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No more free charging.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tesla-halt-free-charging-new-customers
Tesla to halt free charging for new customers
After 1 January 2017, new Tesla owners will no longer get unlimited use of Tesla’s supercharging network
Owners of new Tesla vehicles will instead get a supply of roughly 1000 miles’ worth of free supercharging credits per year, although existing owners will still get the same supply as they previously did.
Tesla will now charge owners a “small fee” to use a Tesla supercharger, which, the car maker claims, will continue to cost less than filling a car with an internal combustion engine. The price Tesla charges to use its network will not be fixed, so will depend on the cost of energy at that time.
The electric car brand claims that the supercharger is the world’s fastest charging station, and can provide “up to 170 miles of range in as little as 30 minutes."
Tesla has not released any more details on the updates to its free charging scheme, although does hasten to add that any new Teslas ordered before 1 January will not be affected, provided that delivery happens before April.
Cars which arrive after this will have to pay to use the supercharger network, which comprises 734 stations and 4605 individual chargers, according to Tesla’s website.
The company also revealed its solar roof recently, so it’s thought that this change in strategy may be an attempt to get drivers to adopt Teslas which charge on solar power. Tesla’s wall connector for home charging costs UK users £398 for a system with a 2.5m cable, and £438 with a 7.5m cable. The system can charge at up to 1.65kW - the equivalent to 51 miles of range in one hour.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk also recently revealed that the Model S P100D – the company’s highest-performance model with a 0-60mph time of 2.5sec – would soon get a performance upgrade.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tesla-halt-free-charging-new-customers
Tesla to halt free charging for new customers
After 1 January 2017, new Tesla owners will no longer get unlimited use of Tesla’s supercharging network
Owners of new Tesla vehicles will instead get a supply of roughly 1000 miles’ worth of free supercharging credits per year, although existing owners will still get the same supply as they previously did.
Tesla will now charge owners a “small fee” to use a Tesla supercharger, which, the car maker claims, will continue to cost less than filling a car with an internal combustion engine. The price Tesla charges to use its network will not be fixed, so will depend on the cost of energy at that time.
The electric car brand claims that the supercharger is the world’s fastest charging station, and can provide “up to 170 miles of range in as little as 30 minutes."
Tesla has not released any more details on the updates to its free charging scheme, although does hasten to add that any new Teslas ordered before 1 January will not be affected, provided that delivery happens before April.
Cars which arrive after this will have to pay to use the supercharger network, which comprises 734 stations and 4605 individual chargers, according to Tesla’s website.
The company also revealed its solar roof recently, so it’s thought that this change in strategy may be an attempt to get drivers to adopt Teslas which charge on solar power. Tesla’s wall connector for home charging costs UK users £398 for a system with a 2.5m cable, and £438 with a 7.5m cable. The system can charge at up to 1.65kW - the equivalent to 51 miles of range in one hour.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk also recently revealed that the Model S P100D – the company’s highest-performance model with a 0-60mph time of 2.5sec – would soon get a performance upgrade.
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But, but, but....
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Looks like Elon is well on his way to executing the first part of the Master Plan II.
Tesla’s Acquisition of SolarCity Receives Shareholder Approval
The Tesla Team November 17, 2016
Tesla’s shareholders have overwhelmingly approved our acquisition of SolarCity. Excluding the votes of Elon and other affiliated shareholders, more than 85% of shares voted were cast in favor of the acquisition. With SolarCity’s shareholders also having approved the acquisition, the transaction will be completed in the coming days.
We would like to thank our shareholders for continuing to support our vision for the future. We look forward to showing the world what Tesla and SolarCity can achieve together.
Tesla’s Acquisition of SolarCity Receives Shareholder Approval
The Tesla Team November 17, 2016
Tesla’s shareholders have overwhelmingly approved our acquisition of SolarCity. Excluding the votes of Elon and other affiliated shareholders, more than 85% of shares voted were cast in favor of the acquisition. With SolarCity’s shareholders also having approved the acquisition, the transaction will be completed in the coming days.
We would like to thank our shareholders for continuing to support our vision for the future. We look forward to showing the world what Tesla and SolarCity can achieve together.
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As far as solar city and Tesla goes: both firms will be called Tesla by next year. Solar city will become Tesla power (not too sure on the name).
interesting thing is that hardware wise Tesla is lagging behind the Germans in sensors and capability. But with the software (and bigger balls to let people drive in beta test mode) Tesla makes full Autopilot possible. I wonder when the Germans will use their excellent hardware and activate their autopilots.
