The MYTH about the Audi A4 B8's interior quality...


Thanks for taking the time to have a look at this thread guys. If you’re looking at the pictures on a large high res screen it helps.

@ The Artist – Yes MB really has put a lot of effort into interior quality, and I don’t believe they have received the credit they deserve. These pictures don’t lie. The level of attention to detail in the Mercedes trumps the Audi. Easily. If only more motoring jurnos paid more attention.

@ Wimmer – I would have to disagree with you. While the Audi looks very high quality in photos, I would describe it as being solidly average in person.

My uncle does have an IS Lexus and I would rate it on par or slightly above the Audi. It certainly has a very ‘japanese’ feel to the assembly and plastics, but it feels more solid/dense. Also the leather is more supple. The layout leaves something to be desired though.

As for the Q5, I believe it would fall into the same boat as the A4 for me. They are almost identical interiors, and while it looks good in photos, something is definitely lacking in person.

@ Martin – Thanks for the kudos. What is your take on the C and A4’s interior? You seem very brand neutral and always make good observations. I rarely disagree with a post from you.

@ Giannis – I feel the 3’s interior has dated in terms of design. The colour combination in these pictures does the 3-er no favours however. The pastics to me feel higher in quality then the Audi, but the Audi seems to have a better general fit. It also appears to lack the attention to detail shown in the Benz. But this was a pre facelift model, and I’m sure things would be much improved in the update.

Even though my aunt has a 3, and I have spent some time driving it, I feel it would be unfair to view the 3 as critically as the Benz or Audi now that a FL is out. Nevertheless my 1 series is going to the dealer on Monday for some warranty work; The locking mechanism or module or something is playing up, and I’m hoping they give me a loan FL 3 for the day.

@ Just Anothny – Thanks mate. Yes I believe if the jurnos paid more attention to detail on the little things the Audi myth would soon be abolished. Audi would have to bring back the legendary finish and attention to detail of the older models.

Right on. The Mercedes to me also is best in class for the time being.

I’ll say it again. People should not make a judgment based on press photos, magazine shots and a brief encounter on the dealer floor. If you really want to gauge quality of fit and finish and attention to detail, you need to spend some time in the cars.

@ Amo – The interior lighting on both cars is satisfactory, though nothing outstanding. Some would love the red glow that washes over the Audi central console and transmission tunnel (two red Led’s located in the rear view mirror) but I prefer the orange hue of the Benz lights. I didn’t take any night interior shots of the A4 or C, but I would give a slight edge to the Benz. Again a small detail, but the LED hidden behind the opening handle of the benz appears to create a nice thin line that runs the lennght of the handle, whereas in the audi it’s just a soft glow. I hope you understand this poor explanation. But neither is remarkable in this respect.

One thing I have noticed in BMW’s, and this was the case in the 3-er loan car and our X5, but the overhead switchgear does not light up. I find this absolutely astounding and it drives me crazy. You are literally stabbing in the dark to hit the interior lighting buttons up there and hope you get the right one. At least the SOS button is bright as can be I guess. The MB and Audi buttons are nicely illuminated.

As for the 7 and S. Now to properly compare the two I think you would really need to spend quite an extensive amount of time with both to discover all the surprises and delights that have been built into these two premium products. A definitive conclusion most definitely couldn’t be reached with a brief encounter and looking at press material and magazine photos.

A FL S is also on the horizon.

@ BMER – Yes I agree 100%. The buttons on the new A4 feel cheap (hard shiny black plastic) and lack the soft touch and tactility of the buttons in the older B7. The B7 also felt much more solid. I would say the B7 and the new C are quite comparable, but the C is a bit glitzier with its chrome highlights, more modern layout and slithly superior panel fit. For this class, the B7 was really a lesson in interior quality for MB and BMW.

@ Tarek – Thanks mate!

@ Kovachian. Yes I probably do need some sort of help lol.

@ Yannis. Fair enough. We all have our preferences and look at different things.

