X5 [Spy Shots] Next Gen BMW X5 (G65) and iX5 - coming in 2027?

[klier]

Now we just have to hope that the Chinese ban touch screens only and require a certain minimum of buttons and controllers.

Not going to happen, as the Chinese buy their cars around the screens and software tech.

 

[Design FIRST]

Pretty incredible the TUV hasn't done this years ago already.

TÜV, as well as Euro NCAP, ADAC, Dekra and GTÜ, have indeed been scrutinizing the issue. In essence, they, so far, have voiced no reservations regarding a flush fit of exterior doorhandles per se. What they are concerning themselves with is the requirement that exterior doorhandles have an intuitively, manually engagable release and open mechanism that is in no way dependent the vehicles electrical/electronic circuitry. "Intuitive" meaning the handle popping out by applying moderate manual pressure (a press of a thumb, for example and NOT prying the handle forward) and presenting a grip that can accomodate a hand.

 

[klier]

TÜV, as well as Euro NCAP, ADAC, Dekra and GTÜ, have indeed been scrutinizing the issue. In essence, they, so far, have voiced no reservations regarding a flush fit of exterior doorhandles per se. What they are concerning themselves with is the requirement that exterior doorhandles have an intuitively, manually engagable release and open mechanism that is in no way dependent the vehicles electrical/electronic circuitry. "Intuitive" meaning the handle popping out by applying moderate manual pressure (a press of a thumb, for example) and presenting a grip that can accomodate a hand.

They shouldn't have allowed this on their market

 

[Matski]

TÜV, as well as Euro NCAP, ADAC, Dekra and GTÜ, have indeed been scrutinizing the issue. In essence, they, so far, have voiced no reservations regarding a flush fit of exterior doorhandles per se. What they are concerning themselves with is the requirement that exterior doorhandles have an intuitively, manually engagable release and open mechanism that is in no way dependent the vehicles electrical/electronic circuitry. "Intuitive" meaning the handle popping out by applying moderate manual pressure (a press of a thumb, for example and NOT prying the handle forward) and presenting a grip that can accomodate a hand.

China's regulations appear to stipulate that the door release be mechanical, it has to work in the event of an Airbag (or similar 'irreversible' safety device) deployment even if the doors are in their locked state, and it needs to work for 5 minutes after power loss... that last bit is interesting to me, I'm wondering if they're anticipating manufacturers using capacitors (or similar) integrated into the door release... but anyway, all this is to get rid of dependence on power for the system to work - as with EU agencies.

However, China are also stipulating a minimum volume that you need to be able to stick your fingers in at all times - so the 'intuitive' mechanism you describe, even if fully mechanical, wouldn't be legal.

If these are representative of BMWs solution...

I don't see why China would have a problem with them.

 

[Titot]

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DTAs6wjDAqK/?igsh=ZzNwY2lhMG5ubGc3

 

[Swissbob]

China's regulations appear to stipulate that the door release be mechanical, it has to work in the event of an Airbag (or similar 'irreversible' safety device) deployment even if the doors are in their locked state, and it needs to work for 5 minutes after power loss... that last bit is interesting to me, I'm wondering if they're anticipating manufacturers using capacitors (or similar) integrated into the door release... but anyway, all this is to get rid of dependence on power for the system to work - as with EU agencies.

However, China are also stipulating a minimum volume that you need to be able to stick your fingers in at all times - so the 'intuitive' mechanism you describe, even if fully mechanical, wouldn't be legal.

If these are representative of BMWs solution...

I don't see why China would have a problem with them.

I guess those handles are electric with a sensor pad, that’s a problem in China.

 

[Design FIRST]

I guess those handles are electric with a sensor pad, that’s a problem in China.

...or could they be lever handles after all ? Pulling on them lightly engaging a mechanical latch ?

 

[Centurion]

Will those door handles work like they do on the purosange?

Because of the size of the handle in relation to the size and weight or the doors, I presume that the doors will be power assisted?