As far as solar city and Tesla goes: both firms will be called Tesla by next year. Solar city will become Tesla power (not too sure on the name).
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Even assuming your assertion is true, that is like saying "I have a bigger hammer, when will I make a better omelette?"
Hardware is not the bottleneck on the path to self driving cars, software and of course the cook himself is.
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@Monster , you may find this article helpful:
Tesla's Powerwall 2 can pay for itself in six years, then its electricity is free
http://www.afr.com/technology/tesla...-then-its-electricity-is-free-20161124-gsx6vv
Tesla's Powerwall 2 can pay for itself in six years, then its electricity is free
http://www.afr.com/technology/tesla...-then-its-electricity-is-free-20161124-gsx6vv
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Some interesting tidbits from Elon's twitter feed this week:
FYI:
Tesla V1 supercharger output: 120 kW
Tesla V2 supercharger output: 130 kW - 145 kW
Tesla V3 supercharger output: ??
Based on the tweet above, it appears that the forthcoming V3 superchargers will have an output > 350 kW and that they will be solar powered. This means that the new superchargers will be capable of charging at MORE than twice as fast as the current chargers without straining the electricity grid (Solar).
I am more excited about Tesla in 2017 than I am about any other car company on this forum. So much to look forward to including:
• Tesla Model 3 unveil part 2 (Q1,2017)
• Tesla Model 3 deliveries (Q4,2017)
• Tesla Ride Sharing Network (Q4, 2017)
• Tesla Model Y Concept
• Tesla Semi Concept
• Tesla Minibus Concept
and on the energy front:
• Tesla Solar Roof Tiles deliveries
• Tesla Powerwall V2 deliveries
• Tesla V3 Supercharger
That's an ambitious list of deliverables. I really hope that Tesla can pull it all off and I'm confident that they will.
FYI:
Tesla V1 supercharger output: 120 kW
Tesla V2 supercharger output: 130 kW - 145 kW
Tesla V3 supercharger output: ??
Based on the tweet above, it appears that the forthcoming V3 superchargers will have an output > 350 kW and that they will be solar powered. This means that the new superchargers will be capable of charging at MORE than twice as fast as the current chargers without straining the electricity grid (Solar).
I am more excited about Tesla in 2017 than I am about any other car company on this forum. So much to look forward to including:
• Tesla Model 3 unveil part 2 (Q1,2017)
• Tesla Model 3 deliveries (Q4,2017)
• Tesla Ride Sharing Network (Q4, 2017)
• Tesla Model Y Concept
• Tesla Semi Concept
• Tesla Minibus Concept
and on the energy front:
• Tesla Solar Roof Tiles deliveries
• Tesla Powerwall V2 deliveries
• Tesla V3 Supercharger
That's an ambitious list of deliverables. I really hope that Tesla can pull it all off and I'm confident that they will.
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Battery Cell Production Begins at the Gigafactory
The Tesla Team January 4, 2017
Tesla’s mission is to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy through increasingly affordable electric vehicles in addition to renewable energy generation and storage. At the heart of these products are batteries. Today at the Gigafactory, Tesla and Panasonic begin mass production of lithium-ion battery cells, which will be used in Tesla’s energy storage products and Model 3.
The high performance cylindrical “2170 cell” was jointly designed and engineered by Tesla and Panasonic to offer the best performance at the lowest production cost in an optimal form factor for both electric vehicles and energy products.
Production of 2170 cells for qualification started in December and today, production begins on cells that will be used in Tesla’s Powerwall 2 and Powerpack 2 energy products. Model 3 cell production will follow in Q2 and by 2018, the Gigafactory will produce 35 GWh/year of lithium-ion battery cells, nearly as much as the rest of the entire world’s battery production combined.
The Gigafactory is being built in phases so that Tesla, Panasonic, and other partners can begin manufacturing immediately inside the finished sections and continue to expand thereafter. Our phased approach also allows us to learn and continuously improve our construction and operational techniques as we continue to drive down the cost of energy storage. Already, the current structure has a footprint of 1.9 million square feet, which houses 4.9 million square feet of operational space across several floors. And we are still less than 30 percent done. Once complete, we expect the Gigafactory to be the biggest building in the world.
With the Gigafactory online and ramping up production, our cost of battery cells will significantly decline due to increasing automation and process design to enhance yield, lowered capital investment per Wh of production, the simple optimization of locating most manufacturing processes under one roof, and economies of scale. By bringing down the cost of batteries, we can make our products available to more and more people, allowing us to make the biggest possible impact on transitioning the world to sustainable energy.
