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[YoungWarrior]

So, why bother with expensive cermaic brakes when the standard brakes do the job more than perfectly.

because of fade

 

[Yperion]

EniLab: the main thing behind the ceramic brakes isn't accuracy, it is efficiency, remember it lasts longer and doesn't fade when heated compared to conventional brakes .... etc u know the rest

Well said. For track races Ceramic brakes are a must.

 

[EnI]

Well said. For track races Ceramic brakes are a must.

YES - For track races, but for a road car they are just an expensive & redundant add-on.

 

[YoungWarrior]

YES - For track races, but for a road car they are just an expensive & redundant add-on.

But then so is 500hp for a roadcar

Arent they usually optional though anyway?

 

[Yperion]

YES - For track races, but for a road car they are just an expensive & redundant add-on.

Turbos and AWD were pretty useless too according to BMW officials untill they were forced to use them both on their cars.

 

[Zafiro]

If I used my car for the track, ceramic brakes are a must but if I only drive on the streets the extra cost to get C B arent worth it.

 

[Yperion]

If I used my car for the track, ceramic brakes are a must but if I only drive on the streets the extra cost to get C B arent worth it.

I agree but a lot of people have several thousand grand burning in their pockets so for them 10k more for ceramic brakes are really no big deal.

 

[Zafiro]

I agree but a lot of people have several thousand grand burning in their pockets so for them 10k more for ceramic brakes are really no big deal.

thats great for them, not so great for me

 

[Imhotep Evil]

I think BMW should make CB at least optional. With Porsche and Audi, BMW must follow.

 

[Sunny]

The biggest advantage of ceramic breaks is not the stopping power or fade resistance - but the weight saving where it matters most - rotating unsuspensed mass.

 

[EnI]

Gerd Richter, technical director of the M division, explaining why M is not using ceramic discs:

"Ceramic discs are lighter, but they cannot absorb as much heat as cast-iron rotors. This diverts the temperature stress to the calipers, which subsequently need to go up in size and weight, so you lose some of the initial advantage while at the same time further increasing the cost deficit."




But sure- if someone really want the ceramics, they should offer them optionally. I agree.

 

[YoungWarrior]

The biggest advantage of ceramic breaks is not the stopping power or fade resistance - but the weight saving where it matters most - rotating unsuspensed mass.

that is arguable. as a car weighing less than a gnats ass wouldnt require big rotors at all but would still suffer from fade around a track.

 

[ALI]

Not bad for the E63 , it seems to have beaten the M5 clearly ..... in a comparizon that's usually not positive for MBs (0-100-0).....

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Not bad for the E63 , it seems to have beaten the M5 clearly ..... in a comparizon that's usually not positive for MBs (0-100-0).....

It wins on acceleration, but it loses on braking.
0.02 secs ain't exactly clear.
Usually the 0-100 is the turf of MB, due to superiour torque. Ofcourse the BMW S85 engine really comes alive at around 180 Km/h and is absolutely sublime at speeds of over 300 Km/h.

 

[dOmInIX]

4 Porsches in top 10! Congratulations Porsche!

 

[El Zorro]

The BMW M6 is really impressive indeed.
It has (one of) the shortest brake distances, and is 0.1s faster to 100 km/h than the Merc SL65 AMG, despite the latter has 105 HP more!
Porsche impressive as always Can somebody tell me what makes the Porsche 911 Turbo that much faster? Is it the gearbox, its weight, ...?

 

[dOmInIX]

AWD, 480 HP, Variable Turbo Geometry, Gearbox! And the fact that it is Porsche!

 

[Mr. Chigga_Chan]

Wow the new Turbo rocks!! Impressive peformance there, and we haven't even seena GT2. Also, props to the Gallardo!

 

[Sayyaaf]

Gerd Richter, technical director of the M division, explaining why M is not using ceramic discs:

"Ceramic discs are lighter, but they cannot absorb as much heat as cast-iron rotors. This diverts the temperature stress to the calipers, which subsequently need to go up in size and weight, so you lose some of the initial advantage while at the same time further increasing the cost deficit."




But sure- if someone really want the ceramics, they should offer them optionally. I agree.

EniLab: I heard Siemens is developing a revolutionary braking system, magnetic or something like that. Maybe BMW is waiting for such system ?

 

[EnI]

EniLab: I heard Siemens is developing a revolutionary braking system, magnetic or something like that. Maybe BMW is waiting for such system ?

Could be.

BMW are saving many revolutionary & other hi-tech features for the flagships: F01/2 7er & upcoming Mk2 Z8.

While F01/2 will be loaded with revolutionary electronic systems, Z8 will present revolutionary construction techniques & materials.

If that braking system tech will be production ready in a few years I'm sure we will see it in some upcoming BMW vehicle (M7 , Z8 / Z8 M perhaps?).