENGINEENGINEENGINEENGINE
turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injectionturbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, port and direct fuel injectionturbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injectionturbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection
122 in3, 1998 cm3Displacement: 122 in3, 1998 cm3Displacement: 122 in3, 1999 cm3Displacement: 122 cu in, 1991 cc
248 hp @ 6500 rpmPower: 255 hp @ 6500 rpmPower: 255 hp @ 5800 rpmPower: 241 hp @ 5500 rpm
258 lb-ft @ 1450 rpmTorque: 295 lb-ft @ 1600 rpmTorque: 295 lb-ft @ 2000 rpmTorque: 273 lb-ft @ 1300 rpm
TRANSMISSIONTRANSMISSIONTRANSMISSIONTRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic8-speed automatic9-speed automatic9-speed automatic
CHASSISCHASSISCHASSISCHASSIS
NASuspension, F/R: multilink/multilinkSuspension, F/R: multilink/multilinkNA
NABrakes, F/R: 13.7-in vented disc/13.6-in vented discBrakes, F/R: 13.5-in vented disc/12.6-in vented discNA
NATires: Continental EcoContact 6 QTires: Continental EcoContact 6QNA
NAF: 245/35R-21 96Y ★ MOF: 245/35R-21 96Y ★ MONA
NAR: 275/30R-21 98Y ★ MOR: 275/30R-21 98Y ★ MONA
DIMENSIONSDIMENSIONSDIMENSIONSDIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 117.1 inWheelbase: 117.9 inWheelbase: 116.6 inWheelbase: 115.7 in
Length: 194.6 inLength: 199.2 inLength: 194.9 inLength: 193.8 in
Width: 73.5 inWidth: 74.8 inWidth: 74.0 inWidth: 72.9 in
Height: 58.2 inHeight: 59.6 inHeight: 57.9 inHeight: 57.8 in
Passenger volume: 99 ft3Passenger Volume, F/R: 55/46 ft3Passenger Volume, F/R: 58/47 ft3Passenger volume: 98 cu ft
Trunk volume: 19 ft3Trunk Volume: 18 ft3Trunk Volume: 13 ft3Cargo volume: 13 cu ft
Curb weight: 4013 lb (1820kg)Curb Weight: 4090 lb (1855kg)Curb Weight: 4279 lb (1941kg)Curb weight: 4060 lb (1842kg)
C/D TEST RESULTSC/D TEST RESULTSC/D TEST RESULTSC/D TEST RESULTS
Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec60 mph: 5.5 sec60 mph: 5.8 secZero to 60 mph: 6.5 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.6 sec @ 97 mph1/4-Mile: 14.2 sec @ 96 mph1/4-Mile: 14.3 sec @ 96 mphStanding ¼-mile: 15.0 sec @ 92 mph
Zero to 100 mph: 15.6 sec100 mph: 15.4 sec100 mph: 15.8 secZero to 100 mph: 17.7 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 24.1 se130 mph: 30.6 sec130 mph: 31.7 secZero to 120 mph: 27.3 sec
NA140 mph: 40.3 secNANA
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.9 secRolling Start, 5–60 mph: 6.5 secRolling Start, 5–60 mph: 6.7 secRolling start, 5-60 mph: 7.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.6 secTop Gear, 30–50 mph: 3.5 secTop Gear, 30–50 mph: 3.4 secTop gear, 30-50 mph: 3.7 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.5 secTop Gear, 50–70 mph: 4.2 secTop Gear, 50–70 mph: 4.5 secTop gear, 50-70 mph: 5.0 sec
Top speed (governor limited): 128 mphTop Speed (mfr's claim): 155 mphTop Speed (gov ltd): 130 mphTop speed (governor limited): 129 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 180 ftBraking, 70–0 mph: 156 ftBraking, 70–0 mph: 150 ftBraking, 70-0 mph: 154 ft
NABraking, 100–0 mph: 318 ftBraking, 100–0 mph: 305 ftNA
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.91 gRoadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.92 gRoadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.93 gRoadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMYC/D FUEL ECONOMYC/D FUEL ECONOMYC/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 24 mpgObserved: 26 mpgObserved: 24 mpgC/D observed: 25 mpg
75-mph highway driving: 34 mpg75-mph Highway Driving: 35 mpg75-mph Highway Driving: 35 mpgNA
Highway range: 610 miles75-mph Highway Range: 550 mi75-mph Highway Range: 600 miNA
EPA FUEL ECONOMYEPA FUEL ECONOMYEPA FUEL ECONOMYEPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/city/highway: 27/23/33 mpgCombined/City/Highway: 30/27/35 mpgNAEPA city/highway driving: 22/29 mpg


