7 Series [Rumors] BMW (G70) 7-Series Facelift (Spy pics & info)

[Mr. Mercedes]

More chiseled facia like the iX.

The last thing the 7 needed was more vulgarity.

Probably too late to graft the 'Neu' aesthetic I guess, which would have looked far better IMO.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Here in Switzerland most S classes have the AMG pack, Maybach are rare.

Same.

Are they SWB self driven vehicles up there?

 

[Swissbob]

Same.

Are they SWB self driven vehicles up there?

Most of them are self driven I would say 90%.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Most of them are self driven I would say 90%.

Sounds like similar market demographics to here.

Culling their entire high end range, when they were supposedly focusing on high end sales, we ended up only getting the S450 and S450L petrols and a handful of Maybachs here as a result.

Stupidly, Mercedes Australia chose to import the EQS53 AMG instead of the S63 AMG, which already had a loyal customer base. You can guess, that didn't work out well for them. The EQS AMG was the biggest sales dud out of the entire EQ range.

 

[Swissbob]

Sounds like similar market demographics to here.

Culling their entire high end range, when they were supposedly focusing on high end sales, we ended up only getting the S450 and S450L petrols and a handful of Maybachs here as a result.

Stupidly, Mercedes Australia chose to import the EQS53 AMG instead of the S63 AMG, which already had a loyal customer base. You can guess, that didn't work out well for them. The EQS AMG was the biggest sales dud out of the entire EQ range.

Very interesting

The S63 being only LWB is also a stupid decision, but they became very popular here, people are only complaining about the trunk.

The 450 is to weak for the S. The 580 however is still very popular in Switzerland, and it’s the typical S-class. People who always drove the V8 non AMG S-class love the 580.

MB Australia seems to to be run by morons, the EQS53 is absolutely silly, only the C63SE is worse.
I am not surprised nobody bought it. The ultimate image destroying machine.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

MB Australia seems to to be run by morons, the EQS53 is absolutely silly, only the C63SE is worse.
I am not surprised nobody bought it. The ultimate image destroying machine.

Absolute morons! lol.

A SWB S63 would be an amazing package, but I think we would even settle for the S580 here lol.

 

[Swissbob]

Absolute morons! lol.

A SWB S63 would be an amazing package, but I think we would even settle for the S580 here lol.

With the 10 degree rear wheel steering, the 580 is the perfect city car and with the e-abc you’d stop complaining about the potholes, because you wouldn’t feel them anymore.

The S63 is a rocket ship which looks like a saloon.

Both are gorgeous.

 

[Design FIRST]

The SWB W223 is an extremely rare bird here in Germany. Most would rather choose a lavishly configured W214 E-Class sedan.

 

[Uygar]

I think it’s mainly because the E-Class has grown so much that it’s almost the same size as a SWB S-Class now. No wonder why people prefer the LWB. In Turkiye W223 wasn’t offered as a SWB, only LWB versions, as people didn’t buy the shorter ones. Only engines offered here are 450d, 500 and 63 AMG. At some point 400d and 580 was also available but they stopped offering those. The V12 Maybach 680 is also not available, only the 580.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I think it’s mainly because the E-Class has grown so much that it’s almost the same size as a SWB S-Class now. No wonder why people prefer the LWB. In Turkiye W223 wasn’t offered as a SWB, only LWB versions, as people didn’t buy the shorter ones. Only engines offered here are 450d, 500 and 63 AMG. At some point 400d and 580 was also available but they stopped offering those. The V12 Maybach 680 is also not available, only the 580.

Same mostly in the UK. No swb because aside from having a V8 option (which no longer exists in the UK anyway), there's no value in getting a base swb S class over a fully loaded E class, which offers 85% of the comfort.