Sport Auto - Nordschleife laptimes

[Zafiro]

I noticed there is a lot of talking about laptimes. Since Sport Auto is a well-known source and well-respected source around the world and the most fairness source we have, I'm starting a list about Sport Auto's laptimes. Factory times won't be included in this thread.

Sport Auto always use the same driver, they always test the cars the way they leave the factory. They tell us a lot of details, such as air temperature, asphalt-temperature, road conditions, tires and so on.

Sport Auto's notes regarding Nordschleife:
For a fast and meaningful round time on the Nordschleife north loop a very soft, round and clean style of driving on the ideal line is crucial. Weaknesses during the chassis tuning are relentlessly uncovered.
Apart from the round time also the brake delays, transverse accelerations and the speeds at all points of the distance are taken up.



7.24 min – Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997 mk2) – 620 hp, 1405 kg, semi-slicks
7.24 min – Gumpert Apollo Sport – 700 hp, 1458 kg, semi-slicks
7.25 min - Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 - 700 hp, 1794 kg, semi-slicks
7.28 min - McLaren MP4-12C - 600 hp, 1473 kg, semi-slicks
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 - 500 hp, 1388 kg, semi-slicks
7.32 min – Porsche Carrera GT – 612 hp, 1473 kg
7.33 min – Porsche 911 GT2 (997 mk1) – 530 hp, 1497 kg, semi-slicks
7.33 min – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997 mk2) – 450 hp, 1417 kg, semi-slicks
7.33 min – Pagani Zonda F – 602 hp, 1371 kg
7.34 min – Audi R8 GT – 560 hp, 1577 kg, semi-slicks
7.34 min – Koenigsegg CCR – 806 hp, 1418 kg
7.34 min - Lexus LFA Nürburgring Edition - 571 hp, 1563 kg
7.35 min – Ruf Rt12 (997) – 650 hp, 1573 kg, semi-slicks
7.36 min - Nissan GT-R (R35 mk2) - 530 hp, 1784 kg, semi-slicks
7.38 min - Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera - 570 hp, 1493 kg, semi-slicks
7.38 min – Corvette ZR1 – 647 hp, 1533 kg
7.38 min – Lexus LFA – 560 hp, 1598 kg
7.38 min – Ferrari 458 Italia – 570 hp, 1540 kg
7.38 min – Nissan GT-R (R35 mk1) – 486 hp, 1778 kg, semi-slicks
7.39 min – TechArt GTstreet (997 mk1) – 630 hp, 1552 kg, semi-slicks
7.39 min – Ferrari 430 Scuderia – 510 hp, 1402 kg, semi-slicks
7.40 min – Porsche 911 GT3 (997 mk2) – 435 hp, 1426 kg, semi-slicks
7.40 min – Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG – 571 hp, 1647 kg, sport-suspension
7.42 min – Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV – 670 hp, 1764 kg, semi-slicks
7.44 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - 400 hp, 1497 kg, sport-suspension
7.44 min - Porsche 911 Turbo S (997.2) - 530 hp, 1569 kg
7.44 min – Audi R8 5.2 FSI R-tronic – 525 hp, 1660 kg, semi-slicks
7.44 min – Pagani Zonda S – 555 hp, 1388 kg
7.46 min - Porsche 911 GT2 (996.1) - 462 hp, 1450 kg
7.46 min – Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera – 530 hp, 1528 kg, semi-slicks
7.46 min - Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series (Aero Pack, Dunlop SportMaxxRace M0) - 517 hp, 1748 kg
7.47 min - Porsche 911 Turbo PDK (997.2) - 500 hp, 1573 kg
