hovabongZA
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Which is BS, but I don’t know why you’d buy one and not get the M sport package."More of the same but uglier". That's classic.
Poll W167 GLE vs. G05 X5 (Photos)
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Exactly. What do they expect from large an SUV? An F1-bolid-like driving characteristics & performances?
Some of those "journalists" are pure idiots. The point is to compare within the segment, not the intersegement comparisons. Especially not comparing a large SUV with a sports car, or a GT sports coupe.
braaf
Stuttgart Specialist
Exactly. What do they expect from large an SUV? An F1-bolid-like driving characteristics & performances?
Some of those "journalists" are pure idiots. The point is to compare within the segment, not the intersegement comparisons. Especially not comparing a large SUV with a sports car, or a GT sports coupe.
"Best handling, but doesn't deliver anything like enough 911 magic". Agreed, especially this comment.
hovabongZA
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The X5 looks amazing in white. Really good looking SUV.
Mmmm interesting verdict. The Toaureg with air suspension looks like a good allrounder.
It is.
I know you log in every day in the hope I've posted my first review of my new X5, hovabongZA. Don't worry, it's coming soon. Just don't have the time right now. In the meantime, here are a few photos after it had a machine polish and its G-Techniq ceramic coating applied a few weeks ago...
The money shot..
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
Design
You will no doubt make your own mind up about the styling of these three, but to our collective eye, the classic design of the BMW X5 - which has been refined and reworked over its four generations - is sportier and more luxurious looking, though not without its ‘ummmm’ elements. The lower sections of the front bumper, for instance, are a bit of a mess, and the ever-growing grille mightn’t be to all tastes.
But the X5’s big glasshouse and sculpted metal work - accentuated with the M Sport pack fitted to our tester - combine to give it a substantial but not intimidating look.
Full written review of the video here:
Best Luxury SUV Australia: BMW X5 vs Mercedes GLE vs VW Touareg
Very nice looking car you have @Betty Swollocks, what colour is it? I saw a silver X5 when I was in South Africa last week and I really like the front design its much better looking than the previous model.It is.
I know you log in every day in the hope I've posted my first review of my new X5, hovabongZA. Don't worry, it's coming soon. Just don't have the time right now. In the meantime, here are a few photos after it had a machine polish and its G-Techniq ceramic coating applied a few weeks ago...
The money shot..
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hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
Conclusion from 3:37:02 - “Head says Q8, heart says X5”
Carbon Black. Classic BMW colour. In sunny weather it's actually a very dark blue.
I wonder which silver you saw, because it's not normally available on the current X5.
I actually thought your car colour was a dark blue (Monaco Blue like my old E90 3-series). When I think of it and look at the current X5 colour chart it probably was the Sunstone Metallic colour which I saw. At first glance I thought it was a silver finish as saw the car from a distance and the sun was quite strong that day.
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE450 vs. BMW X5 vs. Porsche Cayenne vs. Audi Q7
The luxury-SUV segment continues to evolve and grow into something that can handle more than the maze of the mall parking structure.
4th Place:
Mercedes-Benz GLE450
Highs: Macho on the outside, opulent on the inside.
Lows: Never a dynamic standout, pricey, infuriating infotainment system.
3rd Place:
Audi Q7
Highs: The king of content, the admiral of accommodations, bad at nothing.
Lows: Incredible bulk, underwhelming power, starting to look dated.
2nd Place:
BMW X5
Highs: Faster than Walt Flanagan's dog, one of BMW's best interior designs.
Lows: Handles kind of like a BMW without feeling like it does.
1st Place:
Porsche Cayenne
Highs: Power hits like a sockful of quarters, the uncontested handling champion.
Lows: Good luck finding this much plastic inside the BMW or Mercedes.
Mercedes-Benz GLE450 vs. BMW X5 vs. Porsche Cayenne vs. Audi Q7
hovabongZA
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BMW X5 v Mercedes-Benz GLE v Volkswagen Touareg 2019 Comparison
Link has a video: copy link into browser.
which wins, and why?
Brand may be all important at the top end of the market, but pragmatic buyers looking for the biggest bang for their sub-$100K buck should be racing towards the 2019 Volkswagen Touareg 190TDI Launch Edition in their droves.
It offers levels of comfort similar to those found in the GLE and a better, more laid-back ride than the sharply-sprung X5. Yes, the GLE offers more space and the option of a third row, but the Touareg counters with an impressive driveline, extensive standard features list and extra luxe touches that will reward the savvy buyer.