2024 Mercedes-Benz E450 4Matic (W214)2021 Mercedes-Benz E450 4Matic (W213)2017 BMW 540i xDrive (G30)
Vehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedanVEHICLE TYPE:front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedanfront-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
ENGINEENGINEENGINE
turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injectionturbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injectionturbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 183 in3, 2999 cm3183 in3, 3000 cm3183 in3, 2998 cm3
Power: 375 hp @ 6100 rpm362 hp @ 6100 rpm335 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 369 lb-ft @ 1800 rpm369 lb-ft @ 1600 rpm332 lb-ft @ 1380 rpm
TRANSMISSIONTRANSMISSIONTRANSMISSION
9-speed automatic9-speed automatic8-speed automatic
CHASSISCHASSISCHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilinkSuspension (F/R): multilink/multilinkNA
Brakes, F/R: 14.6-in vented, cross-drilled disc/14.2-in vented discBrakes (F/R): 14.2-in vented, cross-drilled disc/14.2-in vented discNA
Tires: Continental EcoContact 6QTires: Goodyear Eagle Sport All-Season RunOnFlat, 245/45R-18 100H M+S MOExtended ★NA
F: 245/35R-21 96Y ★ MONA
R: 275/30R-21 98Y ★ MONA
DIMENSIONSDIMENSIONSDIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 116.6 inWheelbase: 115.7 inWheelbase: 117.1 in
Length: 194.9 inLength: 194.3 inLength: 194.6 in
Width: 74.0 inWidth: 73.7 inWidth: 73.5 in
Height: 57.9 inHeight: 57.8 inHeight: 58.2 in
Passenger Volume, F/R: 58/47 ft3Passenger volume: 97 ft3Passenger volume: 98 ft3
Trunk Volume: 13 ft3Trunk volume: 13 ft3Trunk volume: 19 ft3
Curb Weight: 4466 lb (2026kg)Curb weight: 4252 lb (1929kg)Curb weight: 4171 lb (1892kg)
C/D TEST RESULTSC/D TEST RESULTSC/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 4.4 sec60 mph: 4.3 secZero to 60 mph: 4.5 sec
100 mph: 10.9 sec100 mph: 11.0 secZero to 100 mph: 11.0 sec
1/4-Mile: 13.0 sec @ 109 mph1/4 mile: 12.9 sec @ 108 mphStanding ¼-mile: 13.1 sec @ 108 mph
120 mph: 15.9 secNAZero to 120 mph: 16.4 sec
NANANA
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 5.0 secRolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 secRolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 secTop gear, 30–50 mph: 2.8 secTop gear, 30-50 mph: 2.8 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 3.5 secTop gear, 50–70 mph: 3.5 secTop gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec
Top Speed (gov ltd): 129 mphTop speed (governor limited): 128 mphTop speed (governor limited): 128 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 159 ftBraking, 70–0 mph: 187 ftBraking, 70-0 mph: 169 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 327 ftNANA
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.93 gRoadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 gRoadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMYC/D FUEL ECONOMYC/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 24 mpgObserved: 24 mpgC/D observed: 21 mpg
75-mph Highway Driving: 35 mpgNAC/D observed 75-mph highway driving: 31 mpg
75-mph Highway Range: 600 miNAC/D observed highway range: 550 mi
EPA FUEL ECONOMYEPA FUEL ECONOMYEPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 25/22/31 mpgCombined/city/highway: 26/23/30 mpgEPA combined/city/highway driving: 23/20/29 mpg
 
This is an excellent comparison video. This tested goes into alot of detail about everything about the interiors, boot space, engines and track comparison where he drives both cars hard.

Its 1hr of entertaining watching.

