Comparison tests Porsche 918 vs McLaren P1 vs LaFerrari

[Emu]

Another one:


The 918 and la ferrari were very evenly matched . In short , which ones faster depends on the track . It was wet in places and a real challenge .Perhaps stupidly I drove with all driving aids switched off .The car is very very knife edged to drive like this . I span at least 8 times , I don't mean a wee slide here and there I mean full blown 360 and more . The torque and power is savage .
Then we went out together with the la ferrari . The 918 destroys it out of corners , I wasn't able to capitalise on this as I would soon get stuck in traffic allowing the LF to catch up again . I couldn't bully may way past either side like on an RMA day and a lot of the traffic was far too inconsistent to risk anything . The car is stable if driven with care and respect but does not suffer fools gladly ( in the freezing cold and wet on cups at least ...). I couldn't use full acceleration and the 918s biggest advantage ( HARD braking into the apex, to then be fired out by hotlap mode ) yet still managed to hold position. My tyres started to go off and Unfortunately I had an incident going into Eu rouge that put me well off . I braked hard and the car slid forward , 350 miles into the cars life and first ever trackday , I don't mind telling you it was a rush but it was scary and that bought things to an end. I believe the la ferrari is noticeably faster at the top end . 918 better into , around and out of corners . In the dry it would be very interesting . Unfortunately we didn't go out again . Id love to track it against a p1 , anyone know an owner ?

Then The Colonel arrived in the Carrera gt and in the pouring rain , I took out the carrera gt and immediately remembered what true love is . Yes they ( 918 , p1 , la ferrari) are so much faster , so much more comfortable and in the case of the 918 so better looking and better built but nothing compares to the fury of a Carrera GT . The car was so violent so sideways, the scream bought everyone to the pit wall and her antics on track had the marshals clapping( imagine that in the uk) . Its such a raw , violent , undiluted driving experience .

The real issue was that once the la ferrari went home I was all alone . Then the 918 was too fast , too capable , too exciting . The track became an obstacle course of mobile chicanes and a road car with 900 hp and over 1000torques , with no race suit , fire extinguisher , roll cage , tank bag and with road tyres and aero meant that for the first time in my life I though "if I crash now they will find bits of me in Bermuda". Its shatteringly fast . In short you can't interact with other cars in these new hypercars , they are so much faster than supercars that you drive around alone , at your own pace . The carrera gt has been caught up by cars and still represents a challenge .

The carrera GT did all the driving on day 2 against a gaggle of allegedly faster cars ( GT2/RS/12C/Cup cars, aston race cars ,radicals , ultimas, you name it) . Everyone that experienced its fury from the passenger seat was blown away , she is the love of my life , a challenge that rewards like no other , a katana in a world of fire arms , a more elegant way of doing violence . The Dragon howled round the racetrack with another yellow yellow Carrera GT , a truly life affirming experience . I will never forget the howling , it still rings hauntingly in my ears now days later .

In short for my purpose the 918 is the supreme hypercer . A superfast , really exiting road car that can tour , drag race and track day with the best of them . Yet the comfort is shocking , you can genuinely tour europe ( one tank from spa to home in the uk with 70 miles to go in the tank) , the phone , sat nav , sound system electric seats are unsurpassed . I can take the roof off . I imagine racing a classic at Spa and driving the 918 over in the sun with the roofs off , enjoying the back roads with Bach pouring like liquid gold from the Burmester sound system . HEAVEN ON EARTH . The supreme do it all car for Porsche lovers and a fitting addition to the Carrera GT , not a replacement an addition . Im sure the La ferarri and P1 are the same to their owners .

The Carrera GT is the lost Le mans Race Car , betrayed by rule changes and banished into the dark . A warrior without a war . An anachronism , able to exult and elate the devoted yet brutally , mercilessly , punish the unbeliever . It becomes part of you, she talks to you , threatens and whispers to you , urges you to acts of valour and rewards with elation and exultation almost beyond belief .

99 per cent of the time one would choose the 918 spyder , la ferrari or p1 over the Carrera GT but on that one drive , the no holds barred purely for fun , knife edged drive , when a stereo is an insult , Bach a heretic and comfort a thing undreamed of the Carrera GT shines . It howls at you and challenges you to take its key .
Its such a special machine that machine doesn't do it justice , I swear its a living sentient being with her own lusts and furies .

So for me the winner of the La Ferrari vs the 918 vs the P1 is the Carrera GT , some of the time .

Source:
http://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-supercars-carrera-gt-918-960/865204-la-ferrari-918-spyder-and-carrera-gt-at-spa.html

I thought the LaF was better on high speed corners too. Did the 918 have a passenger?

 

[Emu]

Good grief you don't half post complete conjecture. The SOLE reason the Stig was disguised from the outset was because of the difficulties in getting the same driver for filming each and every week when they have other commitments, and it would put their lap times into question if it was a different driver each time. So whilst there has been a regular "Stig" for each series, there are times when he has to have a stand in, whether that be Perry McCarthy, Ben Collins or whoever. is the "regular" driver.

Well it's nice to have the racing driver silenced to concentrate him on lap times, rather than subjective drivel.

