7 Series (F01) [Spy Shots] BMW (F01) 7-Series Facelift (Spy pics & info)

[klier]

Worse for you you mean, because I very much like the current grille. It's different and imposing, while 5er's grille makes me yawn.

But maybe you are right, and it will change. I doubt it though, the grille is a major part of the F01 identity, and changing that is something they will not do without VERY good reasons. Changing the grille is not the same as a new bumper or different graphics in the lights.

 

[SKY]

I was thinking in the E65 case.

 

[klier]

Oh yeah, there's plenty more examples. E46 got a completely new grille with the facelift too. The whole front was completely different actually; lights, grille, bumper.... Almost not even the same car anymore.
And more recently, the E92/E93. The 3er coupe got a new grille too (sadly, less good looking)

Who knows, same could be happening for the F01 (though I doubt)

 

[JLBM]

^ 7er already has the very best BMW interior design right now imo. Everything else is less good looking. Including new 6er (imo of course).

7er interior is royal and supreme imo. Simple perfection.




I'll say you right here and right now, to avoid major disappointment:

the grille will not change shape.

Got to disagree.. 5er and 7er are virtually identical, only scale separates them.

 

[LaArtist]

^Yep..2nd that

and ofcourse its the best bmw interior.. its their top car..

But the issue is with the resemblence to other BMW interiors..not the quality or design..

 

[SCOTT27]

Actually if you really compare the current 7er and 5er , you can see how they are not one sausage in different lengths.

For example details between the two are very different , they share typical BMW design elements and a bloodline but they are two differently styled vehicles with their own proportions and individual strengths.

The 5er is more rounded around the roofline than the 7er and the forthcoming 3er will be more rounded than the 5er. The BMW characterline is higher on the 7er , with it being more centralised on the 5er and the 3er begins at a diagonal slope from the rear light cluster widening to the front wheel arch. If you compare the E39,E39 and E46 everything was at practically the same height. Headlights were practically the same as where rear lights. Each of the front and rear lights of the 5er , 7er and the new 3er use the typical BMW character but in a different interpretation.

The Life Cycle Improvement of the 7er features a new nose cone and there will be the option of full LED lights available.
Equipment wise there will be some new exciting Connected Drive features.

I highly doubt the nose cone will feature on ebay.de this time.

 

[K-A]

The 7 and 5 definitely have lots of subtle nuances that are different, but in person they're extremely hard to tell apart, almost interchangeable. The interiors are literally identical, in fact, I think I like the 5'ers better.

 

[SKY]

I can perfectly say whether a BMW is a 7er or a 5er when I see them on the streets. It´s true in the Bangle era, every BMW had different character line, entirely different front and rear lights, different interior designs, even different speedos and steering wheels.

No it´s different and every BMW sahre some common design features, nothing wrong IMO. But the only "problem" I see is that the 7er interior is too similar to the 5er one. When the F01 debuted back in July 2008, I just fell in love with the interior, even when it has some similarities with the X5/X6 interior I preferred it not to have. But when the 5er debuted, it makes the 7er interior less prestigious, less exclusive.

When you forget about every other BMW and you just look at the 7er interior, you say "wow, that´s a nice interior there", but the problem is that the 5er exists.

Any way, the 7er looks quite nice to me, and only a few touches on the bumpers, revised lights graphics and new rims and the car will look new again.

 

[bmwownage]

THe differentiation of the exterior between different BMW models is OK, i mean there aren't too many similarities between the F01 and the F10, it's just some elements that are shared, but pretty much they look totally different, different emotion too.
I hope the LCI gets a flatter kidney grille. I guess, like always BMW wants more hype and presence for its 7er to make sure it gets attention so that everyone doesn't go straight to the MB dealer for a S class. They've got it now and i think it's time for them to tone the kidney grille down, make it flatter so that it's more easily loved, and milk a bit more sales out of it before the next generation. Nice to hear the nose cone will change.
Got to agree that the F10's interior is too similar to the F01's. In fine detail, i think people can see and feel that the F01 is "a bit" more upscale, like more leather wrapping, less plastic, wider, better trim etc. but the problem is, the F10 also doesn't feel downscale, and they look the same. Arguably, i think the F10's interior is better. One thing i dont' like about the F01 is there is door handle on the door (inside) is replaced by that gap created between the trim and the panel. One can say it's kinda special, but it's also kinda weird, more like they couldn't think of a place to put the door handle.
Sadly though, i don't think they will do much to the interior. The biggest interior revamp from BMW lately is probably the E60, which wasn't much. And i believe BMW will find trouble trying to improve the F01's interior without a full redesign. It's great, but just doesn't look special enough.

 

[Deleted member 25]

The F10 & F01 design philisophy are completely different, it strucks me how people say they are the same car in different sizes.

 

[klier]

Arguably, i think the F10's interior is better. One thing i dont' like about the F01 is there is door handle on the door (inside) is replaced by that gap created between the trim and the panel. One can say it's kinda special, but it's also kinda weird, more like they couldn't think of a place to put the door handle.

I personally think the F01 is the best interior yet by BMW in modern cars. Better than F12 and F10.
And the door handle is RR like attention to detail. Absolutely great those door handles.

 

[donkeykong]

^I like 6er's interiors above any current BMW.

 

[klier]

It's a bit over designed IMO. German interiors should be more clean and simple. That's my problem with the recent Audi's too; they're so busy from the inside...

 

[SKY]

To me, the best thing of the 7er interior is that every line is horizontal, it looks fantastic. I use to critisize that it is too similar to the 5er one, but, when you´ve been inside both of them, you realise that the quallity of the 7er is really 3 levels over the 5er one, and is one of the most exquisites fit and finished I´ve never seen.

 

[christian10022]

One thing that is certain is that the F01/02 is the best looking luxury sedan in it's class with presence, elegance and a certain sportiness only the Jaguar XJ comes close in the 'turning heads' department.

In the TV series Dexter, a guy called Jordan Chase had a black F02 750Li...man that car just looks good on Miami's roads and on TV

The 750 is a head turner? Really? It has never turned my head.

 

[Sayyaaf]

^ it could be either way, toward the car or away from it

 

[bum-man]

^ The only way an F01 could ever turn heads in its direction is if it had a W221 following closely behind it.

 

[bmwownage]

^ The only way an F01 could ever turn heads in its direction is if it had a W221 following closely behind it.

Got to disagree, the W221 doesn't really look special, it's just another MB, which it should... S-classes never needed to be radical.

So what's 'iCenter'??

 

[Padi]

Only S that turns my head are the AMG models, the other ones are too common to "amaze" me. The 7er in the other hand turns my head every time so does the A8 though I hate the new model. Never really liked the S styling anyway.
So is this fl comimg out in late 2011?

 

[Centurion]

Only S that turns my head are the AMG models, the other ones are too common to "amaze" me.

I agree. We've been desensitized due to Mercedes releasing either a new AMG model every month of facelifting an existing model. Added to that is the AMG kits which are far too similar to the real deal.

The F01 is a brilliant design that has grown on me over the years. It doesn't need an uplift besides a few subtle touches to the arrangement in the headlight units and possibly refreshed graphics at the rear.