Quattro/S2 Audi unveils the legendary Quattro's successor at the 2013 IAA
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The original white one looks much better.
Sunny
Premium
Can some mod graft the last few posts from this thread http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/audi-quattro-concept.35384/page-16 to here to avoid duplication.
EnI
Piston Pioneer
The original Quattro Concept has much better looking rear end (more rectangular), while this one has better front IMHO.
Although, what's going on with illuminated quad coronas in the headlights? Ok, I get the "need" for quad projectors (the original Quattro concept had them as well). But the illuminated quad coronas???? Sorry, that's a bit too much of a BMW thing. Same case eg. with latest VW Golf where - according to some press reports - BMW were ready to sue VAG if quad coronas would had been used on Golf. VAG then fortunately decided to illuminate Golf's outer coronas only, and avoid the forthcoming legal clash with BMWAG.
Although, what's going on with illuminated quad coronas in the headlights? Ok, I get the "need" for quad projectors (the original Quattro concept had them as well). But the illuminated quad coronas???? Sorry, that's a bit too much of a BMW thing. Same case eg. with latest VW Golf where - according to some press reports - BMW were ready to sue VAG if quad coronas would had been used on Golf. VAG then fortunately decided to illuminate Golf's outer coronas only, and avoid the forthcoming legal clash with BMWAG.
Poverty
Oversteer Expert
Im so disappointed and let down. Again BS hybrid tech is ruining what would have been a genuine supercar.
When will car makers learn performance car guys dont want their vehicles laden down with heavy batteries????
We dont give a crap about emissions or MPG, if we did, we will buy a diesel, or a prius. These supercars will be weekend toys for most people anyway, so mpg and all that is soooooo irrelevant.
Alot of people where looking forward to this car, ready to put their names down for one, but now they have seen the weight, all interest is gone. Oh and the styling is crap.
Starting to fall out of love with Audi, their designs are boring, only the TTRS (OLD NOW) and the R8 I enjoy. The RS6 is cool for a old dude, but that 4.0V8 needs to go into something lighter and smaller. The new RS4/RS5 just suck, too heavy, too slow, too expensive.
Guess VAG enthusiats have MB now, they are doing a better job in realising what performance car drivers want with their AMG range, especially with the introduction of 4wd. Stealing alot of fast audi sales in the UK since they made the C63 and A45 AMG.
When will car makers learn performance car guys dont want their vehicles laden down with heavy batteries????
We dont give a crap about emissions or MPG, if we did, we will buy a diesel, or a prius. These supercars will be weekend toys for most people anyway, so mpg and all that is soooooo irrelevant.
Alot of people where looking forward to this car, ready to put their names down for one, but now they have seen the weight, all interest is gone. Oh and the styling is crap.
Starting to fall out of love with Audi, their designs are boring, only the TTRS (OLD NOW) and the R8 I enjoy. The RS6 is cool for a old dude, but that 4.0V8 needs to go into something lighter and smaller. The new RS4/RS5 just suck, too heavy, too slow, too expensive.
Guess VAG enthusiats have MB now, they are doing a better job in realising what performance car drivers want with their AMG range, especially with the introduction of 4wd. Stealing alot of fast audi sales in the UK since they made the C63 and A45 AMG.
emet
Schwarzwald Sprinter
It good looking, very good looking.. but I still like the 2010 concept better. Interior is weird in both of them..
And wtf with that mass? It shouldn't be more than 1500-1600kg. Oh and because of that V8 + electric motor it's going to be very nose-heavy (I would bet at least 56:44 front biased weight distribution...).
Overall I'm dissapointed...
I love Audi.. it's my favourite brand.. but when will they finally make a brand new platform with engine "above" the front axle.. not in front of it (for A4, A5, A6 etc.)? It's the only way.
And wtf with that mass? It shouldn't be more than 1500-1600kg. Oh and because of that V8 + electric motor it's going to be very nose-heavy (I would bet at least 56:44 front biased weight distribution...).
Overall I'm dissapointed...
I love Audi.. it's my favourite brand.. but when will they finally make a brand new platform with engine "above" the front axle.. not in front of it (for A4, A5, A6 etc.)? It's the only way.
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
Making the engine to be a V8 instead of an I5 and making it very heavy and therefore less sporty doesn't make it sound like the original Quattro, much less like the Sport Quattro. I mean, wow, wow, 1850kg dry... dat rally powah!
Anyway, I wonder where Audi is going with this. Because there isn't really a place on the market for whatever they make out the Quattro to be. The RS5 basically is the modern Quattro. And if by any chance it wasn't, then there is the TT RS below it and the R8 above it. Simply put, Audi already is making a bunch of cars that could be the modern Quattro, if they chose to present them as such. And if none of them are inspirational enough (and they aren't), then tough luck, because they will almost certainly never make a limited edition run of a completely new model. This is just fun for them.
And I certainly don't mind looking at new concept cars
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Well, generally...
Anyway, I wonder where Audi is going with this. Because there isn't really a place on the market for whatever they make out the Quattro to be. The RS5 basically is the modern Quattro. And if by any chance it wasn't, then there is the TT RS below it and the R8 above it. Simply put, Audi already is making a bunch of cars that could be the modern Quattro, if they chose to present them as such. And if none of them are inspirational enough (and they aren't), then tough luck, because they will almost certainly never make a limited edition run of a completely new model. This is just fun for them.
