R63 AMG Vs. ML63 AMG

[PanterroR]

1st of all there definitely wasn't any good reason in a health man's mind to produce the 63 AMG version of the R class. You all MB lovers, tell me, what's the purpose of a 7 seat vehicle wiht 510hp engine under the hood? What? BS! That car is nothing, that car shouldn't have seen the light of the day, afaic.

AMG or not, the R class is by far the ugliest MB of today, followed by A class and.... Errr, i guess you know... Even the small B class looks million times better than that ugly pos.

No offense, folks, but in Tycoon's opinion, the R class is the worst and biggest project/product of MB. Maybe the sales will show different and i maybe sound stupid, but R is not an MB for me.

 

[Kleemann_SL]

Yea yea yea! This is a family car that looks nice. And has an amazing, very fresh interior and very very comfortable seats. A family car shouldnt look like an SLR or a CLK-DTM. I would choose it over every monovolume car.

 

[Kleemann_SL]

 

[Alx]

That pic looks really good! Thanks Kleeman SL.

 

[wltsm]

I prefer the ML 63 because it is a better looking car IMO, it has a nicer interior and because SUVs are cooler than MPVs!

 

[BMWCool]

R63 or ML63? basically its R or ML for me, I don't like either of them but if I had to choose I get ML cauze it's a truck and the R is a Minivan!

 

[GrimReaper]

For all you people commenting that the ML looks like the Kia Sorento, I just need to point out that the new ML is more of an evolution from the older ML rather than a complete redesgin. They have just made it more aggressive and more powerful (especially with the AMG package).

For all those of you asking why would you need a 500 bhp 'truck', I ask why would you need the Lambo LM002? It's basically the same thing and I don't see you people critisizing the Porsche (though some of you may have I can't vouch for that ). People can't really drive sports cars all the time. My dad likes SUV's and prefers quick ones when we go on trips to our summer homes. Its much much more better going in a fast SUV than a 4 door E55/RS6/M5 which don't really offer the same practicality.

 

[Yperion]

ML63 for me. R class is ugly. The second uglier Mercedes after CLS IMO.

http://www.motoweb.pl/tapety/pictures/normal/mercedes_r_2005_1.jpg

BTW why Mercedes is using those aweful side mirrors?Their shape makes them look 10 years old.

 

[warot]

The front lights of the R class kills me each time I see it.

 

[Alx]

i saw an R class today, looked nice fromt he front, profile... not really nice, but overall it was a good design for the car!

 

[GTA45E]

Ah... The Sorento niche! Exactly!

For those who never saw a Kia sorento..





Amazing, isnt it!

Lets get realistic here. I believe the new ML is an evolution on the old one.

Ferthermore I don`t understand why these vehicles are being compared to each other. MB would never create two cars in the same class that would compete against each other.

 

[Deutsch]

I agree GTA, and what kind of comparo is this? Better use of space would be E55 wagon vs. ML63.

 

[SDNR]

Very few things i like about the new ML. And even fewer i like about the R class. But i think overall the R63 looks a bit better, and has more use as an SUV like vehicle as far as roomier and more space for usage, an not as bulky, sleek and sporty.

I completely agree with you Alex. I personally think the ML63's front bumpers are unbelievably ugly and the R class strangely reminds me of the PT cruiser.

 

[SDNR]

No offense, folks, but in Tycoon's opinion, the R class is the worst and biggest project/product of MB. Maybe the sales will show different and i maybe sound stupid, but R is not an MB for me.

Well Tyc, I wouldn't worry to much about it, the R class was designed in the US, is built in the US, and will be predominantly bought by Americans - I doubt very much that it will be anywhere near as popular in Europe - I'm not sure about Asia.

BTW - why the hell do Mercedes need the B class when they have the R class - is there really much difference in size?

 

[warot]

Well Tyc, I wouldn't worry to much about it, the R class was designed in the US, is built in the US, and will be predominantly bought by Americans - I doubt very much that it will be anywhere near as popular in Europe - I'm not sure about Asia.

BTW - why the hell do Mercedes need the B class when they have the R class - is there really much difference in size?

It's more of an A class size... so what's the point of the A and B then?

 

[GTA45E]

Well Tyc, I wouldn't worry to much about it, the R class was designed in the US, is built in the US,

Thats wrong!!
The R was designed in Germany, it`s designer is also German.

His name is: Gordon Wagener (thats Vagener in German)

I voted for the ML63 BTW, it`s simply more sporty and might have better snow capablities which I would need cause I love the snow!

 

[Merc1]

Well Tyc, I wouldn't worry to much about it, the R class was designed in the US, is built in the US, and will be predominantly bought by Americans - I doubt very much that it will be anywhere near as popular in Europe - I'm not sure about Asia.

BTW - why the hell do Mercedes need the B class when they have the R class - is there really much difference in size?

I think the short-wheelbase R will be more popular in Europe than the long wheelbase R will be here in the U.S. So far the R isn't selling too well here.

M

 

[SDNR]

That's intriguing Merc1 - it's not a bad car at all, just not for me.

 

[Top Secret]

1st of all there definitely wasn't any good reason in a health man's mind to produce the 63 AMG version of the R class. You all MB lovers, tell me, what's the purpose of a 7 seat vehicle wiht 510hp engine under the hood? What? BS!

Well, if I'm not mistaken, the ML63 AMG is also available with a seven-seat option, so that argument is thrown out the window.

But anyway, weird comparo, but I can kind of see the reasoning behind this - both are big, family-orientated, performance cars, but with different results. You should have put an E55 Wagon just to make the choice that much harder!

But anyway, I'm not a fan of the ML. It's really 'nothing special'. I saw one the other day and I only realised it was the new one about a minute later. Plus, I'm not really a fan of the whole 'performance SUV' market, so that further adds to the cons associated with the ML.

The R-Class on the other hand - after a difficult start, I'm slowly grown to like the design. It's still a minivan, but it looks good. The interior looks excellent and the large room it has benefits the whole family. But the main attraction of this car is the fact that it's so powerful, yet it's still a minivan. I'm a sucker for high-performance cars that aren't a sedan or a coupe, hence the reason why this car is so attractive in my eyes. Pointless? Yes. Expensive? Yes.

But oh-so cool.

 

[PanterroR]

Well, if I'm not mistaken, the ML63 AMG is also available with a seven-seat option, so that argument is thrown out the window.

I'm not sure if there is that option, but in any case the ML still remains the SUV, while R is a VAN! My point is that there was no need to produce a 510hp VAN!