But on a serious note, it has ANNOYED me to no end the way the A4 interior has been praised the and C-class knocked. So I though’t I’d just post a few direct comparisons and observations I made during my time of A4 ownership. Yes Audi did once make class benchmark interiors. But they have dropped the ball and MB and BMW have lifted their game considerably.
 
Good write up my friend and great attention to detail!

But you have to remember your comparing a standard 1.8t A4 to a much classier C class, and the A4 doesn't have the MMi system so instead of having all the button around the stick, you just have plastic (more the reason to get the MMi:D)

I sat in the 1.8t and then went into a 3.2 not long ago and the quality difference is huge!:D

Anyway I think I prefer the Audi interior much more modern (please don't hurt me for saying that:D)


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Edit: The 3-er interior looks terrible dated and terribly BORING!
 
Good write up my friend and great attention to detail!

But you have to remember your comparing a standard 1.8t A4 to a much classier C class, and the A4 doesn't have the MMi system so instead of having all the button around the stick, you just have plastic (more the reason to get the MMi:D)

I sat in the 1.8t and then went into a 3.2 not long ago and the quality difference is huge!:D

Anyway I think I prefer the Audi interior much more modern (please don't hurt me for saying that:D)


:t-cheers:


Edit: The 3-er interior looks terrible dated and terribly BORING!

How would I hurt you? Thank your lucky stars you are on the other side of the world.... ;):D

The A4 would improve considerably with certain options and trims. But I don't think that would have much bearing on the overall quality of the plastics, feel of the switchgear, solidity of the build, panel fit etc.
 
How would I hurt you? Thank your lucky stars you are on the other side of the world.... ;):D

The A4 would improve considerably with certain options and trims. But I don't think that would have much bearing on the overall quality of the plastics, feel of the switchgear, solidity of the build, panel fit etc.

Well you never know, I might be going back over to Australia to watch the cricket:D See you there Buddy:D

Back on subject next time I'm in a A4 I will have a good inspection at every little aspect of the interior:usa7uh:

Couple of days ago I went for a ride in my friends dads Allroad and the interior didn't actually feel as solid as my A6 (gone now)

Maybe Audi have cut back on interior costs to save money:eusa_thin
 
Sadly, I couldn't give Karma. I do have to spread some reputation in order to give you some (good) Karma Mr. Mercedes.

But I thanked you for the excellent analysis. One picture that shocked me was this:

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So many overlaps and I can see the glue sticking out!
 
Nice work but i still prefer the interior of the A4. For example the instrument panel of the C class looks cheap IMO. It's time they remove that useless analogue clock.

Dear old friend:D,he wasn't comparing the looks but materials used and fit/finish of the interior:usa7uh::t-cheers:
 
Ι have seen both the A4 the new C class and sat inside them in the Athens autoshow last year. The A4 for me is clearly better in overall quality although some of the silver plastics could had been better.

The only way for C class to win is to compare a base A4 with cloth seats with an upscale C class with wood , leather ect. that costs several thousand euro more. If we compare similarly priced models , A4 still has the edge.
 
^Well u are just being biased Yannis;):D

It's very clear from the pics,the two similarly equipped models shows how superior C's interior is:usa7uh:
 
I think what Yannis is trying to say is that he finds the A4 interior to be the best looking; Fair enough. But a closer and more detailed inspection reveals the C-Class has the best built interior.

I must say that at first I couldn't find anything wrong with the A4 interior, but thanks to Mr. Mercedes excellent analysis, now I can.
 
Regarding new A4 I wasn't thrilled either, more plastic compare to previous A4 and the car somehow felt cheaper is what I experienced. In fact not better than my dad's E90.

Regarding C-class, it was long time ago I sat inside so I dont recall what I felt about the car back then. All remember is that I didnt like the interior design. I guess I need to visit my MB dealer again.

I'm just back from my dad's 325i E90, the interior is solid and well-built.
All the "black plastic" could be softer though. The quality between facelift and prefacelift E90 isnt gigantic, new buttons with chrome etc and some small details is what makes the facelift more fresh and up-to-date than the prefacelift.