7.47 min – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996) – 381 hp, 1373 kg, semi-slicks
7.47 min – Wiesmann GT MF5 – 507 hp, 1421 kg, semi-slicks
7.47 min – Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 E-gear – 640 hp, 1805 kg, semi-slicks
7.47 min – Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano – 620 hp, 1748 kg
7.48 min – Porsche 911 GT3 (997 mk1) – 415 hp, 1440 kg, semi-slicks
7.48 min – BMW M3 GTS – 450 hp, 1546 kg, semi-slicks
7.48 min – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997 mk1) – 415 hp, 1424 kg, semi-slicks
7.49 min – Corvette Z06 – 512 hp, 1440 kg
7.50 min – Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (997 mk2) – 385 hp, 1450 kg, semi-slicks
7.50 min – BMW M3 CSL – 360 hp, 1421 kg, semi-slicks
7.51 min - Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series - 670 hp, 1880 kg
7.52 min – Porsche Panamera Turbo S - 550 hp, 2028 kg
7.52 min – Porsche 911 Turbo (997 mk1) – 2nd attempt, 480 hp, 1580 kg (est.), semi-slicks
7.52 min – Ford GT – 550 hp, 1599 kg
7.52 min – Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 – 560 hp, 1590 kg, semi-slicks
7.52 min – Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear ’03 (sport-suspension) – 500 hp, 1613 kg
7.52 min – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren – 626 hp, 1747 kg
7.54 min – Porsche 911 Turbo (997 mk1) – 1st attempt, 480 hp, 1581 kg, semi-slicks
7.54 min – Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM AMG – 582 hp, 1678 kg, semi-slicks
7.55 min – Ferrari F430 F1 – 490 hp, 1493 kg, semi-slicks
7.56 min – Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale – 425 hp, 1387 kg, semi-slicks
7.56 min – Ferrari California – 460 hp, 1787 kg
7.57 min – AC Schnitzer Tension (M6) – 552 hp, 1797 kg, semi-slicks
7.58 min - Raeder-Ford Focus RS - 363 hp, 1441 kg, semi-slicks
7.59 min - Audi RS5 (facelift) - 450 hp, 1880 kg
8.01 min - Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Coupé Performance Package - 487 hp, 1770 kg
8.02 min - Aston Martin DBS - 517 hp, 1727 kg
8.03 min - Jaguar XKR-S - 550 hp, 1843 kg
8.03 min – Aston Martin V8 Vantage ’06 – 385 hp, 1636 kg, semi-slicks
8.03 min - Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG Performance Package - 557 hp, 1919 kg
8.04 min - Porsche Boxster S PDK - 315 hp, 1405 kg
8.04 min – Audi R8 (V8) – 420 hp, 1595 kg, semi-slicks
8.05 min – Porsche 911 Carrera S (997 mk1) – 355 hp, 1461 kg, sport-suspension
8.05 min – BMW M3 Coupé (E92) – 420 hp, 1608 kg, semi-slicks
8.05 min – Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series – 507 hp, 1745 kg, semi-slicks
8.05 min - Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 - 525 hp, 1775 kg
8.06 min - Porsche Cayman R PDK - 330 hp, 1385 kg, semi-slicks (Conti ForceContact)
8.07 min - Ferrari 550 Maranello - 485 hp, 1724 kg
8.09 min - Audi TT RS - 340 hp, 1483 kg
8.09 min - Ferrari 360 Modena - 400 hp, 1464 kg
8.09 min – Audi RS4 ’06 – 420 hp, 1728 kg, semi-slicks
8.09 min – BMW M6 – 507 hp, 1761 kg, semi-slicks
8.10 min - Porsche Cayman R PDK - 330 hp, 1385 kg
8.10 min - Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG '10 - 525 hp, 1889 kg