Finally, bringing cell production to the U.S. allows us to create thousands of American jobs. In 2017 alone, Tesla and Panasonic will hire several thousand local employees and at peak production, the Gigafactory will directly employ 6,500 people and indirectly create between 20,000 to 30,000 additional jobs in the surrounding regions.
https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/blog/battery-cell-production-begins-gigafactory?redirect=no
The Tesla Team January 4, 2017
Tesla’s mission is to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy through increasingly affordable electric vehicles in addition to renewable energy generation and storage. At the heart of these products are batteries. Today at the Gigafactory, Tesla and Panasonic begin mass production of lithium-ion battery cells, which will be used in Tesla’s energy storage products and Model 3.
The high performance cylindrical “2170 cell” was jointly designed and engineered by Tesla and Panasonic to offer the best performance at the lowest production cost in an optimal form factor for both electric vehicles and energy products.
Production of 2170 cells for qualification started in December and today, production begins on cells that will be used in Tesla’s Powerwall 2 and Powerpack 2 energy products. Model 3 cell production will follow in Q2 and by 2018, the Gigafactory will produce 35 GWh/year of lithium-ion battery cells, nearly as much as the rest of the entire world’s battery production combined.
The Gigafactory is being built in phases so that Tesla, Panasonic, and other partners can begin manufacturing immediately inside the finished sections and continue to expand thereafter. Our phased approach also allows us to learn and continuously improve our construction and operational techniques as we continue to drive down the cost of energy storage. Already, the current structure has a footprint of 1.9 million square feet, which houses 4.9 million square feet of operational space across several floors. And we are still less than 30 percent done. Once complete, we expect the Gigafactory to be the biggest building in the world.
With the Gigafactory online and ramping up production, our cost of battery cells will significantly decline due to increasing automation and process design to enhance yield, lowered capital investment per Wh of production, the simple optimization of locating most manufacturing processes under one roof, and economies of scale. By bringing down the cost of batteries, we can make our products available to more and more people, allowing us to make the biggest possible impact on transitioning the world to sustainable energy.
Finally, bringing cell production to the U.S. allows us to create thousands of American jobs. In 2017 alone, Tesla and Panasonic will hire several thousand local employees and at peak production, the Gigafactory will directly employ 6,500 people and indirectly create between 20,000 to 30,000 additional jobs in the surrounding regions.
https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/blog/battery-cell-production-begins-gigafactory?redirect=no
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Porsche was touting about 850 kw superchargers weren't they ? And besides can the battery it self benefit from the supercharger capacity evolution once the a certain amount of it has been charged ? (More than 50% charge ?)
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Porsche are going with 800 Volt chargers (somewhere in the range of 220kW - 350kW). I'm also guessing that all car manufacturers realize that this technology will only get better with time and that they are future-proofing their products accordingly.
There's more info on their brochure (PDF) below:
http://www.porscheengineering.com/filestore/download/peg/en/pemagazin-01-2016-artikel-e-power/default/09d75d4f-3e8d-11e6-8697-0019999cd470/e-power-–-New-Possibilities-with-800-Volt-Charging-Porsche-Engineering-Magazine-01-2016.pdf
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http://www.motor1.com/news/132733/tesla-misses-sales-target-2016/
Tesla misses sales target for 2016, but Wall Street doesn’t care
Tesla shares rose as much as three percent this past week.
Tesla announced in February that it had a plan in place to sell anywhere between 80,000 to 90,000 cars in 2016. Unfortunately, the company fell short of both its initial target and its adjusted target of 79,000 vehicles, moving just 76,230 units last year. Though Tesla says vehicles in transit are to blame for the sales shortcoming, Wall Street doesn’t care – Tesla stock is still climbing.
Surpassing its 2015 sales figure by more than 25,000 units, investors continue to see value in the growing automaker. According to The Street, Tesla shares rose more than three percent to $223.55 on Wednesday, a day after the company had announced that it had fallen short of its intended goal. Just 22,000 vehicles were sold in the fourth quarter.
The stock figure marks a three-month high for Tesla, which just recently started producing batteries at its new Gigafactory in Nevada. Shares crested at $227, and were up as much as four percent in afternoon trading before leveling off at $223.55 and a three percent increase.
With last year's $2.6 billion acquisition of Solar City, and more than 350,000 pre-orders of the more-affordable Model 3, investors are hoping that CEO Elon Musk is able to deliver on his promise of electric vehicles for the mass market. The Model 3 is estimated to cost somewhere near $35,000, with deliveries beginning late in 2017 or early 2018.