Cabin layout is preferable to both the X5 and the GLE, with a centre console which is the easiest to use – an important factor for drivers who jump in and out of their vehicles multiple times a day. And a longer five-year warranty goes some way to assuaging the question mark over the Volkswagen’s reliability.
https://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-x5-v-mercedes-benz-gle-class-v-volkswagen-touareg-2019-comparison-120597/
Link has a video: copy link into browser.
which wins, and why?
Brand may be all important at the top end of the market, but pragmatic buyers looking for the biggest bang for their sub-$100K buck should be racing towards the 2019 Volkswagen Touareg 190TDI Launch Edition in their droves.
It offers levels of comfort similar to those found in the GLE and a better, more laid-back ride than the sharply-sprung X5. Yes, the GLE offers more space and the option of a third row, but the Touareg counters with an impressive driveline, extensive standard features list and extra luxe touches that will reward the savvy buyer.
Cabin layout is preferable to both the X5 and the GLE, with a centre console which is the easiest to use – an important factor for drivers who jump in and out of their vehicles multiple times a day. And a longer five-year warranty goes some way to assuaging the question mark over the Volkswagen’s reliability.
https://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-x5-v-mercedes-benz-gle-class-v-volkswagen-touareg-2019-comparison-120597/
I watched this video and he seemed to prefer the way the Touareg drove, especially its ride comfort surprisingly was judged the best. And it was cheaper than the X5 and GLE.BMW X5 v Mercedes-Benz GLE v Volkswagen Touareg 2019 Comparison
Link has a video: copy link into browser.
which wins, and why?
Brand may be all important at the top end of the market, but pragmatic buyers looking for the biggest bang for their sub-$100K buck should be racing towards the 2019 Volks...
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
This is the 3rd comparison where the Touareg wins ...it’s really good.
braaf
Stuttgart Specialist
It really is a good SUV. Although probly not as special as the big 3 on the inside IMO. Especially the leather that the reviewers seem to love.
For me VW leather feels artificial and hard. But other than that it is a really good looking sensible vehicle.
But I think at the of the day in this segment brand snobbery wins the day.
hovabongZA
Tire Trailblazer
Brand snobbery does win , but I’d have a Tiguan over an X1 or GLA many times over that thing is really desirable.
hovabongZA
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2020 BMW X5 XDRIVE40I VS. MERCEDES-BENZ GLE450: LUXURY SUV RIVALRY CONTINUES
2nd place: 2020 X5 40i xLine
You can't fault BMW when it comes to its powertrain. The X5's 335-hp 3.0-liter turbo I-6 has nearly zero turbo lag, and the smooth eight-speed automatic shifts quickly. On the road, the 2019 BMW X5 rides comfortably, dispatching bumps almost as well as the Mercedes-Benz GLE450. The X5 is sure-footed on the road, but its disconnected nature makes it feel like you're behind the wheel of a robot. "Steering is quick and linear, but it doesn't provide the feel or feedback one would expect from a classic BMW," features editor Christian Seabaugh said. "It's missing that organic sensibility that the Mercedes somehow captures."
The well-built interior defines austerity and features another evolution of BMW's familiar horizontal-themed dash design. "BMW interiors are trapped in time like a mosquito in amber, but it's a very familiar and comfortable look," executive editor Mark Rechtin said. There's plenty of space in the second row for two passengers, making the X5 a great choice for family road trips. You'll also enjoy the crisp (and optional) Harman Kardon surround sound system a lot more on your drives thanks to the well-insulated interior and its minimal noise levels.
Although iDrive has received multiple updates, its learning curve remains. In typical German fashion, many functions are buried in submenus, and this partially negates the benefits of the responsive touchscreen. Wireless Apple CarPlay, which requires a yearly subscription fee after a year of ownership, didn't work smoothly and kept cutting out. Detroit editor Alisa Priddle complained that instead of embracing connectivity, BMW is fighting it by making it hard to pair your mobile devices with its vehicles.
On the driver assistance tech front, the X5's suite works as advertised except for the lane keeping assist, which gets jerky when steering assist and adaptive cruise control are off. Priddle found that it also struggles to read the side of the road when lane lines aren't present. Adaptive cruise control, on the other hand, works more naturally and "drives like a normal human being would when approaching obstacles and slowing traffic," Rechtin said. However, with everything engaged, the X5 won't let you take over as easily as other systems do during emergency situations.
As an all-around luxury SUV, everything about the 2019 BMW X5 seems predictable. There's no sense of occasion, and it goes down the road robotically. Sure, the powertrain is excellent and the interior materials are appropriate for the class and price, but as a whole, the X5 plays it way too safe.
