Supra [Spy Shots] Toyota Supra

[martinbo]

It looks dumpy. I anticipate that the end product will be underwhelming, looks wise.

 

[SCOTT27]

Detroit Auto Show January 2019

In an empty large hall surrounded by multiple Panda expresses.

 

[rollo]

It looks dumpy. I anticipate that the end product will be underwhelming, looks wise.

I disagree, it still looks pretty good to me and reminiscent of a 240Z.

 

[Matski]

It looks dumpy. I anticipate that the end product will be underwhelming, looks wise.

I was a big fan of the FT1 concept car, squashing those styling cues onto a smaller platform has done the looks no favours in my opinion.

 

[Jan]

Teaser

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

^really, teaser? the past 2-3 years has been one protracted teaser!

*That scenery and road look lovely though.

 

[Soup]

Why is this taking so long?

They were planning to reclaim ring time from GT2 RS and Aventador SVJ, but now that Manthey Racing stepped up the game, the status is updated to pending

IMHO and my clash with Toyota employees from several regions:

- Toyota themselves closed the chapter on their sport cars, this A90 Supra will not be a successor to the A80. In my eyes, it's a bigger sized GT86 (Beef Burger > Big Mac)
- Several reviews disclosed that it will be powered by N/a engine, the last thing you can expect from Toyota is plenty of Torque out of a budget sports car.
- Toyota and N/a engines aren't the greatest (excluding the LFA) I've yet to find one Naturally Aspirated 6-Cylinder engine to put a smile on my face.
- Your Toyota salesman is a Pro at selling you a Yaris/Aygo/Corolla/Rav4/Camry etc.... A sports car to them is like a Bugatti Chiron, so they will play hard Big Time!! Best way to deal with such situation(s) is to turn around and walk away without hesitation.
- LFA didn't do well because of the above, been there, done that. Even the HQ in Japan doesn't seem to give a $hit whether they sell or not
- As long as their bread (Corolla + Camry) and butter (Rav4) are doing well, why would they even bother ?
- This car may sell like hot cakes the first 2-3 years (N.American market for sure) and it will flop because their main updates and upgrades will be aesthetically. It's like a change of makeup product.
- Another reason sales will slow down and most probably it will end up getting discontinued because of Pricing, Toyota sells you gimmicks (Navi, Parking Sensors with Rear-View Camera, BSM, CD/DVD/Blu-Ray Player w/HDMI port, New exterior colors that you can hardly tell if it's a solid paint or just plain paint...) while the performance remains the same.
- The main market that means a lot to Toyota is North America, elsewhere = to hell with them.
- Toyota cars in general are setup with soft suspensions for daily use in mind, but why would you do such a thing on a sports car ? If you wish to experience massive body roll and nose dives, you just won yourself a one way ticket to the ER.
- The brakes ? I can release a book with no less than 500 pages using all sorts of curse words ever known to mankind. If I had to guess who engineered their braking system with an "OK" good to go, my guess would be, Fred Flintstone and his assistant Barney Rubble.
- Finally, if you wish to live a healthy life, stay away from Toyota at all costs, specifically whenever they announce a new sports car is coming soon.

The team that designed this Toyota

Was inspired by this Ferrari

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[Matski]

- Several reviews disclosed that it will be powered by N/a engine, the last thing you can expect from Toyota is plenty of Torque out of a budget sports car.

BMW's B48, B46, and B58 engines will feature in the Supra 2.0i, 3.0i and 4.0i respectively, these are all Turbo engines. From what you have heard, is there another engine option on the table from Toyota themselves.

- LFA didn't do well because of the above, been there, done that. Even the HQ in Japan doesn't seem to give a $hit whether they sell or not

I think the €350,000 price was also a contributing factor.

- Toyota cars in general are setup with soft suspensions for daily use in mind, but why would you do such a thing on a sports car ? If you wish to experience massive body roll and nose dives, you just won yourself a one way ticket to the ER.

- The brakes ? I can release a book with no less than 500 pages using all sorts of curse words ever known to mankind. If I had to guess who engineered their braking system with an "OK" good to go, my guess would be, Fred Flintstone and his assistant Barney Rubble.

The car has essentially been delivered to them by BMW, at this stage I'd suggest it's a bit too soon to write it off on the basis of the badge.

 

[Soup]

BMW's B48, B46, and B58 engines will feature in the Supra 2.0i, 3.0i and 4.0i respectively, these are all Turbo engines. From what you have heard, is there another engine option on the table from Toyota themselves.

If the engine is coming from BMW, then there's no point in calling it a Supra [Case Closed]

Note: I just watched Shmee's video and he too confirmed a turbocharged engine coming out of BMW model.

Toyota is in love with Green & Eco-Friendly cars

I think the €350,000 price was also a contributing factor.

Yes, it's always been part of their bad pricing policy with each year getting a slight bump.

The car has essentially been delivered to them by BMW, at this stage...

Out of 15 - 20 models they produce, this may be better, but the rest of the lineup is a nightmare.

 

[SCOTT27]

Teaser

HmmmEuropean roads.
Talk about catering to your potential customers Toyota.

Then again the Underground is not really Underground anymore now that it has been brought out to the open by Schmees shiny teeth and the rest of the Supercar berks.

 

[Heisenberg]

 

[hovabongZA]

Looking good!

 

[Matski]

It'll pale into comparison compared to the FT-1 concept, but now fully sans camo and racing apparel it's looking fairly good.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Looking very good! Even if I am a BMW man, I think I will like this much better than Z4.

 

[Monster]

It'll pale into comparison compared to the FT-1 concept, but now fully sans camo and racing apparel it's looking fairly good.

I am actually surprised the production car, somehow they managed to retain the pointy high nose design

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

front looks promising but the car as a whole has tried my patience.

 

[SCOTT27]

I would Supra rather than the Z4.

 

[Centurion]

front looks promising but the car as a whole has tried my patience.

I think both the design and driving experience will live up to the hype.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I think both the design and driving experience will live up to the hype.

For their sake and those who have been anticipating this, I hope so.

 

[hovabongZA]

Z4 apparently drives nice since this is a coupe it should drive even better.