All in all, all three germans are of high standard and they all feel well-built. However, interior quality do not decide which car I buy in the end, for me its the overall package.

Also I would like to add, you cant judge a car based on photos, you need to experience it in real life.
 
Very honest analysis. No matter how attractive the B8 A4/A5 interior is, it's a major step back from the B7 which had quality on the same level as the new C-class.
 
I think what Yannis is trying to say is that he finds the A4 interior to be the best looking; Fair enough. But a closer and more detailed inspection reveals the C-Class has the best built interior.

I must say that at first I couldn't find anything wrong with the A4 interior, but thanks to Mr. Mercedes excellent analysis, now I can.

I know he meant in terms of looks that why i said the C has better materials and fit/finish:usa7uh:
 
I think we're almost on completely the same page Raoul apart from one point. I think:
* Audi dash and door material looks good, actually feels light and foamy and marks easily (fingerprints and smudges).
* Mercedes dash material has a little bit too much of a 'sheen,' but feels solid and nicely textured and marks less easily.

I didn't notice for the mark-sensitive Audi. But the dash material looks better than in the W204, who is like you said a bit too shiny and also, the texture is not as refined as in the Audi. But it does feel very solid and reassuring.

We once had a B5 A4 in the family (2.5 V6 TDI Quattro, beige leather, light wood). My God, what an interior... It was just gorgeous. Absolutely mind-blowing. Once you were inside, you didn't want to leave it... A masterpiece. Unfortunately, the rest didn't follow: Quattro problems, turbo and airflow-sensor broken, the car was slow as hell (no turbo) and smoked more than an airplane.
But the interior, wow...The delicate wood all along the interior, the splendid leather, the soft plastics everywhere, the expensive touch of the buttons, the super-easy gearbox... Fit and finish were perfect, bar the handles who were peeling at some places.

No car in the category could come even close to a B5/B6/B7 Audi. :bowdown: Even the excellent e46 was beaten in this respect. And the W203... no comparison.

The W204 has an even better "quality-feel", no peeling plastics, and the same fit and finish. However, the dash material is not on par with these old Audis. The e90 is a bit disappointing (lots of black, hard plastic bits, some fit imperfections), and the B8 is now the worse of the category.

I think that the Audi-finish is now inferior because they spend more money on other areas of the car. The B5-7 were praised for their interior, but critcized for everything else, and especially the handling. Audi doesn't have sub-par drivetrains any more, but has lost the edge in the finish and interior...
 
Karma given! Great post dude, I only see this thread just now :(
If only you had put a facelifted 3er in the comparison, and it would have been perfect.

IMO, the A4 could VERY WELL have been a VW. The quality is about equal. The Benz definitely gets my vote here. Ever though I am not a huge fan of the styling, the quality is good.
 
IMO, the A4 could VERY WELL have been a VW.

Lol that is hilarious, the difference in quality is night and day. Latest VWs like the Passat , the Scirocco and the Tiguan are very mediocre.

PS. I was reading the Greek Autobild today and they said that Q5 has the best quality in it's class like the A4. They give a 19 out of 20 for quality impression.

They have said the same in their A4 vs 3 series comparison...

autobild.gr

They say that A4 has a more luxurious interior and the materials are soft and remind of an upper class car , while 3 series inside is plain.
 
Well thing is, journos only give a quick stare to the interior, ok looks good, and then they move on to measure the length of the glovebox and the size of the boot handle...
They are used to say "Audi's the benchmark", and will say that long after this is not true any more. They they will start to realize it's not true, say it's crap, and will go on saying it's crap long after they have recovered...

I remember seeing many reviews saying the W203 has an outstanding finish...false.
Now many say the W204 has a bad finish...false.

They always are a train too late...
 
They say that A4 has a more luxurious interior and the materials are soft and remind of an upper class car , while 3 series inside is plain.

That's actually not the case. Pretty much all the plastic on the center console is hard and doesn't have the soft and rubbery feeling like the B7. The plastic feel sort of like my computer keyboard and feels slightly hollow.
 

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