And I certainly don't mind looking at new concept cars
...Well, generally...
Tumbo
RPM Ruler
I agree. Plus, the worse thing are the BMW headlights. Words cannot explained how ashamed I am. I was complaining about the i8 having Audi shaped lights, but this is ridiculous.
And 1850kg!!! Wtf!!!???
D
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The photographs leave me patently underwhelmed. And a bit apprehensive with regard to the path Audi may be embarking upon in the future.
I am actually beginning to think that Audi is beginning to lose its' sparkle, despite the mega performance stats of its' 4.0 Biturbo V8 powered automobiles. Increasing cooperation between Porsche and Bentley, especially with regard to the upcoming MSB matrix, have me suspecting that Audi will be swept into the backround while Porsche and Bentley will capture the future VW-Group sport/luxo limelight.
I am actually beginning to think that Audi is beginning to lose its' sparkle, despite the mega performance stats of its' 4.0 Biturbo V8 powered automobiles. Increasing cooperation between Porsche and Bentley, especially with regard to the upcoming MSB matrix, have me suspecting that Audi will be swept into the backround while Porsche and Bentley will capture the future VW-Group sport/luxo limelight.
There so much about this car that I absolutely love, especially the drivetrain in it's entirety.... if only BMW had chosen a similar path for it's i8 instead of offering us a super green supercar with modest levels of performance but I can't praise Audi too much here because how ironic it is that Audi has for the pass several years constantly piped up about their goal to reducing the overall weight of their future model by up to 400kg that their most recent concept that points to the future of their performance models weighs in at a sizable 1850kg. 
mini_cooper4
Autotechnik Ace
Unlike you guys I think that the car looks good.
It's far worse than the '10 Concept but still good looking.
It surely doesn't look like a 700PS 1850kg. car...
The power and weight doesn't suit the design AT ALL!!!!
Now... what about the name!? What a friggin pig this car is... and they dare to call it Quattro!?
There are only 2 Audi cars that I appreciate A LOT - The original Quattro and the R8... all the rest I couldn't care less for and most of them I hate with passion.
This could have been one of the best cars ever... a lighter, more fun to drive GT-R... now I don't really know what it is
It's far worse than the '10 Concept but still good looking.
It surely doesn't look like a 700PS 1850kg. car...
The power and weight doesn't suit the design AT ALL!!!!
Now... what about the name!? What a friggin pig this car is... and they dare to call it Quattro!?
There are only 2 Audi cars that I appreciate A LOT - The original Quattro and the R8... all the rest I couldn't care less for and most of them I hate with passion.
This could have been one of the best cars ever... a lighter, more fun to drive GT-R... now I don't really know what it is
klier
Premium
I like it. 1300 kg would have been infinitely better even with 400 hp, but still, 700 hp at 1800 kg is crazy as well! Is this the new GTR?
Haha, I was thinking about that. Just see it as borrowing from eachother
they probably asked nicely
Haha, I was thinking about that. Just see it as borrowing from eachother
they probably asked nicely
"MarcinM
It is 600 kg heavier than the new La Ferrari, and 250 kg heavier than the 918, that says it all.
On the other hand it is 150 kg lighter than the RS6 on which it probably is based. It also has 150 bhp more than the RS6 yet it is only 0.2 seconds faster to 100 km/h. Also it has a better weight to power ratio than the Nissan GTR yet it is 1 second slower to 100 km/h. "
- The LaFerrari and 918 are 2-seat supercars with $700k+ price tags. This is a 4-seat GT with an est. $100k+ price tag.
- It is actually based on the A5 platform using the 4.0T from a slew of Audi products.
- The claimed 0-60 times are of course conservative manufacture estimates. Of course the 4,000lb, 700hp (5.7lbs/hp) Sport Quattro would be faster than 3.7 seconds 0-60 considering even 'just' a 4,600 lb 520hp (8.8 lbs/hp) S8 makes the run in 3.5 seconds. And the 3,600lb 550hp (6.5 lbs/hp) R8 V10 plus makes the run in 3.2 seconds. Low 3's or high 2's seem a given knowing how conservative Audi is with their performance figures.
It is 600 kg heavier than the new La Ferrari, and 250 kg heavier than the 918, that says it all.
On the other hand it is 150 kg lighter than the RS6 on which it probably is based. It also has 150 bhp more than the RS6 yet it is only 0.2 seconds faster to 100 km/h. Also it has a better weight to power ratio than the Nissan GTR yet it is 1 second slower to 100 km/h. "
- The LaFerrari and 918 are 2-seat supercars with $700k+ price tags. This is a 4-seat GT with an est. $100k+ price tag.
- It is actually based on the A5 platform using the 4.0T from a slew of Audi products.
- The claimed 0-60 times are of course conservative manufacture estimates. Of course the 4,000lb, 700hp (5.7lbs/hp) Sport Quattro would be faster than 3.7 seconds 0-60 considering even 'just' a 4,600 lb 520hp (8.8 lbs/hp) S8 makes the run in 3.5 seconds. And the 3,600lb 550hp (6.5 lbs/hp) R8 V10 plus makes the run in 3.2 seconds. Low 3's or high 2's seem a given knowing how conservative Audi is with their performance figures.
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