Vs AM&S: VW Jetta 2.0 FSI vs BMW 320i.

[Yperion]

First Place: VW Jetta 2.0 FSI



Second Place: BMW 320i

Source: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/94535

 

[EnI]

Have seen that.

The test is titled: "A duel of classes. Premium or regular?"
Of course Jetta won due to lower price (27.650€ vs. 22.825€) and bigger trunk.

What a stupid comparisson. What's next? A6 vs. Hyundai Sonata?

 

[Yperion]

Is the article saying that Jetta has as good handling as 3 series? My German are very bad...

 

[warot]

AMS just did another test with the Passat in it and it lost to the 3er. So is the Passat better than the 3er?

Let me guess. Jetta won because of price?

 

[Zafiro]

AMS just did another test with the Passat in it and it lost to the 3er. So is the Passat better than the 3er?

Let me guess. Jetta won because of price?

good package for the price

 

[Alx]

VW is on a ass kicking spree. TSX and now this!

 

[EnI]

Is the article saying that Jetta has as good handling as 3 series? My German are very bad...

It is saying Jetta is surprisingly agile and almost as good at handling as 3er. But 3er is still better and more precise. 3er also has much better brakes.

 

[Yperion]

Elastizität 80-120 km/h
im höchsten Gang
BMW - 18.5 s
VW - 13.7 s

VW's engine seems to be more effective.

 

[EnI]

VW's engine seems to be more effective.

Yeah, that's also mentioned in the article.
But who accelerates from 80-120 in the highest (6.) gear???? That data is so misleading! And btw, BMW engines use a high-rev concept. But that's even more surprising: BMW engine is more efficient (lower consumption) despite Jetta is featuring FSI engine! And 3er produces higher top speed.

Btw, article also claims Jetta's ride is more comfortable, but 3er has more comfortable seats. 3er interior is also more up class: better materials and fit&finish. Jetta produces high wind & road noises, 3er has much better brakes.

They say Jetta is more product for a money. Isn't that always a result in "premium vs. regular" duel???!!!

 

[Snake Vargas]

The differences in the 'effectiveness' of the engines and the lower fuel consumption/higher top speed seem to point to a difference in gearing (or the final drive ratio). Driveline comparisons rarely seem to take this into account. I dout it's so much to do with the engine itself.

Plus, top gear is usually an overdrive gear, especially on 6-speed transmissions. It probably means that BMW's engineers decided to make the gear ratio that much lower to increase fuel economy.

 

[EnI]

The differences in the 'effectiveness' of the engines and the lower fuel consumption/higher top speed seem to point to a difference in gearing (or the final drive ratio). Driveline comparisons rarely seem to take this into account. I dout it's so much to do with the engine itself.

Plus, top gear is usually an overdrive gear, especially on 6-speed transmissions. It probably means that BMW's engineers decided to make the gear ratio that much lower to increase fuel economy.

Snake, I second that.

 

[Mr. M]

I thought this would have been a walkover for the 3 Series. It is definitely a superior car compared to the Jetta. But in the real world, price matters I guess. But I know I will never buy a Jetta when my budget can get me a 3 Series or an A4.

 

[notic]

i've tried both and personally i'd take the 3. it accelerates, handles and brakes better than a lot of so called sports cars out there. rides a little bumpy, but i guess thats the compromise for superior handling. the plus for the jetta is that it comes with many features you wouldn't expect from a german car of that price. and yes, it does have a really really big trunk.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

OK, people, this comparo is CRAP. The 3er is by far the BEST. It was always THE BEST.
And, the Jetta, why on Earth would you buy an Jetta, or any VW for that matter, when you could buy a Skoda.
So if money is the matter, buy a Skoda, if not the bimmer.

 

[Yperion]

The Jetta is a very good car. You can get 95% of what the 3 series offers for 70% of the price and noone can argue that. Of course many people take into consideration the prestige that BMW name offers and i can't blame them.

 

[Zafiro]

The Jetta is a very good car. You can get 95% of what the 3 series offers for 70% of the price and noone can argue that. Of course many people take into consideration the prestige that BMW name offers and i can't blame them.

of course but the same goes for A4 and C-class.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

The Jetta is a very good car. You can get 95% of what the 3 series offers for 70% of the price and noone can argue that. Of course many people take into consideration the prestige that BMW name offers and i can't blame them.

Don't think so. Audi and MB can't offer 95% of a 3er, and no way in hell VW can so that.
VW might at best challange the A4 and C klasse, but not the 3er.
And anyway, I son't get it why you people would compare an overpriced people's car with premium brands.
Compare VW with Opels, Fords, Skodas, Seats, Hondas and so on, not with the likes of BMW and Co.

 

[Yperion]

Don't think so. Audi and MB can't offer 95% of a 3er, and no way in hell VW can so that.

What makes you say that? Before i bought my A4 i drove E46 BMW 3 series with the 2.0 lt engine and A4 1.8T was a lot more powerful, had better cabin, better equipment and more spaces inside and in the trunk.So for me actually Audi offered 110% of what BMW did for the same price.
Sure E90 is better than E46 but still it has it's advantages and disadvantages like any other car. I suggest that you read in he article how good the Jetta is and then comment.

 

[Mr. M]

Imhotep, I don't think you can get a Skoda Phaeton. VW and Skoda although strikingly similar does have some differences.

But I agree that the Jetta and 3 Series compete in different segments. The Jetta has going for it practicality, but it's halfway between 'premium' and 'common' automobile. It's quite hard to decide where it should be as it is the same case for the Passat, being halfway between the likes of the Accord and an A6.