Valhalla Aston Martin Valhalla (a.k.a. Project 003)

[Tourbillon]

AWD, now that is appealing.

Ultimately Mclaren will follow. Lamborghini and Porsche already confirmed and Ferrari already have the individually exquisite SF90 with the "VS" nearly here. What a time to be alive!

 

[Centurion]

Basically a mid engined AMG GT 4door 63 e performance. It will not meet that target weight.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

They promise delivery mid-2024. Will this happen? No.

 

[Tourbillon]

They promise delivery mid-2024. Will this happen? No.

How long did Mercedes take with the AMG Project One? These are complex hypercars. And sophistication takes time. There's no carry over from previous generation architecture in this car unlike some hypercar manufacturers use and pass off as "cutting edge" or "state of the art". It's a clean sheet design.

The technical specifications have changed massively twice as well which people forget.

 

[Rolf]

This cars specs are virtually head to head on par with the AMG One and it leaves that car in the dust on looks. AMG must be thinking why we not used the 4.0ltr V8 an already in house engine it would have been on the market much earlier than the 1.6 V6 F1, when AM are using our engine now and look what they done!!!

 

[Centurion]

This cars specs are virtually head to head on par with the AMG One and it leaves that car in the dust on looks. AMG must be thinking why we not used the 4.0ltr V8 an already in house engine it would have been on the market much earlier than the 1.6 V6 F1, when AM are using our engine now and look what they done!!!

Interesting perspective. My take is that AMG got bored of being associated with a ubiquitous V8 and developed the AMG One in order to rub shoulders with Bugatti, Koenigsegg and Ferrari in the final chapter for ICE engines.

 

[KiwiRob]

Interesting perspective. My take is that AMG got bored of being associated with a ubiquitous V8 and developed the AMG One in order to rub shoulders with Bugatti, Koenigsegg and Ferrari in the final chapter for ICE engines.

Then they should have done it with a decent engine. I really wonder what the long term reliability will be like for a highly stressed 1.6 litre engine.

 

[Centurion]

Then they should have done it with a decent engine. I really wonder what the long term reliability will be like for a highly stressed 1.6 litre engine.

It will be poor but irrelevant as most AMG Ones will only do few Miles because of the rarity and high cabin noise.

I am looking forward to the Valhalla and hope that it will be ICE only with 730hp like the AMG black series.

 

[Bucketslash11]

Last year, Aston Martin said the Valhalla's drag-reduction-system-equipped active aero package would deliver about 1,322 pounds of downforce at 150 mph. That's a big number for any road-legal car, and Della Casa now projects it at more than 1,433 pounds.

why can't they just mention the downforce in kg?

 

[Tourbillon]

why can't they just mention the downforce in kg?

Because for whatever reason Americans it seems prefer lbs. It was written by Motortrend!

 

[Bucketslash11]

Because for whatever reason Americans it seems prefer lbs. It was written by Motortrend!

i know the basic conversion 1100lbs = 500kg/2200lbs = 1000kg but it's so annoying having convert it based around those metrics since
metric units have been the standardized unit for all scientific measurement (though i believe they use Kilonewton (Kn) for downforce)

just venting

 

[Tourbillon]

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[Centurion]

^^
Stunning. More so than the AMG-One. However I believe that the price will be a major let down.

 

[Tourbillon]

^^
Stunning. More so than the AMG-One. However I believe that the price will be a major let down.

How much was the McLaren Senna again? This is far more technologically sophisticated. Whether it's faster on the track, we will see in 2023/24.

 

[Centurion]

How much was the McLaren Senna again? This is far more technologically sophisticated. Whether it's faster on the track, we will see in 2023/24.

Just bear in mind that the SF90 is already reliably delivering the Valhallas target specs. You can walk into any Ferrari dealer and buy one at or below list price. Therefore it will be silly if Aston price the Valhalla at silly money in 23/24. By then, a hot version of the already insanely fast SF90 will be availabl.

 

[Tourbillon]

Just bear in mind that the SF90 is already reliably delivering the Valhallas target specs. You can walk into any Ferrari dealer and buy one at or below list price. Therefore it will be silly if Aston price the Valhalla at silly money in 23/24. By then, a hot version of the already insanely fast SF90 will be availabl.

Oh I'm aware of the forthcoming VS absolutely agree it's a stunning package even in base form as it were. I remember when it set the Indianapolis track record very well.

Thing is, everyone (not saying you!) is seemingly forgetting the new Lamborghini. They shouldn't.

 

[KiwiRob]

Just bear in mind that the SF90 is already reliably delivering the Valhallas target specs. You can walk into any Ferrari dealer and buy one at or below list price. Therefore it will be silly if Aston price the Valhalla at silly money in 23/24. By then, a hot version of the already insanely fast SF90 will be availabl.

i thought you had to be one of Ferraris special customers with a garage full of red to be allowed to buy an SF90?

 

[Tourbillon]

i thought you had to be one of Ferraris special customers with a garage full of red to be allowed to buy an SF90?

LOL no! It's a series production model. Not particularly special edition. And I can't remember exactly but I heard they've made thousands of them! Coupe plus convertible. Also there's always a healthy number available aftermarket and even more will be so when the VS gets here.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

LOL no! It's a series production model. Not particularly special edition. And I can't remember exactly but I heard they've made thousands of them! Coupe plus convertible. Also there's always a healthy number available aftermarket and even more will be so when the VS gets here.

There’s a lot more to it than just walking into a Ferrari dealer and asking to buy a SF90. Even the (high-end) production models are not fully available to regular folk aka first time buyers. All SF90 owners that I know of own at least one more Ferrari that isn’t older than two years. Plus l, all SF90 production is sold out already. That’s why they anticipated the 296 so quickly after.

 

[Tourbillon]

There’s a lot more to it than just walking into a Ferrari dealer and asking to buy a SF90. Even the (high-end) production models are not fully available to regular folk aka first time buyers. All SF90 owners that I know of own at least one more Ferrari that isn’t older than two years. Plus l, all SF90 production is sold out already. That’s why they anticipated the 296 so quickly after.

You are quite correct. But the aftermarket last I checked had a glut of them available too. At a cost ofcourse.