8.10 min – KTM X-Bow Clubsport – 240 hp, 858 kg, semi-slicks
8.10 min – BMW Alpina B6 S – 530 hp, 1815 kg
8.13 min – BMW M5 (E60) – 507 hp, 1844 kg
8.13 min – Dodge Viper SRT-10 – 506 hp, 1585 kg
8.13 min – Artega GT – 300 hp, 1272 kg, semi-slicks
8.13 min – Aston Martin V8 Vantage ’06 – 385 hp, 1636 kg
8.14 min – Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG – 612 hp, 2049 kg
8.14 min – BMW Alpina B3 Biturbo Coupé – 360 hp, 1634 kg
8.14 min – Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG Black Series – 400 hp, 1506 kg, semi-slicks
8.14 min – Steinmetz-Opel Astra OPC – 285 hp, 1418 kg, semi-slicks
8.15 min – BMW Alpina Roadster S (Z4) – 300 hp, 1416 kg, semi-slicks
8.15 min - BMW 1M Coupé - 340 hp, 1513 kg
8.15 min – Corvette C6 – 404 hp, 1492 kg
8.16 min – AC Schnitzer V8 Topster (Z4) – 450 hp, 1557 kg, semi-slicks
8.16 min – Aston Martin DB9 Touchtronic (mk1) – 457 hp, 1847 kg
8.16 min - AC Schnitzer-BMW CSL II - 350 hp, 1401 kg
8.17 min – Porsche Cayman S PDK (987 mk2) – 320 hp, 1458 kg
8.17 min - Aston Martin Vanquish - 460 hp, 1888 kg
8.18 min – Lexus IS-F – 423 hp, 1726 kg
8.18 min - Ferrari F355 Berlinetta - 380 hp, 1350 kg (est.)
8.18 min – Porsche Boxster S PDK (987 mk2) – 310 hp, 1447 kg
8.18 min - BMW Z8 - 400 hp, 1651 kg
8.18 min – Maserati GranSport – 400 hp, 1672 kg
8.20 min - Audi RS6 Sedan '02 - 450 hp, 1908 kg
8.20 min - Audi RS3 Sportback - 340 hp, 1647 kg
8.22 min – Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG – 367 hp, 1680 kg
8.22 min - BMW M3 (E46) - 343 hp, 1584 kg
8.22 min - BMW Z3 M Coupé - 321 hp, 1445 kg
8.23 min – Porsche Boxster S (987 mk1) – 280 hp, 1426 kg
8.23 min - Aston Martin DB7 GT - 442 hp, 1833 kg
8.24 min – BMW X6 M – 555 hp, 2343 kg
8.24 min – Subaru Impreza WRX STi ’04 – 265 hp, 1487 kg, semi-slicks
8.24 min – Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG – 360 hp, 1566 kg
8.25 min – Porsche Cayman S (987 mk1) – 295 hp, 1412 kg
8.25 min – Ford Focus RS (mk2) – 305 hp, 1485 kg, semi-slicks
8.25 min – Audi RS4 ’00 – 380 hp, 1675 kg
8.25 min – Jaguar XKR – 416 hp, 1775 kg
8.25 min – Lotus Exige S ’08 – 243 hp, 940 kg, semi-slicks
8.26 min – Nissan 350Z – 280 hp, 1526 kg
8.26 min – Audi S5 Coupé – 354 hp, 1722 kg
8.26 min – Ford Focus RS (mk2) – 305 hp, 1485 kg
8.26 min – BMW 335i Coupé – 306 hp, 1610 kg
8.28 min - BMW M5 (E39) - 400 hp, 1833 kg
8.29 min – Audi TTS – 272 hp, 1438 kg
8.29 min - Renault Mégane RS Cup '11 - 250 hp, 1409 kg
8.29 min - Audi S4 Avant '03 - 344 hp, 1826 kg
8.29 min – MTM-Volkswagen Golf V GTi DSG – 272 hp, 1437 kg
8.32 min – BMW Z4 Coupé 3.0si – 265 hp, 1408 kg
8.32 min - BMW Z3 M Roadster - 321 hp, 1410 kg
8.32 min – Lotus Exige S2 ’04 – 192 hp, 907 kg, semi-slicks
8.34 min - Volkswagen Golf R - 270 hp, 1531 kg
8.36 min - BMW Alpina B3 3.3 Coupé '99 - 280 hp, 1495 kg
8.38 min – Renault Mégane Sport Trophy – 224 hp, 1371 kg
8.38 min - Volkswagen Golf GTi Edition 35 - 235 hp, 1390 kg
8.40 min – Audi TT 2.0 TFSI – 200 hp, 1322 kg
8.41 min - Aston Martin DB7 Vantage '99 - 420 hp, 1847 kg
8.41 min – Audi S3 ’99 – 210 hp, 1489 kg
8.42 min - Audi S4 '98 - 265 hp, 1592 kg
8.45 min – Volvo C30 T5 – 230 hp, 1450 kg