1st Place: 2020 Mercedes-Benz AMG GLE450
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450 is exactly what you expect of a proper luxury SUV. Nearly all you see and touch inside the cabin feels substantial. The leather, the buttons, and pretty much everything else offer a satisfying level of tactility when you interact with the car. First- and second-row passengers have ample space, and the cabin's superior sound insulation versus the BMW X5's provides a luxuriously serene experience.
On the road, the GLE450 continues to rise above its rivals. For its size, it handles better than you'd expect, especially when equipped one of the two available air suspension options. It goes down the road in a predictable, controlled manner thanks to its excellent body control, superior chassis calibration, and communicative steering. Mercedes' 3.0-liter turbo I-6, which features a 48-volt mild hybrid system, provides plenty of power and easily moves the GLE450. With the belt starter generator assisting the engine, you get smooth power delivery and a wide torque band. The nine-speed automatic transmission shifts quickly and decisively. Even when you suddenly mat the accelerator to pass slow-moving traffic, the gearbox gives you the right gear and puts the engine in its powerband.
The GLE450 isn't perfect, however. MBUX, Mercedes' new infotainment system, got mixed reactions. "The infotainment touchpad might as well be a Rubik's Cube for its ease of use and intuitiveness," Detroit editor Alisa Priddle said. MotorTrend en Español managing editor Miguel Cortina declared that it was too hard to use because so many functions are buried in submenus. Even so, some staffers appreciated MBUX's voice controls and touchscreen controls, the latter of which is the most straightforward way to control the system.
Our GLE450 tester also lacked a number of driver assistance features, such as lane keeping assist and adaptive cruise control, both of which came with the BMW X5 at a lower price point. On other new Mercedes-Benz models we've tested, the automaker's lane keeping assist does a great job centering the vehicle; however, adaptive cruise control isn't very smooth when it slows the car down or accelerates to the same speed as traffic flows.
In the end, the 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE450 provided a superior driving experience in a superior package. The attention to detail is impeccable, and the materials chosen for the interior are appropriately luxurious. As a result, the GLE 450 exudes a truly premium aura. You see and feel where that extra $10,000 you spent went the moment you get in the vehicle. The GLE 450's better-balanced chassis makes it easy to drive, the spacious cabin provides everyday practicality, and the spiffy appointments add a level of panache and sophistication missing in the X5. For those reasons, the 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE450 takes the win.
X5/GLE numbers:
ACCELERATION TO MPH
0-30 1.7 sec 1.8 sec
0-40 2.5 2.9
0-50 3.6 4.1
0-60 5.0 5.6
0-70 6.6 7.3
0-80 8.4 9.6
0-90 10.7 12.1
0-100 — —
PASSING, 45-65 MPH 2.7 2.9
QUARTER MILE 13.6 sec @ 98.5 mph 14.2 sec @ 97.4 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 127 ft 115 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.81 g (avg) 0.83 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 27.3 sec @ 0.67 g (avg) 27.0 sec @ 0.69 g (avg)
TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1,500 rpm 1,400 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
BASE PRICE $61,695 $62,145
PRICE AS TESTED $73,980 $84,640
STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL Yes/Yes Yes/Yes
AIRBAGS 10: Dual front, f/r side, f/r curtain, front knee 7: Dual front, front side, f/r curtain, driver knee
BASIC WARRANTY 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
POWERTRAIN WARRANTY 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE 4 yrs/Unlimited miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
FUEL CAPACITY 21.9 gal 22.5 gal
https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/gle-class/2020/2020-bmw-x5-xdrive40i-vs-mercedes-benz-gle450-luxury-suv-comparison/amp/
2nd place: 2020 X5 40i xLine
You can't fault BMW when it comes to its powertrain. The X5's 335-hp 3.0-liter turbo I-6 has nearly zero turbo lag, and the smooth eight-speed automatic shifts quickly. On the road, the 2019 BMW X5 rides comfortably, dispatching bumps almost as well as the Mercedes-Benz GLE450. The X5 is sure-footed on the road, but its disconnected nature makes it feel like you're behind the wheel of a robot. "Steering is quick and linear, but it doesn't provide the feel or feedback one would expect from a classic BMW," features editor Christian Seabaugh said. "It's missing that organic sensibility that the Mercedes somehow captures."
The well-built interior defines austerity and features another evolution of BMW's familiar horizontal-themed dash design. "BMW interiors are trapped in time like a mosquito in amber, but it's a very familiar and comfortable look," executive editor Mark Rechtin said. There's plenty of space in the second row for two passengers, making the X5 a great choice for family road trips. You'll also enjoy the crisp (and optional) Harman Kardon surround sound system a lot more on your drives thanks to the well-insulated interior and its minimal noise levels.
