5 Series (G60) [Official] The New BMW 5 Series (G60)

[AbsoluteUnit]

I should also point out that details can also get crushed depending on the video bitrate on whichever platform its hosted on, or whichever format they encoded the video in. The greater the compression, the lower the bitrate, and usually the lesser the detail in what we see in the video.

 

[Hahn]

I understand, it's possible I may be wrong, but the material really looks and feels like leather, and not cheap at all. Very soft and 'comfortable' to the touch...

Yes top part is not leather but plastic. also top of the dash is not leather. You can not even spec it with some package.

 

[SKY]

Yes top part is not leather but plastic. also top of the dash is not leather. You can not even spec it with some package.

So much for our impartial experts here. Can’t even recognize leather.

Thanks for the info!

 

[dalab]

No room for discussion? Typical and says it all.

Your previous comment left no room for discussion, - "the video is the worst etc", - and that is not the case, they have the best cameras, lighting and shot criteria, pro level, I direct commercials and I know what I'm talking about, they have praised by many people many times for the same thing here and arguing that would be wasting your time and mine because what you said sounded more like "since the car looks good there, the video must have tricks, this and that wrong"

 

[klier]

Leather is on it's way out anyways. Good riddance too.

 

[dalab]

No room for discussion? Typical and says it all.

Your previous comment left no room for discussion, - "the video is the worst etc", - and that is not the case, they have the best cameras, lighting and shot criteria, pro level, I direct commercials and I know what I'm talking about, they have praised by many people many times for the same thing here and arguing that would be wasting your time and mine because what you said sounded more like "since the car looks good there, the video must have tricks, this and that wrong"

I should also point out that details can also get crushed depending on the video bitrate on whichever platform its hosted on, or whichever format they encoded the video in. The greater the compression, the lower the bitrate, and usually the lesser the detail in what we see in the video.

I don't understand, you criticize a video because it is well done and the car looks good? lighting, camera exposure, location and color, that's it, I don't know what you're talking about about bits and compression and so on?, nothing to do with it, today everyone gives their opinion without knowing
What seems to bother you is that the car looks good, nothing less, nothing more

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Your previous comment left no room for discussion, - "the video is the worst etc", - and that is not the case, they have the best cameras, lighting and shot criteria, pro level, I direct commercials and I know what I'm talking about, they have praised by many people many times for the same thing here and arguing that would be wasting your time and mine because what you said sounded more like "since the car looks good there, the video must have tricks, this and that wrong"

I didn’t comment on the video @dalab
But never mind and forget my remark about ‘typical’ etc. I was in grumpy old man modus this morning.

 

[dalab]

Leather is on it's way out anyways. Good riddance too.

Coherence will triumph in the end (I hope).
If the fight is which material is sustainable, the artificially derived and manufactured one or the one from natural waste as a usable byproduct of responsible and organic livestock farming, the answer is a no brainer.
It happens that those who come to govern in this and next generation are also non-brainers.

*Most of the high quality leather used in automobiles today and historically comes from my country Uruguay and from Argentina, especially for BMW and Mercedes, also for the (more expensive and better quality) leather clothing in Europe and the USA, I personally know two of the exporters, who are very rich lol

When Microsoft advisors began to repeat the atrocities (without foundation) that abounded on the social networks and Bill Gates himself began to defend "3D printing of meat" based on that, they were invited by my government to come and see before speaking.
They came and had to keep their mouths shut, as you see everything is a "story" of an ignorant generation that speaks before thinking or knowing

Sorry for the length, but I think it is valid and important to highlight it

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Leather is on it's way out anyways. Good riddance too.

It’s not on the way out, but I’d be interested in some high quality cloth alternatives. Not leather look-a-like materials like that veganza in BMW or Artico MB has been using.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I don't understand, you criticize a video because it is well done and the car looks good? lighting, camera exposure, location and color, that's it, I don't know what you're talking about about bits and compression and so on?, nothing to do with it, today everyone gives their opinion without knowing

Stop taking it so personally, its just a bloody car.

One that is in my personal opinion massively overdesigned, to the point where an all-black version is the best its managed to look because it hides all of the overdesigned elements.

The stuff about the image quality is secondary. Because I think that the video doesn't accurately represent what the car will look like in person.

What seems to bother you is that the car looks good, nothing less, nothing more

Enough with the self-righteous bleating.
That does not at all mean that I don't like that it looks good. As I've said before this is the best this car has ever looked.

I think the G60 does not look as good as any of its predecessors. It looks different in a way that is not good. It looks better than the 7er and the iX and the XM, but those aren't high bars to clear. I will never like the way this looks. To me the M-sport F10 remains the best looking modern BMW.

 

[klier]

It’s not on the way out, but I’d be interested in some high quality cloth alternatives. Not leather look-a-like materials like that veganza in BMW or Artico MB has been using.

Yes it very much is. At most you'll get artificial replacements for the die hards.

 

[dalab]

Stop taking it so personally, its just a bloody car.

Nothing personal, I'm just refuting your comments in the video from my humble knowledge of the subject.

One that is in my personal opinion massively overdesigned, to the point where an all-black version is the best its managed to look because it hides all of the overdesigned elements.

I respect your personal view of the vehicle, I agree that BMWs have always looked good in black, it is also a matter of taste.

I think that the video doesn't accurately represent what the car will look like in person.

To establish that for yourself, maybe you should just wait to see it in person.

 

[Matski]

If the fight is which material is sustainable, the artificially derived and manufactured one or the one from natural waste as a usable byproduct of responsible and organic livestock farming, the answer is a no brainer.

Not to say that it isn't just sensible to use leather in some instances, but the fact something is a by-product doesn't remove its impact, it just shifts the responsibility for the impact to the user rather than the producer. Instead of the cattle farmer having to dispose of the skin after slaughter, it falls to the person disposing of the car, and while it can be repurposed to a degree, it isn't recyclable in the way something like Polyester is.

From Uruguay and Argentina's point of view, of course it's a no brainer to be able to sell a by-product... free money... but from the car companies perspective it's just more unrecycled, unrecyclable material in the car.

Life Cycle Assessment for i5 eDrive40 attached, mentions leather-free as a positive but it's not granular enough to really show why.

 

[Gamblerman]

 

[Gianclaudio]

I should also point out that details can also get crushed depending on the video bitrate on whichever platform its hosted on, or whichever format they encoded the video in. The greater the compression, the lower the bitrate, and usually the lesser the detail in what we see in the video.

It seems to me, they maxed out the black point slider in the video editing. That's why there's no texture nor detail to be seen on bodywork, for example.
Or how black is even "bleeding" into the glowing head and tail lights.

Two pics for comparison: unedited and the other with just black point adjusted to max (or min, depending on your software):

Sadly, we've come to a period where delusion and denial is so pathetic, so absurd; as to contradict what our eyes see (or know, in case of anyone who has used an editing software)

 

[dalab]

I have been directing and editing for 20 years - broadcast
A couple of shots have saturation, (exteriors natural light) well done and well placed, nothing more, (interiors inside the garage had nothing), it has no influence on what the car is, but how it looks good it's the fault of special effects...what a nonsense, my god.

Pathetic is trying to establish truths that do not exist by force, force of haters

 

[SCOTT27]

 

[Jonathan19]

Little news : New Series 5 Touring will be show Feb 7th 2024.

 

[SCOTT27]

The i5 Driving now in Lisbon. With the i7 M70.

 

[SCOTT27]

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