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I recently went to my Mercedes dealer to test drive the top-dog E450 4Matic and it was not what I was expecting. This will be a quick review.

This time around at the dealership, unlike my Auto Show visit (which was a little rushed, especially on the second day) I spent some time with the new E-Class, as both a passenger and driver over a two-day visit.

I will start with the interior and conclude, that for a modern-day Mercedes, it takes the crown as having the best quality in the Mercedes sedan range. In my Auto Show experience, I said that the 5er was better, but after spending some quality time with the new E-Class, like I did test driving the new 5-Series, it is close IMO. Some small details are budget quality like the new 5er but it will not spoil the experience IMO.

The doors are a little heavy, sturdy feeling, and very well insulated. They also sound solid when closing. The dashboard and door storage area feel premium grade by today's luxury car standards.

This particular car had the wood panel without the super-screen- screen which I wanted to experience first hand and in real life it looks so much better than the super-screen IMO. Playing with the MBux is rather complex but once one gets the learning curve, everything falls into place quite easily. The 4D Burmester audio system is detailed and sounds great with the subs built into the seats. ** @klier my friend, I turned the Ambient lighting blue specifically for you since you did not like the pink in the AutoShow image**

In pictures and videos, this dashboard looks a little on the bulky side IMO. This is not the case IRL. I did not like this interior design at first but after spending time with it, I like it a lot, especially in this configuration. I like it better than the 5-Series, but that is just my personal opinion. It is oozing with personality, luxury, and overall detail characteristics that an opulent, detail-oriented individual would appreciate.

Driving impressions:

My first pull-off from the parking garage was surprising, to say the least!
In comfort mode, this car has a level of confidence and diving composure that simply wants you to drive it.

The steering has good feedback and feeling to it . The ride quality in comfort mode is supple and complaint to the road surfaces, even over railroad tracks and large bumps, it is tight as a drum and well controlled on damping inputs without being floaty.

I finally put it in sports mode after a while. The steering and suspension tighten up and the throttle becomes more responsive. (The differences in Sport vs Comfort in these newer Mercedes models is perceptible.) You can put all those thoughts about the new E450 being an “old man's luxury boat” aside. This car loves to be driven. I had it out for a long time, around town and on the freeway. In sport mode, the E450 shrinks around you and becomes BMW-like in its telepathic communication. This is a big, heavy car but the weight management is excellent, even at hi-speeds and passing situations, the E450 lets you know exactly what is going on with it. The communication factor is probably one element missing in the previous model and most likely any other E-Class. It is an amazing experience and a bit sporty feeling in composure. It reminds me of the previous generation 540I xDrive Sport Package.

The E450 is fast as well with great throttle inputs. The transmission shifts are smooth with good kick-down times.

The M256 is a strong work-horse of an engine and pulls quite hard when you need it to with zero turbo lag. With its 0-60 time of 4.4 seconds, you don`t need a V8 at all. At normal freeway cruising speeds you could take this car on a road trip with the greatest ease. One could drive this car for hrs on the motorway. There is nothing busy or fussy about its driving characteristics. My only small complaint was the brake pedal feel. There seemed to be a tiny delay on the initial brake bite to slow the car down. This particular vehicle only had like 7 miles on it so it is still very young.

I walked away impressed at the driving experience of this new E450. Mercedes has added an element of, dare I say, driver dynamics. If you are in for trading up on an older model E-Class, or S-Class I believe you are going to be impressed taking the E450 for a spin. I would recommend it for sure.

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My first day was a ride-along, I just happened to spot a pre-owned 2019 E63 sitting in the background.
This is my first time experiencing the AMG M177 V8 in its most edgy form in real life as a passenger. goddamn!! Is this thing mad-angry, loud, and just raw feeling. In race mode taking off on the freeway, it just roars like a lion and pins you in the seat with a massive amount of g-force with all the pops and bangs on the overrun.
Mercedes AMG needs to come up with G-force reduction seat technology. This thing pulls so damn hard, it's insane!
Several journalists were complaining about the ride quality. Sure it’s a bit on the firm side but it didn`t feel that bad in comfort mode, even over the same railroad tracks I experienced in the E450.
I can see why AMG customers want the V8 back. As good as the new E53 might be, it is not going to be a replacement for the V8 in an E63. The M177 is a jewel of an engine in the E63 package.
 
