F1 2008 Malaysian GP

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I wouldn't think so, Kimi isn't going anywhere and Massa is sitting tight at Ferrari until the end of 2010.

I would be very surprised if Massa can hang around until 2010. He is managed by Todt's son. Todt has quietly left his post as Ferrari chief executive. Letting Massa go despite his contract would be another strong reminder that the Todt Era is over.

Like Matt said, a contract with Massa probably doesn't force Ferrari to do anything they don't want to. If he keeps spinning off the road, they should be able to give him the boot.
 
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guys, do u think this was a boring race? besides that ColdHeart-Heidfeld-Alonso moment, i think the race was pretty boring. considering that this track is really wide, seeing Hammi stuck behind a RB really reminds me of Kimi and Rubens in Aussie.
 
guys, do u think this was a boring race? besides that ColdHeart-Heidfeld-Alonso moment, i think the race was pretty boring. considering that this track is really wide, seeing Hammi stuck behind a RB really reminds me of Kimi and Rubens in Aussie.

It was one of those typically boring races when either Mclaren and Ferrari are up front distancing themselves from the rest while the other main competitor is stuck in the mix with hard headed drivers like Trulli and Coulthard.
 
The Malaysian GP Winners And Losers


Star of the Race
Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari 1st

Ferrari won the race on Saturday when the two McLarens were deducted five grid slots. The identity of which Ferrari would win the race was determined in just a couple of minutes on Sunday when Raikkonen, gulping up clean air like a born-again environmentalist, produced two outstandingly quick laps to trump Felipe Massa.

It wasascloseasthat, however, and Raikkonen may not have taken the lead had both drivers been stationary in the pits for the same amount of time (Massa never made it as far as the second pit-stop but he looked to have been given two laps' worth of fuel more than his team-mate). But the speed Raikkonen displayed after taking track position was jaw-droppingly quick - and was probably the reason why Massa then dropped his Ferrari off the track.


Overtaking Move Of The Race
Lap 1, Lewis Hamilton, McLaren

Hamilton went into the first corner side-by-side with Fernando Alonso and with a 50/50 possibility of being shunted off. Alonso doesn't give an inch at the best of times; after the worst of times at McLaren he wasn't giving Lewis a millimetre. So Hamilton simply ducked inside, taking advantage of the Trulli-Heidfeld tangle ahead, and emerged in fifth place - a gain of four positions in one corner.


The PF1 Forum's Overtaking Move Of The Race
The way Felipe managed to make the rear of his Ferrari overtake the front...


WINNERS


Ferrari
A great comeback but their pace should have made a 1-2 a formality.


BMW
A haul of eleven points represents their best-ever race in F1.


The Nation With Two Of Its Drivers On The Podium
Tis bloody strange that a country with a population of just five million and a landscape dominated by lakes and forests has been so prominent in F1's recent history.


The Reminder That There Are More Important Things To
Worry About In Life Than Formula One
From the press conference...

Q. There was champagne under the eye-lid there.
Raikkonen: "Yeah, we should put it in the mouth not in the eye. Things go wrong sometimes."


TV Coverage
The shame is that ITV are getting out just when they are getting good and anyone who believes that the BBC will automatically provide better coverage than ITV could be in for a rude awakening next year.

As in Australia, ITV's coverage was excellent this weekend, not least because they are willing to devote the sort of pre-event build-up that the BBC are notoriously unwilling/unable to provide for even the few major sporting occasions it is currently able to broadcast. Football fans, for instance, are regularly short-changed with an unfulfilling fifteen minutes of build-up for international matches.

In twelve months' time, the short inconvenience of adverts on ITV may seem a generous compromise in return for an extra hour of coverage.


Robert Kubica, BMW, 2nd
His best performance in F1 to date. Just don't describe this as a coming-of-age display as Robert is already the oldest-looking 23-year-old in the world.

Raikkonen had the hammer down for most of the race, particularly the first third, so Kubica's proximity to the Finn - a deficit of 19.5 seconds after 56 laps, you do the maths - at the chequered flag is worth dwelling on especially as Heikki Kovalainen, who had a trouble-free day in the McLaren, was a further 20 seconds behind. And the fact that Nick Heidfeld set the fastest lap of the race at a time when Hamilton was going flat out in an attempt to take fourth place from Jarno Trulli is further evidence that BMW had the beating of McLaren in a straight fight.

From a McLaren perspective, that disadvantage is, paradoxically, a cause of minor relief. Why? Because McLaren were considerably faster than BMW in Melbourne and, with no upgrades or testing available in between the back-to-back races, it can be concluded that the turnaround was primarily caused by a loss of performance on McLaren's behalf. In other words, they messed up rather than BMW closed in. The corollary is that, even if they will be wary of the threat, McLaren will be as cheered by Kubica's proximity to Raikkonen as much as BMW.


Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 3rd
Solid, but nothing more. Kovalainen's fastest lap was half-a-second slower than Lewis Hamilton's and finishing in front of the Englishman by ten seconds was a pretty ordinary performance considering Hamilton's woes.

Heikki was lucky in another respect: Had Nick Heidfeld not had his qualifying lap interrupted by the two dawdling McLarens then the German would have probably lined-up alongside Kubica and taken Kovalainen's podium.


Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 4th
Jarno didn't crack under pressure when he won in Monaco and he rebuffed Hamilton's late charge by setting his fastest lap of the race. Impressive.


Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 5th

Anyone who thinks that Hamilton should have done a better job behind Mark Webber should consider the remarks of Kimi Raikkonen in the press conference about the difficulty of racing in dirty air ("When he went into the pits my car got much better because when you are one or two seconds behind it is a massive difference"). And but for a botched pit-stop, Hamilton wouldn't have been behind Webber anyway.

Questions must also be asked of McLaren's decision to deploy Hamilton on soft tyres for two of his three stints. Only when on the harder option in the final third did Lewis finally set competitive times - including a lap time that was essentially the equal of Raikkonen's best.


Nick Heidfeld, BMW, 6th

Questions also tend to be asked when a driver sets the fastest lap of the race on the penultimate lap of the race. But it's also worth noting that Hamilton set his best time on lap 53, Jenson Button (who was actually fourth fastest in the fastest laps timesheets) on 56, Jarno on 53, DC on 55, Nico on 55 and so on and so on.

Conclusion: not only was this the time of the race when all the drivers had a near-empty fuel tank but also the track was most conducive to quick times. The shame is that Raikkonen didn't put his foot down in the final laps to reveal just how fast the Ferrari really was.


Mark Webber, Red Bull, 7th
Webber deserved seventh because he managed to keep Lewis Hamilton behind him for so long even though he knew that Hamilton would eventually finish the race ahead of him. In contrast, David Coulthard, in the sister Red Bull, couldn't keep Fernando Alonso behind him even when the Spaniard's Renault was fuelled to the brim.


Fernando Alonso, Renault 8th

Two Alonso-related stories are bound to appear in the coming weeks: The first that he is racing as well as ever, the second linking him with a move to Ferrari as a replacement for a certain under-performing Brazilian....


LOSERS



Felipe Massa, Ferrari, DNF
Under huge pressure to bounce back in Bahrain and convince the growing number of doubters that he can compete with Raikkonen without traction control.

Ferrari's non-discovery of any anomalies on their telemetry for Massa's car can be interpreted as confirmation that his race-ending spin was the result of driver error. It may not have been related to the absence of traction control, however. It's just as likely that it was the consequence of mental turmoil and an unstable union between the determination to keep pace with Raikkonen and the actual ability to do so.

In the press conference in which Massa was conspicuous by his absence, Kimi remarked that pulling away from the second Ferrari was "quite easy". That he made the remark without any obvious attempt to undermine his team-mate made it all the more damning.


McLaren
A pit-stop blunder, bad tyre choices, two undistinguished performances and a looming threat from BMW. Bahrain, where only Ferrari tested in the winter, will be a tough test and it will be a considerable surprise if McLaren are found to be closer to Ferrari than BMW in the desert.

Reminding their drivers to get off the racing line after qualifying might also be a good idea.


Renault
Alonso was over thirty seconds behind the Ferraris after ten laps. Even battering his team-mate won't satisfy the former World Champion for long unless Renault can make a significant upgrade soon.


The Value Of Eye-Witnesses
Nico reckons he was "alongside" Glock when they crashed. Timo reckons he was "hit from behind by Nico Rosberg".

The jury is still out on what unlikelihood will actually occur first: a drugs cheat in athletics fessing up to a fair cop or a F1 driver actually admitting he was at fault for causing a crash.

Planet F1.com
 
Well, my Ferrari pillow case streak is still intact. Last year just before the Fuji race I accidentally got a pillow case that very closely resembled the Mclaren colors. My friend came over to my house and noticed it. Of course, Hamilton won that one and had 10+ lead with two to go.

For the next two race weekends, I switched to a red and white striped pillow and Ferrari took the title. I forgot to use it for Oz, but I brought it out again for Malaysia. Now that I've made a post about it, it'll probably lose its effect, but I'll still use it.
 
Well, my Ferrari pillow case streak is still intact. Last year just before the Fuji race I accidentally got a pillow case that very closely resembled the Mclaren colors. My friend came over to my house and noticed it. Of course, Hamilton won that one and had 10+ lead with two to go.

