7 Series (G70) [Rumors] BMW (G70) 7-Series Facelift (Spy pics & info)

[Esp5]

Hopefully, this will help with the weak sales. The engine range was very uninspiring.

What weak sales? Sales of the 7 series are very good and consistent, stop trolling and lying.

 

[Matski]

What weak sales? Sales of the 7 series are very good and consistent, stop trolling and lying.

You don't always have to take the bait y'know.

 

[leylandi]

What weak sales? Sales of the 7 series are very good and consistent, stop trolling and lying.

Yes, there is a steady decline.

2023 59,763 (incl. 8 Series)
2024 56,542 (incl. 8 Series)

While BMW was achieving record-breaking sales, the 7 Series couldn't replicate that success. The G11 was selling much better.

2016 : 61,514
2017 : 64,311

 

[klier]

Yes, there is a steady decline.

2023 59,763 (incl. 8 Series)
2024 56,542 (incl. 8 Series)

While BMW was achieving record-breaking sales, the 7 Series couldn't replicate that success. The G11 was selling much better.

2016 : 61,514
2017 : 64,311

Molten brain syndrome.

Pathetic f#cking troll.

 

[SKY]

Yes, there is a steady decline.

2023 59,763 (incl. 8 Series)
2024 56,542 (incl. 8 Series)

While BMW was achieving record-breaking sales, the 7 Series couldn't replicate that success. The G11 was selling much better.

2016 : 61,514
2017 : 64,311

How is this any different than the other large sedans? The A8 is not even selling at all.

 

[Rolf]

The 7 series is the only rival of the S-class that can come closest to sales and this has been going on for many generations. The A8 was good but its been in a decline and needs to be seriously updated or replaced.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

The 7 series is the only rival of the S-class that can come closest to sales and this has been going on for many generations. The A8 was good but its been in a decline and needs to be seriously updated or replaced.

A8 has/had an unique selling point: interior quality. Today even more so than ever. On the downside, it's design was old looking at introduction and it's an Audi, as in not a Merceders-Benz or BMW. Great car by the way.

 

[leylandi]

How is this any different than the other large sedans? The A8 is not even selling at all.

After the W223 was launched, 100,000 units were delivered annually. This figure then gradually decreased. A8 sales are very low compared to its competitors.

2021 91,000
2022 117,500, EQS 23,400
2023 93,300, EQS 14,100

 

[klier]

I hope the mods are at least contemplating on banning this boy

 

[leylandi]

Do I need to be punished for sharing information that upset you? You're so funny.

 

[Esp5]

After the W223 was launched, 100,000 units were delivered annually. This figure then gradually decreased. A8 sales are very low compared to its competitors.

2021 91,000
2022 117,500, EQS 23,400
2023 93,300, EQS 14,100

Gradually? S-Class sales dropped 35% from 2023 to 2024 and almost 40% by 2025.

You've published sales figures UP TO 2023 so many times, avoiding mentioning the last two years, it's laughable.

 

[klier]

Do I need to be punished for sharing information that upset you? You're so funny.

Nah, just for trolling and cherry picking numbers for your crusade on BMW.

You're so sad. Nobody even f#cking cares about these numbers. The S class facelift is not going to turn pretty when it sells more.

 

[Matski]

I hope the mods are at least contemplating on banning this boy

I'm thinking of thread banning 3 members.

 

[Esp5]

Do I need to be punished for sharing information that upset you? You're so funny.

To say that more than 50,000 sales per year is "weak" is simply trolling; the S Class today must be around 60,000 at best.

 

[leylandi]

Gradually? S-Class sales dropped 35% from 2023 to 2024 and almost 40% by 2025.

You've published sales figures UP TO 2023 so many times, avoiding mentioning the last two years, it's laughable.

I'm tired of arguing with you about the same things. Because even if I say the same things, you have no desire to learn. The manufacturer hasn't shared the data for the last two years. Even if it hadn't been shared, we know it sold more than the 7 Series. Your attempt to create drama out of a decline in sales of a 6-year-old car shows your desperation. You were so hopeful when the 7 Series was launched, but in its first full year it only sold half as many cars as the W233. You're still trying to create drama. The S-Class is the king of this segment. BMW couldn't surpass the S-Class even though it sold 400,000 more cars. I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. You can keep whining...

 

[leylandi]

Nah, just for trolling and cherry picking numbers for your crusade on BMW.

You're so sad. Nobody even f#cking cares about these numbers. The S class facelift is not going to turn pretty when it sells more.

I'm not arguing with you about this. I don't care that it doesn't concern you. You're trolling by harassing everything I write. I think that's the pathetic part. You're only here to amuse yourself. You have no informative qualities.

 

[leylandi]

I'm thinking of thread banning 3 members.

?

 

[Swissbob]

The biggest issue of the 7er is its size , it doesn’t sell in europe because there’s no swb version of the 7er.

 

[Design FIRST]

The biggest issue of the 7er is its size , it doesn’t sell in europe because there’s no swb version of the 7er.

That is certainly part of it.

IMHO, a 7er should be no longer than, say, 5300mm long and no taller than 1470-1480mm in LWB configuration. And a SWB version, catering primarily to the EU markets, measuring in some 100-120mm less in length and a wee bit less in height would be ideal.

The G11's were a "sweet spot" for this segment of sedan.

 

[Swissbob]

That is certainly part of it.

IMHO, a 7er should be no longer than, say, 5300mm long and no taller than 1470-1480mm in LWB configuration. And a SWB version, catering primarily to the EU markets, measuring in some 100-120mm less in length and a wee bit less in height would be ideal.

The G11's were a "sweet spot" for this segment of sedan.

Exactly.

That’s where the 223 sits at the moment.

On European parking lots you can barely squeeze in a 5.2m long car, that’s the limit.