I love you for these little things, LMAO
The interior with the matte yacht like wood is so much better than the hyperscreen. Simply classy.

Great write up my friend. Worth more than these hack job influencers we have these days.
 
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The new E450 is a very good drivers car. I built up some curiosity to go test drive its direct rival, this handsomely specced BMW 540i XDrive with its passive M-Sport suspension, and I was also impressed by it. (I am late in posting this but my test drive with the 540i was 3-days after the E450 4-Matic and my write-up was directly after driving the 540i when my impressions were fresh)
These cars are closely matched this time around. It is going to come down to personal preferences on which is going to suit your needs. Mercedes has come close to BMW with sporty dynamics and BMW has stepped into the luxury ring with Mercedes. There are some things that stand out for me personally so I made a short listing.

1. The E450 has superior steering feedback and the engine response seemed better.
2. The differences between the drive modes are more perceptible in the E450.
3. The ride quality is also better in the E450 with superior damping control. The 5er seems to have a twitching action, in that it moves around under you in moderate actions, yet it still feels a touch sportier than the E450.
4. The 5er seems to have slightly better seat comfort in the front. The rears go to the E450.
5. The 5er center stack with the gear selector finished in the piano black plastic feels cheap.
6. MBUX in the E-Class is a little more straightforward with less menu diving than I-Drive 8.5
7. The brakes upon initial bite is more linear in the 5er.
8. Stereo sounds better in the E450.

For me, the E450 checks more positive boxes than the 5er but the 5er is still a great car, and to me looks much better in person than in photos.
It is going to come down to preference and brand loyalty this time. Anyone else test driving these cars might have a different opinion so respect.

Car&Driver named the E450 the Number 1 best mid-sized luxury car and Best AWD car. The 5er comes in 5th place. It shows just how good the new E-Class is, as it covers many areas quite well.

Best Luxury Mid-Size Cars for 2024 and 2025, Tested (caranddriver.com)
 
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I recently went to my Mercedes dealer to test drive the top-dog E450 4Matic and it was not what I was expecting. This will be a quick review.

This time around at the dealership, unlike my Auto Show visit (which was a little rushed, especially on the second day) I spent some time with the new E-Class, as both a passenger and driver over a two-day visit.

I will start with the interior and conclude, that for a modern-day Mercedes, it takes the crown as having the best quality in the Mercedes sedan range. In my Auto Show experience, I said that the 5er was better, but after spending some quality time with the new E-Class, like I did test driving the new 5-Series, it is close IMO. Some small details are budget quality like the new 5er but it will not spoil the experience IMO.

The doors are a little heavy, sturdy feeling, and very well insulated. They also sound solid when closing. The dashboard and door storage area feel premium grade by today's luxury car standards.

This particular car had the wood panel without the super-screen- screen which I wanted to experience first hand and in real life it looks so much better than the super-screen IMO. Playing with the MBux is rather complex but once one gets the learning curve, everything falls into place quite easily. The 4D Burmester audio system is detailed and sounds great with the subs built into the seats. ** @klier my friend, I turned the Ambient lighting blue specifically for you since you did not like the pink in the AutoShow image**

In pictures and videos, this dashboard looks a little on the bulky side IMO. This is not the case IRL. I did not like this interior design at first but after spending time with it, I like it a lot, especially in this configuration. I like it better than the 5-Series, but that is just my personal opinion. It is oozing with personality, luxury, and overall detail characteristics that an opulent, detail-oriented individual would appreciate.

Driving impressions:

My first pull-off from the parking garage was surprising, to say the least!
In comfort mode, this car has a level of confidence and diving composure that simply wants you to drive it.

The steering has good feedback and feeling to it . The ride quality in comfort mode is supple and complaint to the road surfaces, even over railroad tracks and large bumps, it is tight as a drum and well controlled on damping inputs without being floaty.

