Flying Spur 2019 Bentley Flying Spur Picture thread

[hoffmeister_fan]

Well I knew it would happen, the Mansory version:

Yes, for a Mansory, this is a relatively tame effort. It doesn't induce that sick feel in my stomach like their other fettered (fetid, perhaps?) creations.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

The new Flying Spur has become my favorite current Bentley. Its' position within the vast array of VAG model offerings is as exclusive as it is unassailable. Not that I find the Continental GTs' unexciting nor intending to compare apples and pears...however: With various Porsche 992 models now invading "Grand Touring" territory and rear seating arguably fulfilling more of an alibi function in this particular genre of automobile, I personally perceive a luxuriously appointed 992 Carrera 4S or Turbo/TurboS (whether in coupe or cabriolet form) as a legitimate alternative to the 2 door, 2+2 Bentleys. An alternative that I actually prefer.

 

[SCOTT27]

Unpimp ze Auto...

 

[J.E]

 

[Merc1]

A true beauty that wears any color well. My favorite luxury sedan hands down.

M

 

[JumppyJA]

 

[Merc1]

This is your shot right here. WOW. Is that a little Union Jack on the C-pillar? Perfection.

M

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

First Editions get that.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

The W/V223 S-Class thread is absolutely buzzing with activity.

THIS is what it will be up against:

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[Centurion]

There is no car on the horizon that will usurp the interior of this car.

 

[Serpens]

The W/V223 S-Class thread is absolutely buzzing with activi...

I have yet to have anyone in this forum explain to me why they think the S-class competes with the Flying Spur, a car that typically starts $100k more than a S-class. I really don't think the overlap in buyers is as big as people seem to think.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I have yet to have anyone in this forum explain to me wh...

Well, they could conceivably come in somewhat closer proximity to one another price-wise. A Flying Spur V8 and V6 PHEV will make the Bentley a good deal more accessable.

 

[Serpens]

Well, they could conceivably come in somewhat closer proxim...

I stand by my comment. Looking at the Bentayga, the hybrid nets you a ~$40k discount and the V8 less than that. If the same applies to Flying Spur, you're still looking at ~$170k which is equivalent to a very well optioned AMG S63. We know the bulk of S-class sales (speaking in the U.S.) are not AMG models. So yes it gets them somewhat closer in price proximity I'm still betting the overlap between customers is relatively small. And this is all to say nothing of insurance and maintenance costs if the customer is weary of that.

 

[Levi68]

I have yet to have anyone in this forum explain to me wh...

The same way most compare a 911 to every other supercar.

But then there is the BMW Crew vs. The World, legendary...

 

[cullinan395]

The Flying Spur, has fewer models and engines than the S-Class, in fact it currently has only one, but, in the future, I hope, that as it happened with the previous versions of both cars, there are several where they compete directly in price. The price of a W222 S65 was more expensive than a base Flying Spur W12. Surely the Maybach verisones, too, will swim in these same waters. After all, they do dispute that little market cake.

On the other hand there is the Ghost, a car that from the essence and the purpose should be a head-to-head competition with the Flying Spur, but, it is not, exclusively for its price premium that derives from the mere fact of being a Rolls Royce.

However, the one who pays 250 K for the Flying Spur, pays the same for an S class of that league or 340 K for a Ghost, it is a league where 100 K, are a mere matter of taste, now, in the United States Not measured in 100K, it's $ 1,500 or $ 2,000 more than monthly rent. It is unusual for someone to arrive with a 340K in hand to a dealer to buy a new Ghost. Maybe in the Middle East.

 

[Serpens]

The Flying Spur, has fewer models and engines than theS-Class, in fact it currently has only one, but, in the future, I hope, that as it happened with the previous versions of both cars, there are several where they compete directly in price. The price of aW222 S65 was more expensive than a base Flying Spur W12. Surely the Maybach verisones, too, will swim in these same waters. After all, they do dispute that little market cake.

The concept of cars overlapping in price at the top of the range for one car and the bottom for the other isn't specific to this class. Sure there are versions of the S-class that overlap with the Flying Spur, but we all know these models make up a small amount of the S-class sales and that is not the model line's main purpose. People who buy the Maybach S-class in places where it sells very well like China weren't about to buy a Flying Spur instead.

 

[SCOTT27]

Yes it certainly is perculiar how British and Italian flags can feature on cars and in some cases France or Sweden? But a German or US Flag? And you will hear the screeching across the world.

 

[advantage20]

Daimler needs to come up with a truly standalone Maybach model range in order to stand a chance against the exclusive image of Rolls-Royce and Bentley. A dolled up Mercedes-Maybach S-Class or GLS, as comfortable, well finished and technologically advanced as they may be, will always be perceived as one notch below the two British marques in the high-end luxury market. I suspect that the current Mercedes-Maybach models are just a stepping stone towards a range of fully standalone models, as previewed by the latest Maybach concept-cars. 3 standalone models will suffice: a large sedan, a large SUV, and a large 2 door coupé/cabriolet.

With its vast history of iconic models and a brand name that is worldwide synonymous with luxury and excellence, Mercedes surely cannot tolerate that its main rivals BMW (Rolls-Royce) and Audi (Bentley) eat the whole high-end luxury cake and certainly deserves its fair share... But the three-pointed star just isn't enough at this level, they need to fully emancipate and legitimize Maybach.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

3 models will suffice: a large sedan, a large SUV, and a large 2 door coupé/cabriolet.

Or with other words the same range like Bentley.

 

[advantage20]

Or with other words the same range like Bentle...

I'd guess Maybach could aim even higher, directly at Rolls-Royce, with a very large sedan to go up against the Phantom, a very large SUV to go up against the Cullinan, and possibly a super long-hooded 2 door coupé/cabriolet 'dream car' inspired by the pre-WWII era and the yacht universe, as previewed by the two Maybach 6 concepts (it was once rumored that Rolls-Royce was to release such a model, powered by a V16 engine... With the advent of the electric era it now becomes entirely plausible, see the Rolls-Royce 103EX concept). Again, given its lustrous history, there is no reason why Mercedes would let BMW (Rolls-Royce) reign alone over the high-end luxury market.

The smaller and lower tier Mercedes-Maybach models based on the regular models (S, GLS, next SL) could go up against Bentley (Flying Spur, Bentayga, Continental GT), or might eventually end up as part of the standalone Maybach range as well sometime in the future.