For the next two race weekends, I switched to a red and white striped pillow and Ferrari took the title. I forgot to use it for Oz, but I brought it out again for Malaysia. Now that I've made a post about it, it'll probably lose its effect, but I'll still use it.



LoL :D
 
Just because Massa has a contract with Ferrari doesn't mean that they have to put him in their car. Some contracts in F1 guarantee the driver a seat, but not all. If Massa's contract doesn't have a guarantee, then they "bench" him or release him to sign with another team.

Worse case scenario for them is they have to pay him to sit around and do nothing. As an aside, if the budget cap comes in driver's salaries are exempt so they won't have to worry about paying three drivers if it comes to that.

You right but I can't see Alonso and Kimi living side by side, two champions in the same bathtub simply don't work. We all known how Alonso is, he's matador, unafraid, driven by success and does what ever he want. He speaks his mind and we've seen it trough out the years. The team says one thing and he tells the press something else, and from what went down at Mclaren last year he's not the type who likes in house competition. Neither will he fall back for anyone regardless if it's his teammate.

Ferrari is a utopia for anyone who value unity and good team spirit. For them it's all about the team and that what matters in Italy as well where they care about the drivers as much as Bernie cares for the Australian GP. There is no way that Ferrari or Italy would tolerate Alonso, unlike Kimi he takes up a lot of space. He's not a team player but a sole rider who cares about nothing else but victory. In the end I do believe that he should be at Ferrari, he would do wonders there but when he gets there is another questions. As it looks now him and Kimi can impossibly work together in harmony at Ferrari.

 
I totally agree, there is no way that Kimi and Alonso could be on the same team without the team suffering for it. Unlike Massa who gave up winning his home race to give Kimi the title, I couldn't see Alonso being so selfless.

I think it's much more likely that Vettle would replace Massa than Alonso. Red Bull isn't going to win any time soon so they're more likely to release him from his contract so he has a shot at winning.

I think Ferrari would go after Alonso if Kimi gets tired of racing in F1 in a couple of years. He's already said he believe Ferrari will be his last team and he won't stick around once he no longer enjoys himself. However, if it's more than two or three years, Alonso may not be a top pick because he'll be too "old".
 
On the contrary, I think Alonso and Kimi can exist in the same team, as long as the team treats them both like professionals and not get into the personal "bond" BS that some teams talk about with their drivers/employees.

The point about the Mclaren crew jumping up and down, hugging Anthony Hamilton when Lewis won a pole has been beaten to death. The pit crew clapped politely when Alonso won pole. This kind of favoritism matters in the workplace, whether you work at a coffee shop or drive an F1 car. There is a thread about Hamilton getting a $4 million Mclaren F1 LM if the takes the title this year. We'll wait to see if that offer extends to Heikki Kovalainen.

If Ferrari can avoid that sideshow, Fernando-Kimi or Kimi-Fernando can work.

I think Alonso got so peeved about "losing" to Hamilton because of the favoritism he perceived. I don't think he would get nearly as peeved if he lost to Kimi because it's not as though the Kimster is Ferrari's Favorite Son. I think Michael-Fernando wouldn't work for that reason. Just my two-cents.
 
Alonso got peeved cause he didn't get receive any favoritism that he thought he deserved for being 2 time world champion.
 
I agree with you guys. I can't see Alonso and Kimi on the same team. Alonso is a good driver, no doubt about that, but he is somewhat of a PR disaster. He mouths off without caring about his team and thinks WAY too much of himself. Kimi has had his bad PR days too, like stripper incident, but at least those are personal things and not an attack on his team. Anytime something goes wrong with FA, he starts bitching about his team and usually blames others. Kimi on the other hand just has a "sh!t happens" kind of attitude that doesn't make the rest of his team look bad.

Like I said, FA is a good driver, but he is a prick.
 
Like Matt said, Vettel is the most suitable candidate for a seat at Ferrari along side Kimi. He's young and promising, perfect apprentice who can be told to lay low while riding along side Kimi.

Alonso is indeed a PR disaster and he has been that ever since he was a Renault. Even now he's saying things which contradicts which what Briatore is telling the press. Kimi is the complete opposite and and is a short worded person, you rarely read any of his comments on matters.

Even at Ferrari the team won't bend over and spread their asses from him like they do at Renault. There's only one person who gets the royal treatment at Ferrari and that's Shumi.

There are a lot of promising drivers out there who have the capability of doing wonders in a top car and those are Rosberg, Hamilton, Kubica and Heidfeld, so if Alonso wants to win another WDC he better hurry up. The youngsters are getting better while he at the age of 27 will soon be beginning to see his driving skills decline, especially if he will be stuck at Renault for the next 2 years.
 

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