EQS (V297) [Renders] 2020 Mercedes-Benz EQS


The Mercedes-Benz EQS (V297) is a battery electric full-size luxury liftback car produced by Mercedes-Benz Group and part of the Mercedes-Benz EQ family. Production: May 2021- Model years: 2022–
I do not know, although the first one left the great impression on everyone just for being the first, just look at the street one of the second generation (I have not yet seen the third), to appreciate that they are the non plus ultra of the four-door cars, may not have the mystique of the first but are more than worthy successors
 
I think the current one really pretty but the press has panned it's driving qualities.

M
 
Good point, yes the original CLS was a stunner. Forgot about that one.

M

Black CLS 55 AMG was my dream car.

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Truth be told the C218 CLS was mighty fine as well IMO.

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I think the current one really pretty but the press has panned it's driving qualities.

M

I tend to the the current CLS looks bland outside of CLS53 guise. Interior is completely un-unique.

The first gen CLS was just as pretty in base spec compared to the AMGs.
 
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Judging by the photographs of prototypes released so far, the EQS appears more the "sporty minivan" than a highly desirable athletic, luxurious 4 door sedoupe. M-B is taking quite a gamble in embarking onto this path. Very recent prototype photographs of Audis' upcoming eTron GT and Jaguars' electric XJ, not to mention the already available Porsche Taycan and Tesla S, adeptly display that BEV automobiles need not be pods or lounge capsules. I also eagerly await BMWs' i4 and the BEV 5 and 7 series successors. Should the i4 be an indication of the design direction that BMW will implement, I predict a very favorable market reception. Alas, as far as the EQS is concerned, I perceive it as being simply..."weird".
 
All I care about this car is that it has a real life range of at least 450 km or 280 miles, because I saw the Carwow real life EV range and the Mercedes EQC was the one EV that rode the least. It only did 194 miles (312 km); 75% of its claimed range

The efforts from the German in the EV segment are tepid to say the least. Even Kia is doing a better job than the Germans. The e-Niro achieved 255 miles (410 km); that's 90% of its claimed range.
 
All I care about this car is that it has a real life range of at least 450 km or 280 miles, becaus...

I wouldn’t say “even Kia” as if that is a surprise. The Koreans are investing very heavily in this space. They see their chance to move up in reputation and are pursuing this opportunity full force.
 
I think this prototype has the real headlights.
Sorry for the bad quality of the screenshots.
It's coming from a video post on Mercedes fans.de website.
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I think this prototype has the real headlights.
Sorry for the bad quality of the screenshots.
It'...

The way in which the windscreen rakes into the bonnet oddly reminds me of...this:

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The way in which the windscreen rakes into the bonnet oddly reminds me of...this:

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I think the windscreen and hood relationship won't be as extreme as that. I know the interior of the EQS will be impressive, but I think Gorden set us up for disappointment by creating the EQS concept. I personally believe the finished product will have the same issues I don't like about the Jaguar i-Pace with its blunt nose.
 
I think the windscreen and hood relationship won't be as extreme as that. I know the interior...
The concept has some very nice proportions, which obviously are not present in the production car. It looks like the designer is a kind of ashamed of the final product and creates the good looking concept in order to show hat he is not inapt and it could look good if only all the restrictions for the production cars were not valid.
 
Will autonomous driving be a big feature for this vehicle or is Mercedes tech not on a level required for regulatory approval in key markets?
 
Will autonomous driving be a big feature for this vehicle or is Mercedes tech not on a level re...
Might be misplaced but here is what Audi just did:

Audi quits bid to give A8 Level 3 autonomy
CHRISTIAAN HETZNER
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With no indication on the specific requirements for a Level 3 autonomy, Audi says it won't have sufficient time to make its eyes-off autonomous system compliant in the A8, which is due for a face-lift next year.


FRANKFURT -- Audi has abandoned plans to introduce its Level 3, eyes-off autonomous driving technology in its A8 flagship sedan, a senior executive told Automotive News Europe.

The feature, called Traffic Jam Pilot, was the most significant technological breakthrough added to the latest-generation A8 that debuted in 2017. At that time Audi said the system would only be activated in markets where governments allowed it.

Since then, global regulators in Geneva have still not agreed on a type approval process for even the most rudimentary Level 3 functionality. At that level a vehicle can be put in auto pilot under certain circumstances, allowing the driver to take his eyes off the road.

Given the various regulatory delays, Audi says it won't have sufficient time to make its Level 3 system compliant in the A8, whose facelifted version is due to arrive next year already.

"We will not see the Traffic Jam Pilot on the road with its originally planned Level 3 functionality in the current model generation of the Audi A8 because our luxury sedan has already gone through a substantial part of its model life cycle," Audi Technical Development boss Hans-Joachim Rothenpieler told Automotive News Europe.

All other current production vehicles, including a forthcoming new flagship from Lexus, offer Level 2 autonomy, which provides assistance but requires the driver to remain in control of the vehicle at all times.

Audi had expected the A8 would be the first production car to have the eyes-off conditional autonomy available to private customers. (Waymo launched its Level 4 robocar taxi service Waymo One in Phoenix in December 2018, but this driverless technology is not available commercially).

The setback for Audi means it could end up trailing its its German rivals, if they keep their promises to launch Level 3 or higher systems in this new-generation Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedan due this year and the BMW iNEXT crossover due in 2021.

Rothenpieler cited problems getting regulatory approval for the Traffic Jam Pilot, which when operating would automatically transfer liability in the event of an accident from the driver to the manufacturer.

"Currently, there is no legal framework for Level 3 automated driving and it is not possible to homologate such functions anywhere in the world in a series production car," Rothenpieler said.

Audi initially planned for Traffic Jam Pilot to have restricted functionality, only capable of use on highways separated from oncoming traffic at speeds of up to 60 kph (37 mph). While the benefit may seem limited, drivers would no longer be responsible at all for operating the vehicle during periods of heavy, stop-and-go traffic, leaving them free to read, stream a movie or play video games as the vehicle drove itself.

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This image shows how the A8's Level 3 autonomous system was supposed to tell the driver to take back control.

Thus far all current systems on the market such as Tesla’s Autopilot and Super Cruise from General Motors are Level 2. At best, they are able to steer themselves, but require the driver to monitor the surroundings constantly and be prepared at a moment’s notice to assume control. Liability remains firmly with the individual behind the wheel.

Sources close to Audi told Automotive News Europe that corporate lawyers in particular have been critical of any Level 3 system, warning Audi executives that there are no guarantees customers would properly service the vehicle. Should an accident then occur while the car is piloting itself, Audi would be liable even if the system was still 99.9 percent safe at the time it was delivered to the customer.

In its annual 10-K regulatory filing to the SEC, Tesla attested to the problems. The U.S. electric automaker warned of the “likelihood of a patchwork of complex or conflicting regulations” that could delay or limit its full self-driving system, due to be launched at some point in the future, according to the company.

Automakers such as Volvo Cars consider the Level 3 driving mode "unsafe" and will "skip this level of autonomous driving,” CEO Hakan Samuelsson has said.

Rothenpieler agreed that the complications were significant obstacles on the way to even limited, eyes-off conditional autonomy. Therefore, Audi's focus has shifted to improving Level 2 driver-assistance systems that do not transfer any legal responsibility for the vehicle’s operation to the manufacturer at all.

Said Rothenpieler: “The euphoria in the auto industry around Level 3 has subsided substantially.
 
Luca. Why did you quoted me "old info "concerning the definitive headlights of the eqs?
I've chequed hundreds of pictures from eqs prototypes and, for me, this was the first time i saw them.
May be i am wrong.
 

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