Along with the Model 3, a new Roadster and a new Gigafactory are also planned in the next few years. CEO Elon Musk says that while the revised Roadster is still "some years away," a new Gigafactory could begin construction as early as 2017, with the eventual goal to have as many as 500,000 Teslas on the road by 2018.
Tesla misses sales target for 2016, but Wall Street doesn’t care
Tesla shares rose as much as three percent this past week.
Tesla announced in February that it had a plan in place to sell anywhere between 80,000 to 90,000 cars in 2016. Unfortunately, the company fell short of both its initial target and its adjusted target of 79,000 vehicles, moving just 76,230 units last year. Though Tesla says vehicles in transit are to blame for the sales shortcoming, Wall Street doesn’t care – Tesla stock is still climbing.
Surpassing its 2015 sales figure by more than 25,000 units, investors continue to see value in the growing automaker. According to The Street, Tesla shares rose more than three percent to $223.55 on Wednesday, a day after the company had announced that it had fallen short of its intended goal. Just 22,000 vehicles were sold in the fourth quarter.
The stock figure marks a three-month high for Tesla, which just recently started producing batteries at its new Gigafactory in Nevada. Shares crested at $227, and were up as much as four percent in afternoon trading before leveling off at $223.55 and a three percent increase.
With last year's $2.6 billion acquisition of Solar City, and more than 350,000 pre-orders of the more-affordable Model 3, investors are hoping that CEO Elon Musk is able to deliver on his promise of electric vehicles for the mass market. The Model 3 is estimated to cost somewhere near $35,000, with deliveries beginning late in 2017 or early 2018.
Along with the Model 3, a new Roadster and a new Gigafactory are also planned in the next few years. CEO Elon Musk says that while the revised Roadster is still "some years away," a new Gigafactory could begin construction as early as 2017, with the eventual goal to have as many as 500,000 Teslas on the road by 2018.
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Hmm, i think we should slow down with the car industry shakeup, we have heard so much about ITs firms causing havoc because of the car industry inertia and yet all what i have seen right now is that those firms are closing and downsizing one after the other.
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Somewhere between two extremes, there is always a middle ground. The further convergence of information technology and mechanical engineering in the automotive sector is inevitable.
The automobile is destined to become so much more of an appliance of necessity rather than an acquisition of personal status. It's not going to happen overnight but it is going to happen.
The automobile is destined to become so much more of an appliance of necessity rather than an acquisition of personal status. It's not going to happen overnight but it is going to happen.
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Tesla Model Y to lead ambitious range expansion plans
The upcoming compact SUV, which is based on the forthcoming Model 3, could become the firm’s biggest seller
Tesla Inc — newly renamed after nearly 13 years as Tesla Motors Inc — is on the verge of what it says will be a massive expansion of production, with two new models due to arrive in the next two years.
As well as the much-hyped compact Model 3, Tesla is also expected to launch a compact crossover based on the same platform. The rumoured Model Y will, like the Model 3, be far more affordable than Tesla’s current offerings.
The starting price of the Model 3 is likely to be around $37,000 (£30,000), with the Model Y expected to be slightly more expensive. However, Tesla founder Elon Musk thinks the transaction prices of the new compact Teslas will be rather higher, at around £34,000 for the Model 3 and perhaps £37,000 for the Model Y, because buyers will be keen to add cost options to their vehicles.
While the compact Model Y could turn out to be Tesla’s best seller – some seven million crossovers of all types were sold in the US last year – Musk recently tweeted that the Model 3 remained the biggest priority for the company.
The Model Y is unlikely to be unveiled until some time next year, with production set to follow late in the year. Little in the way of specification has been released, but it’s likely to have the same tophinged ‘falcon wing’ rear doors as the bigger Model X SUV.
The Model Y will also have the promised updated electrical architecture that will allow Tesla to offer full autonomous driving capability. Future Tesla cars will be equipped with as many as eight cameras, giving a 360deg view of the surrounding roadscape, as well as 12 ultrasonic sensors and an unspecified ‘new’ forward-facing radar that works in the worst conditions. Existing radar systems can be fooled by heavy rain and fog.
Musk also said the new electrical architecture has a brain that is as much as “40 times” more powerful than on previous Teslas, calling it a “supercomputer inside the car”. The cost of adding the fully autonomous driving technology to the Model 3 and Y is likely to be nearly £7000 for each customer. Even then, local regulations could prevent all of the autonomous features being used by all drivers.
Another challenge for the Model 3 and Y will be balancing their lower price against the need for a battery big enough to give an acceptable range.