I finally put it in sports mode after a while. The steering and suspension tighten up and the throttle becomes more responsive. (The differences in Sport vs Comfort in these newer Mercedes models is perceptible.) You can put all those thoughts about the new E450 being an “old man's luxury boat” aside. This car loves to be driven. I had it out for a long time, around town and on the freeway. In sport mode, the E450 shrinks around you and becomes BMW-like in its telepathic communication. This is a big, heavy car but the weight management is excellent, even at hi-speeds and passing situations, the E450 lets you know exactly what is going on with it. The communication factor is probably one element missing in the previous model and most likely any other E-Class. It is an amazing experience and a bit sporty feeling in composure. It reminds me of the previous generation 540I xDrive Sport Package.

The E450 is fast as well with great throttle inputs. The transmission shifts are smooth with good kick-down times.

The M256 is a strong work-horse of an engine and pulls quite hard when you need it to with zero turbo lag. With its 0-60 time of 4.4 seconds, you don`t need a V8 at all. At normal freeway cruising speeds you could take this car on a road trip with the greatest ease. One could drive this car for hrs on the motorway. There is nothing busy or fussy about its driving characteristics. My only small complaint was the brake pedal feel. There seemed to be a tiny delay on the initial brake bite to slow the car down. This particular vehicle only had like 7 miles on it so it is still very young.

I walked away impressed at the driving experience of this new E450. Mercedes has added an element of, dare I say, driver dynamics. If you are in for trading up on an older model E-Class, or S-Class I believe you are going to be impressed taking the E450 for a spin. I would recommend it for sure.

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My first day was a ride-along, I just happened to spot a pre-owned 2019 E63 sitting in the background.
This is my first time experiencing the AMG M177 V8 in its most edgy form in real life as a passenger. goddamn!! Is this thing mad-angry, loud, and just raw feeling. In race mode taking off on the freeway, it just roars like a lion and pins you in the seat with a massive amount of g-force with all the pops and bangs on the overrun.
Mercedes AMG needs to come up with G-force reduction seat technology. This thing pulls so damn hard, it's insane!
Several journalists were complaining about the ride quality. Sure it’s a bit on the firm side but it didn`t feel that bad in comfort mode, even over the same railroad tracks I experienced in the E450.
I can see why AMG customers want the V8 back. As good as the new E53 might be, it is not going to be a replacement for the V8 in an E63. The M177 is a jewel of an engine in the E63 package.
I like that they haven’t neutered the driving dynamics and characteristics of the E. Unlike your experience with the W213, I quite enjoyed my brief time with an E300 in 2017/8 and was quite amazed at how engaging that drive was. If this is as good as you say it is, I would be hard pressed not to get into one. Will surely have to try one out now.

I had also driven a 540i G30 in 2018 and it felt very edgy and not in a good way, almost like it was on some enhancing supplement and jittery. Wasn’t impressed.

I still have to test the new 5. I hope it’s a better driving experience.
 
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The new E450 is a very good drivers car. I built up some curiosity to go test drive its direct rival, this handsomely specced BMW 540i XDrive with its passive M-Sport suspension, and I was also impressed by it. (I am late in posting this but my test drive with the 540i was 3-days after the E450 4-Matic and my write-up was directly after driving the 540i when my impressions were fresh)
These cars are closely matched this time around. It is going to come down to personal preferences on which is going to suit your needs. Mercedes has come close to BMW with sporty dynamics and BMW has stepped into the luxury ring with Mercedes. There are some things that stand out for me personally so I made a short listing.

1. The E450 has superior steering feedback and the engine response seemed better.
2. The differences between the drive modes are more perceptible in the E450.
3. The ride quality is also better in the E450 with superior damping control. The 5er seems to have a twitching action, in that it moves around under you in moderate actions, yet it still feels a touch sportier than the E450.
4. The 5er seems to have slightly better seat comfort in the front. The rears go to the E450.
5. The 5er center stack with the gear selector finished in the piano black plastic feels cheap.
6. MBUX in the E-Class is a little more straightforward with less menu diving than I-Drive 8.5
7. The brakes upon initial bite is more linear in the 5er.
8. Stereo sounds better in the E450.

For me, the E450 checks more positive boxes than the 5er but the 5er is still a great car, and to me looks much better in person than in photos.
It is going to come down to preference and brand loyalty this time. Anyone else test driving these cars might have a different opinion so respect.

