Random Thoughts...

[Design FIRST]

My best "brother from another mother" buddy in Munich of my late teens had one of these for a while back in 1971-72:

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He fitted a Stage 1 ABARTH tuning kit to the car (125 PS) ...and it really flew.

 

[Esp5]

The advertising on GCF is completely out of control; it distorts all the posts, hides members' names, and takes up 70% of the screen or more. On a mobile phone, it's practically impossible to understand anything. Is this normal? I've never seen so much of it and in such a disorganized way. Does this happen to others?

 

[Giannis]

The advertising on GCF is completely out of control; it distorts all the posts, hides members' names, and takes up 70% of the screen or more. On a mobile phone, it's practically impossible to understand anything. Is this normal? I've never seen so much of it and in such a disorganized way. Does this happen to others?

Guys, the site costs quite a lot of money to stay alive and its only source of income is these ads. If these ads bother you that much, you can purchase yourself a basic account, which is less than a dollar a month, or a premium account and enjoy the full extent of the site, ad free, with added functions.

More info here: https://www.germancarforum.com/pages/premium_sign_up/

 

[Esp5]

Guys, the site costs quite a lot of money to stay alive and its only source of income is these ads. If these ads bother you that much, you can purchase yourself a basic account, which is less than a dollar a month, or a premium account and enjoy the full extent of the site, ad free, with added functions.

More info here: https://www.germancarforum.com/pages/premium_sign_up/

I mentioned it mainly because it seems like a system failure due to the interface distortion; in any case, the paid account recommendation is good.

 

[Matski]

Driving experience, Isle of Man....

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[GTA45E]

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[WBarnes]

The driver or just the car?

 

[Matski]

Possibly the best looking single car in existence...

 

[Design FIRST]

Glancing through the various Vision BMW ALPINA comments on that dedicated thread, I now realize that I am now in a minority, if not in total isolation, regarding the signature ALPINA striping. Not that I do not simply adore ALPINA's (I most certainly do), but I've always preferred them sans stripes. Should Burkhard, from whichever dimension he may now dwell, be gritting his teeth with rage...so be it.

 

[Matski]

Glancing through the various Vision BMW ALPINA comments on that dedicated thread, I now realize that I am now in a minority, if not in total isolation, regarding the signature ALPINA striping. Not that I do not simply adore ALPINA's (I most certainly do), but I've always preferred them sans stripes. Should Burkhard, from whichever dimension he may now dwell, be gritting his teeth with rage...so be it.

The more they've tried to minimise them, the worse they've got IMHO - though the B6 GT3 livered B3 GT3 road car wasn't to my taste. They did try and reinvent the stripe motif a little a while ago, but it never caught on, I've only seen this style on two cars...

It's a long standing joke with a friend that if I ever find myself in a tattoo parlour, I'll be getting my own Alpina stripes.

 

[Esp5]

Glancing through the various Vision BMW ALPINA comments on that dedicated thread, I now realize that I am now in a minority, if not in total isolation, regarding the signature ALPINA striping. Not that I do not simply adore ALPINA's (I most certainly do), but I've always preferred them sans stripes. Should Burkhard, from whichever dimension he may now dwell, be gritting his teeth with rage...so be it.

You're not alone; although I love the lines, I think this new approach to subtlety is also valid, since it doesn't need to shout it from the rooftops, being a unique Alpina bespoke design by birth.
In the derivative models, it's more understandable.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Another collegue going back from BEV (Audi GT RS) to ICE (BMW M5 Touring).

 

[Swissbob]

Another collegue going back from BEV (Audi GT RS) to ICE (BMW M5 Touring).

Congratulations excellent choice

I am still very happy with my decision. ( e-tron 55 to G63).

 

[GTA45E]

4-year depreciation estimates for gas-powered versions of these luxury sedans: BMW 7-Series, Mercedes S-Class, Genesis G80, Lexus LS, Audi A8 for the used premium car market here in the US. This is just a quick rundown. There are other sources to consider.


Data primarily comes from iSeeCars analyses (based on millions of vehicles), supplemented by KBB and CarEdge. Exact 4-year figures aren't always published, so I've estimated them by interpolating between 3-year and 5-year data (depreciation is front-loaded, so the 4-year mark is typically closer to the 5-year figure than a perfect linear split).

Key Takeaways

• Lexus LS wins easily on value retention — often 10–20+ percentage points better than the Germans. Lexus reliability and lower volume help.
• Genesis G80 performs surprisingly well, beating the German trio on depreciation while offering strong value.
• The German flagships (BMW 7, Mercedes S, Audi A8) depreciate the most aggressively, often losing half their value in 4–5 years. High initial prices, rapid tech/ styling changes, and high maintenance contribute.
• Real-world numbers vary based on mileage (aim for ~12–15k/year), condition, options, location, and market conditions.

Sources for these figures include iSeeCars resale studies, KBB depreciation data, and CarEdge projections. Actual results for your specific car could differ — check KBB/Edmunds for local quotes. If you want data for a specific model year or more details (e.g., MSRP vs. resale examples), let me know!

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[Matski]

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Grok? So you're into Kiddieporn? Interesting.

 

[GTA45E]

^Excuse me? Comments like this shouldn't be posted on the fourm. What does that have to do with whats posted. Absolutely nothing. Posting thoughts on car depreciation should never lead to personal insults. Insults eduals butthurt.