Although iDrive has received multiple updates, its learning curve remains. In typical German fashion, many functions are buried in submenus, and this partially negates the benefits of the responsive touchscreen. Wireless Apple CarPlay, which requires a yearly subscription fee after a year of ownership, didn't work smoothly and kept cutting out. Detroit editor Alisa Priddle complained that instead of embracing connectivity, BMW is fighting it by making it hard to pair your mobile devices with its vehicles.
On the driver assistance tech front, the X5's suite works as advertised except for the lane keeping assist, which gets jerky when steering assist and adaptive cruise control are off. Priddle found that it also struggles to read the side of the road when lane lines aren't present. Adaptive cruise control, on the other hand, works more naturally and "drives like a normal human being would when approaching obstacles and slowing traffic," Rechtin said. However, with everything engaged, the X5 won't let you take over as easily as other systems do during emergency situations.
As an all-around luxury SUV, everything about the 2019 BMW X5 seems predictable. There's no sense of occasion, and it goes down the road robotically. Sure, the powertrain is excellent and the interior materials are appropriate for the class and price, but as a whole, the X5 plays it way too safe.
1st Place: 2020 Mercedes-Benz AMG GLE450
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450 is exactly what you expect of a proper luxury SUV. Nearly all you see and touch inside the cabin feels substantial. The leather, the buttons, and pretty much everything else offer a satisfying level of tactility when you interact with the car. First- and second-row passengers have ample space, and the cabin's superior sound insulation versus the BMW X5's provides a luxuriously serene experience.
On the road, the GLE450 continues to rise above its rivals. For its size, it handles better than you'd expect, especially when equipped one of the two available air suspension options. It goes down the road in a predictable, controlled manner thanks to its excellent body control, superior chassis calibration, and communicative steering. Mercedes' 3.0-liter turbo I-6, which features a 48-volt mild hybrid system, provides plenty of power and easily moves the GLE450. With the belt starter generator assisting the engine, you get smooth power delivery and a wide torque band. The nine-speed automatic transmission shifts quickly and decisively. Even when you suddenly mat the accelerator to pass slow-moving traffic, the gearbox gives you the right gear and puts the engine in its powerband.
The GLE450 isn't perfect, however. MBUX, Mercedes' new infotainment system, got mixed reactions. "The infotainment touchpad might as well be a Rubik's Cube for its ease of use and intuitiveness," Detroit editor Alisa Priddle said. MotorTrend en Español managing editor Miguel Cortina declared that it was too hard to use because so many functions are buried in submenus. Even so, some staffers appreciated MBUX's voice controls and touchscreen controls, the latter of which is the most straightforward way to control the system.
Our GLE450 tester also lacked a number of driver assistance features, such as lane keeping assist and adaptive cruise control, both of which came with the BMW X5 at a lower price point. On other new Mercedes-Benz models we've tested, the automaker's lane keeping assist does a great job centering the vehicle; however, adaptive cruise control isn't very smooth when it slows the car down or accelerates to the same speed as traffic flows.
In the end, the 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE450 provided a superior driving experience in a superior package. The attention to detail is impeccable, and the materials chosen for the interior are appropriately luxurious. As a result, the GLE 450 exudes a truly premium aura. You see and feel where that extra $10,000 you spent went the moment you get in the vehicle. The GLE 450's better-balanced chassis makes it easy to drive, the spacious cabin provides everyday practicality, and the spiffy appointments add a level of panache and sophistication missing in the X5. For those reasons, the 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE450 takes the win.
X5/GLE numbers:
ACCELERATION TO MPH
0-30 1.7 sec 1.8 sec
0-40 2.5 2.9
0-50 3.6 4.1
0-60 5.0 5.6
0-70 6.6 7.3
0-80 8.4 9.6
0-90 10.7 12.1
0-100 — —
PASSING, 45-65 MPH 2.7 2.9
QUARTER MILE 13.6 sec @ 98.5 mph 14.2 sec @ 97.4 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 127 ft 115 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.81 g (avg) 0.83 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 27.3 sec @ 0.67 g (avg) 27.0 sec @ 0.69 g (avg)
TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1,500 rpm 1,400 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
BASE PRICE $61,695 $62,145
PRICE AS TESTED $73,980 $84,640
STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL Yes/Yes Yes/Yes
AIRBAGS 10: Dual front, f/r side, f/r curtain, front knee 7: Dual front, front side, f/r curtain, driver knee
BASIC WARRANTY 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
POWERTRAIN WARRANTY 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE 4 yrs/Unlimited miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
FUEL CAPACITY 21.9 gal 22.5 gal
https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/gle-class/2020/2020-bmw-x5-xdrive40i-vs-mercedes-benz-gle450-luxury-suv-comparison/amp/
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