The entry-level Model 3 may have a cheaper, sub-60kWh battery but will still need to have a range of at least 230 miles. The Model Y’s more bluff shape and greater frontal area might mean a bigger battery for the same range, and so a slight price premium.
Tesla is in a race against time to achieve the kind of production levels needed to turn around what is still a cashhungry operation. The firm has spent nearly $2 billion (£1.6bn) since 2010, with investments including building the batterymaking Gigafactory and trying to expand car production to a massive 500,000 units a year.
Tesla delivered around 76,000 vehicles last year, but says it was able to build around 2000 cars per week by the second half of 2016. With as many as 400,000 deposits taken for the Model 3, the company is looking to produce well over 100,000 of the BMW 3 Series rival before the end of this year. Musk predicts Tesla should be capable of building 500,000 cars per year by 2019.
Musk’s expansion plans will test the limits of the capabilities of Tesla’s suppliers and those of his own plant in Freemont, California. But getting to annual sales of half a million vehicles should finally push the car maker into profit and secure the company’s long-term future.
The upcoming compact SUV, which is based on the forthcoming Model 3, could become the firm’s biggest seller
Tesla Model Y as imagined by Autocar
Tesla Inc — newly renamed after nearly 13 years as Tesla Motors Inc — is on the verge of what it says will be a massive expansion of production, with two new models due to arrive in the next two years.
As well as the much-hyped compact Model 3, Tesla is also expected to launch a compact crossover based on the same platform. The rumoured Model Y will, like the Model 3, be far more affordable than Tesla’s current offerings.
The starting price of the Model 3 is likely to be around $37,000 (£30,000), with the Model Y expected to be slightly more expensive. However, Tesla founder Elon Musk thinks the transaction prices of the new compact Teslas will be rather higher, at around £34,000 for the Model 3 and perhaps £37,000 for the Model Y, because buyers will be keen to add cost options to their vehicles.
While the compact Model Y could turn out to be Tesla’s best seller – some seven million crossovers of all types were sold in the US last year – Musk recently tweeted that the Model 3 remained the biggest priority for the company.
The Model Y is unlikely to be unveiled until some time next year, with production set to follow late in the year. Little in the way of specification has been released, but it’s likely to have the same tophinged ‘falcon wing’ rear doors as the bigger Model X SUV.
The Model Y will also have the promised updated electrical architecture that will allow Tesla to offer full autonomous driving capability. Future Tesla cars will be equipped with as many as eight cameras, giving a 360deg view of the surrounding roadscape, as well as 12 ultrasonic sensors and an unspecified ‘new’ forward-facing radar that works in the worst conditions. Existing radar systems can be fooled by heavy rain and fog.
Musk also said the new electrical architecture has a brain that is as much as “40 times” more powerful than on previous Teslas, calling it a “supercomputer inside the car”. The cost of adding the fully autonomous driving technology to the Model 3 and Y is likely to be nearly £7000 for each customer. Even then, local regulations could prevent all of the autonomous features being used by all drivers.
Another challenge for the Model 3 and Y will be balancing their lower price against the need for a battery big enough to give an acceptable range.
The entry-level Model 3 may have a cheaper, sub-60kWh battery but will still need to have a range of at least 230 miles. The Model Y’s more bluff shape and greater frontal area might mean a bigger battery for the same range, and so a slight price premium.
Tesla is in a race against time to achieve the kind of production levels needed to turn around what is still a cashhungry operation. The firm has spent nearly $2 billion (£1.6bn) since 2010, with investments including building the batterymaking Gigafactory and trying to expand car production to a massive 500,000 units a year.
Tesla delivered around 76,000 vehicles last year, but says it was able to build around 2000 cars per week by the second half of 2016. With as many as 400,000 deposits taken for the Model 3, the company is looking to produce well over 100,000 of the BMW 3 Series rival before the end of this year. Musk predicts Tesla should be capable of building 500,000 cars per year by 2019.
Musk’s expansion plans will test the limits of the capabilities of Tesla’s suppliers and those of his own plant in Freemont, California. But getting to annual sales of half a million vehicles should finally push the car maker into profit and secure the company’s long-term future.
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Tesla, Inc. is an American multinational automotive and clean energy company headquartered in
Austin, Texas. It designs, manufactures, and sells electric vehicles, stationary battery energy
storage devices from home to grid-scale, solar panels and solar shingles, and related products
and services. Incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors,
the company's name is a tribute to inventor and electrical engineer Nikola Tesla. In February
2004 Elon Musk joined as the company's largest shareholder and in 2008 he was named CEO.
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