 

[Mafalda]

Sadly he's pulled out of the next Vmax at short notice. Maybe he got a phone call from the polite people of Maranello.

http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/mclaren-p1-f1/21713-p1-vs-918-a-33.html#post609458

this is an opionion (or hope...) of yours

 

[Emu]

this is an opionion (or hope...) of yours

Well it would look mighty strange when a car quoted at 9.6s@157mph and 0-300kph in 15.0s wasn't significantly faster than a car quoted at 9.8s@152mph and 0-300kph in 16.5s.

 

[Giannis]

Good grief you don't half post complete conjecture. The SOLE reason the Stig was disguised from the outset was because of the difficulties in getting the same driver for filming each and every week when they have other commitments, and it would put their lap times into question if it was a different driver each time. So whilst there has been a regular "Stig" for each series, there are times when he has to have a stand in, whether that be Perry McCarthy, Ben Collins or whoever. is the "regular" driver.

Actually, this is verified by the Stig himself, Ben Collins, in his book.

 

[Emu]

Not relevant to this thread though.

Good grief you don't half post complete conjecture.

So do magazines, hence my point. E.g. CAR Magazine. Test two 900hp cars on the side of a cliff, where you can't possible take either to its limit, then complain about understeer. It reminds a lot of how I used to do my book reviews when I hadn't read the book. Read the synopsis on the back and make up some BS to go with it.

 

[Emu]

It's true. The owner posted it on mclife.

That doesn't really make something true. E.g. citylad/Apolo1 also posts stuff on McLife.

 

[Emu]

True, the owner is the same of VMax dragrace

He's pulled out of the next one where there was going to be a P1-918-LaF showdown.

http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/mclaren-p1-f1/21713-p1-vs-918-a-33.html#post609458

My car won't be at VMAX, it's being shipped back to it's birthplace so I can meet up at Fiorano with my two friends who are taking delivery of their LaF's and we are driving back across Europe to do what all petrolheads love, enjoying their cars, the company, the wine, and the epic roads - regardless of laptimes and trap speeds!!

 

[Betty Swollocks]

It reminds a lot of how I used to do my book reviews when I hadn't read the book. Read the synopsis on the back and make up some BS to go with it.

Really? That doesn't sound like you at all.

 

[Monster]

OK guys..moving on.

 

[Mafalda]

OK guys..moving on.

 

[Emu]

Really? That doesn't sound like you at all.

I leave it to CAR Magazine these days.

 

[ajjers]

Is it me or the more P3 the P1 becomes the more belligerent Emu gets?

Carry on.

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[Emu]

Who's P3? I see the P1 in P1 on most tracks and the 918 and LaF people making tyre excuses and arguing about how the P1 isn't really P1 and trying to include damp laps with different drivers until the Spa videos came out, then they don't want to include damp laps anymore. With the 918 holding up the LaF all the way around Spa.

 

[ajjers]

Who's P3? I see the P1 in P1 on most tracks and the 918 and LaF people making tyre excuses and arguing about how the P1 isn't really P1 and trying to include damp laps with different drivers until the Spa videos came out, then they don't want to include damp laps anymore. With the 918 holding up the LaF all the way around Spa.

Loving it Emu. Don't you go a changin'!

 

[Emu]

Loving it Emu. Don't you go a changin'!

Don't worry, I won't. Always P1 on dry laps with a correctly functional car.

http://www.vmax200.com/results/

1 NINE EXCELLENCE 996 TURBO 9EXX - The Viking 229
2 SVM NISSAN GTR ‘GUNDAM - John Graham 228.8
3 9FF GTR9 - Jan Fatthauer 222
4 9E17 9EXCELLENCE - Ken Napier 215
5 RUF RT12 - Leon Samonas 211
= 9FF 997 CAB - Jan Fatthauer
= KOENIGSEGG CCX - Oli Webb
6 PORSCHE NINE EXCELLENCE 9EGT2 - Dave Matthews 210
7 997 GT2 3.9 - Toby Baxendell 209
= MCLAREN P1 - Paul Bailey
8 RS TUNING 997 GT2 - Toby Baxendell 208
9 RUF RT12 - Leon Samonas 207
= RUF CTR3 - Leon Samonas
= SVM NISSAN QASHQAI - Team SVM
= FERRARI LAFERRARI - Matt Munson
= BUGATTI VEYRON - Mr I
10 MONARO - Jez Sang 206
= RUF GT2 - Guy R
= UV CTR 964 TURBO - James Elson (RIP)
= 9E700 996TT

 

[ajjers]

Come on man, don't let the side down. Everyone knows the P1 at Vmax wasn't functioning properly, else it was it would have done 250mph! And of course the runway was only 250m when the P1 ran, compared to 5miles for everyone else.

 

[ajjers]

Well the holy trinity has arrived at Bruntingthorpe. Along with a bunch of Koenigseggs

 

[Emu]

Come on man, don't let the side down. Everyone knows the P1 at Vmax wasn't functioning properly, else it was it would have done 250mph! And of course the runway was only 250m when the P1 ran, compared to 5miles for everyone else.

Same runway.

 

[Emu]

Well the holy trinity has arrived at Bruntingthorpe. Along with a bunch of Koenigseggs

Koenigseggs will win, close call between P1 and LaF for second and third. 918 in P-last.

What's the weather like down there? No mind, just looked, it says, "showers in the vicinity, cloudy and windy," so typical British weather.