 

[Alx]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

very impressive time, that Aston is wild to pull 8.03. Must be an unreal drive!!!

That is officially super car times.

I really underestimated their V8.

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

very impressive time, that Aston is wild to pull 8.03. Must be an unreal drive!!!

Just for the record, the time 8.03 min is done with R-tires and the time 8.13 min without R-tires.

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

List updated: Golf GTI DSG 200hp, time 8.52 min

 

[LaArtist]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Zonda F should be No1.. they will show us the time soon.. and if you just want sportauto times.. then just wait until they try it cause if they have talented drivers.. it should be on top..

PS
They should test the Zonda F CS so that there could be a gap on top..hehe

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Zonda F should be No1.. they will show us the time soon.. and if you just want sportauto times.. then just wait until they try it cause if they have talented drivers.. it should be on top..

PS
They should test the Zonda F CS so that there could be a gap on top..hehe

sportauto has one driver and he is very talented, been drinving cars since he was little and done a lot competitions, he is a pro. He drove the CGT in 7.32 min and the rumours say he has driven the new Zonda but its not officiell yet.

 

[dOmInIX]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

sportauto has one driver and he is very talented, been drinving cars since he was little and done a lot competitions, he is a pro. He drove the CGT in 7.32 min and the rumours say he has driven the new Zonda but its not officiell yet.

Walter Rohrl said he can do the best time in CGT whenever he wants, because he HAS EXPIRIENCE (Group B...)

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Walter Rohrl said he can do the best time in CGT whenever he wants, because he HAS EXPIRIENCE (Group B...)

sure he can but so can HvS. HvS holds the record for fastest production car around Nordschleife, time 7.32 min. Sportautos times are officiell times. Remember this is times from sportauto and not factory times so dont involve factory drivers. Thanks.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

SL55 faster than E60 M5 .. thats interesting ..

C55 and E46 M4 are even ....

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

SL55 faster than E60 M5 .. thats interesting ..

C55 and E46 M4 are even ....

no not really since there are not same type of car. BMW Z8 which is a roadster like SL55 have a time of 8.17 min with 400hp. Roadsters has better handling than 4-doors cause of lower center of gravity. So far, the M5 is fastest 4-door sedan but probably only until RS4 has been tested.

BTW SL65 is slower than both M5 and SL55. Next issue of Sportauto, the M6 will be tested, I expect a time less than 8.10 min.

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

C55 and E46 M4 are even ....

yes but the time for M3 was done by end of year 2000, same period as C32 existed and c32 did it in 8.3x min. C55 was tested many years later. Now there is a competition package for the M3 which will improve laptimes but it havent been tested yet.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Just_me: i know SL55 had a lower COG ... but it weighs much higher than the M5 .. 2 tons + .. and M5 is 1870 Kg I think .. so there is a weight advantage for the M5 ..

anyways .. just thats what i noticed from the list .. thanx btw ..

 

[Centurion]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Aren't Ferraris supposed to have fantastic handling? I'm really suprised to see that many of the Ferraris like the 575 isn't on top of the list.

 

[klier]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Will the Veyron crush all????

 

[Tumbo]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Soon the new RS4 will be another one under 8 mins

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Just_me: i know SL55 had a lower COG ... but it weighs much higher than the M5 .. 2 tons + .. and M5 is 1870 Kg I think .. so there is a weight advantage for the M5 ..

anyways .. just thats what i noticed from the list .. thanx btw ..

doesnt help (the differnece is 120kg according to sportauto), besides Nordschleife is more about power which Hockenheim isnt and there M5 is faster than SL55. But who care about that when SL65 is slower than both M5 and SL55. Expect the M6 to beat M5, SL55/65

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Aren't Ferraris supposed to have fantastic handling? I'm really suprised to see that many of the Ferraris like the 575 isn't on top of the list.

they are doing much better on short tracks, like Hockenheim where power isnt a important thing. However, I dont think 8.05 min is a bad time.

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Will the Veyron crush all????

dont think so, yes the time will be great but I have a feeling Veyron is more a luxury car than a trackcar. Zonda and CGT will be faster.

 

[Mr. Chigga_Chan]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

I'm surprised the SLR has a better time than the CLK_DTM, I would think the DTM is a rawer sports car for the track....maybe different conditions.

The Zonda F with a good driver should be near or at the top of that list....

 

[Centurion]

Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

they are doing much better on short tracks, like Hockenheim where power isnt a important thing. However, I dont think 8.05 min is a bad time.

8.05 not a bad time but still their cars are praised in magazines so I'd expect them to do well on track just like the Ferrari F1 cars.