Car&Driver named the E450 the Number 1 best mid-sized luxury car and Best AWD car. The 5er comes in 5th place. It shows just how good the new E-Class is, as it covers many areas quite well.

Best Luxury Mid-Size Cars for 2024 and 2025, Tested (caranddriver.com)
How do you compare the interiors? I am leaning more towards BMW here (if slightly) but the layout and a more contemporary take on the lighting/ design have me intrigued.
 
The new E is one hell of a sedan. Lovely, Classy Mercedes as it should be.

For me after the W124 it went downhill besides the w211 which was such a well designed car , and now this one.

All the rest of them meh…

Can’t wait for the AMG, hope it’s proper with a V8!
 
I like that they haven’t neutered the driving dynamics and characteristics of the E. Unlike your experience with the W213, I quite enjoyed my brief time with an E300 in 2017/8 and was quite amazed at how engaging that drive was. If this is as good as you say it is, I would be hard pressed not to get into one. Will surely have to try one out now.

I had also driven a 540i G30 in 2018 and it felt very edgy and not in a good way, almost like it was on some enhancing supplement and jittery. Wasn’t impressed.

I still have to test the new 5. I hope it’s a better driving experience.

I actually have never driven a W213 E-Class. I just assumed that the new one is probably more dynamic because a lot of journalists said the W213 lacked a sporty feeling and just felt luxurious. The only W213 E-Class I have been in is the E63s and that was a ride-along, I was still blown away by it. I was invited to test drive that E63s days later, but it sold quickly. Aside from not driving the previous E-Class, I have been in a few of them and the new E-Class interior is miles better than the previous model. It almost feels like a higher-class vehicle this time with all the upgrades.
I might go take the previous E-Class for a test run just to compare it with the new one.
What I meant about the E450 feeling like the previous 540i was the BMW-like communication factor. I agree about the passive M suspension. The way it moves under you is not a confident feeling. I have a friend, a BMW owner, who I had taken with me when I drove the G30 540i and he also noticed that jittering feeling. If you didn`t like the previous model you are probably not going to like the way the new one drives.

How do you compare the interiors? I am leaning more towards BMW here (if slightly) but the layout and a more contemporary take on the lighting/ design have me intrigued.

Both are good this time in their own right and as I said, it's going to come down to brand loyalty and what you like. I personally like the E-Class much better. As I said in my writeup with the E450, it has a level of attention to detail like the metal speaker grills and metallic HVAC vents, and a few other items that a detail-oriented individual would appreciate. The 5er is a little more sporty feeling. It comes off better than most EVs for sure but the details are not there IMO. It is too minimalistic. It has the feeling that it could have come off a 3d print press with some BMW themes worked in. BMW was never good at interior details and exquisite interior features like Mercedes IMO. Sure the innovation is there but overall they are pretty damn cold feeling and lacking in originality. This is one of the reasons they don`t compete that well with top-dollar cars. That aside, the interior quality of the new 5er is very good. The E-Class is also very good this time.
 
I own a W213 and in my opinion it is a great car to drive, the car shrinks around you when you corner hard, it feels like a smaller car with excellent steering weight and feel and tight body control. I haven't yet cornered on a road to get the back to step out, but the front end doesn't go into understeer very easily, it's quite neutral in hard cornering on constant radius bends. In fact, it felt just as nimble and sharp as the smaller Volvo S60 T5 I owned earlier. I havent driven a BMW G30 5-series to compare, but I owned an E90 3-series and that car was probably a shade sharper than the Mercedes with its rear end moving out in cornering to reduce understeer, but the W213 has better steering and just as good body control.
 
6. MBUX in the E-Class is a little more straightforward with less menu diving than I-Drive 8.5
It's tragic how BMW went from having the most user intuitive infotainment to one of the most sub-heavy ones. No wonder Carplay and Android auto are popular.

I had also driven a 540i G30 in 2018 and it felt very edgy and not in a good way, almost like it was on some enhancing supplement and jittery. Wasn’t impressed.
The only G30 I have driven as a 530d with adaptive suspension. It was very smooth and smack in the middle between comfortable but without excessive body roll and sport but not too firm.
 

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