Fortwo/Forfour [Official] Smart ForTwo & ForFour

[lukeswiss]

are they going to launch a new roadster soon?

I very much doubt it... unfortunately.

 

[lukeswiss]

Looks like it has the same coloured welcome lights as the new C-Class... just not in the LED.

 

[Rolf]

I like this.

In this colour scheme it looks great, the interior is the best aspect of this car, funky, stylish, colorful and high tech and will attract the youngsters for sure! I would love one of these for driving around the city! Easy to park, fits in tight spaces, nippy, economical and stylish!

 

[lukeswiss]

From thesmartclub ltd

 

[Giannis]

So the new one, unlike the previous generation, can be ordered with a manual gearbox. Interesting.

 

[lukeswiss]

^Might be the best move they ever made, the old gearbox was annoying, even the Brabus tuned one.

 

[Centurion]

^Might be the best move they ever made, the old gearbox was annoying, even the Brabus tuned one.

What was it's short comings? Jerky shifts or simply slow reaction when trying to take off quickly in city traffic?

 

[lukeswiss]

The semi-automatic. It was slow between gear changes, so if you drove the car in the automatic mode, and didn't release the accelerator between gear changes it would result in the nose of the car kinda tipping down. Kinda nodding all the time. You get used to it... and learn how to drive with it, but it doesn't feel normal, as you would need to predict the gear changes and release a bit.

The best way was to drive it like a manual and release the accelerator during shifts.

 

[Centurion]

The semi-automatic. It was slow between gear changes, so if you drove the car in the automatic mode, and didn't release the accelerator between gear changes it would result in the nose of the car kinda tipping down. Kinda nodding all the time. You get used to it... and learn how to drive with it, but it doesn't feel normal, as you would need to predict the gear changes and release a bit.

The best way was to drive it like a manual and release the accelerator during shifts.

That's the flip-side of automatic gearboxes: in luxury cars they can be brilliant but in entry level cars they are often underdeveloped and do the bare minimum to manage the engine. In an entry level car like the SMART, a manual transmission since it's cheaper for the manufacturer and buyers in the segment already expect a manual transmission anyways. Some people might argue that a slow automatic isn't a deal breaker in a city car, but when you are in busy traffic you sometimes need speedy gear changes to over another car or to squeeze into a faster lane.

 

[molotow]

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[lukeswiss]

^At 3mins he talks about the noddy effect in the old one, caused by the transmission.

 

[molotow]

This guy is so funny

 

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[Rainer271]

smart Future Plans: fortwo and forfour cabrios, EVs and Brabus Versions

Thanks to a partnership with French carmaker Renault, Daimler has revived the smart brand with not one but two brand new A-segment vehicles revealed at once. However, the fortwo and forfour are only the beginning of what's to come.

According to recently released report from Australian magazine Motoring, both the fortwo and forfour will have several spinoff models, including convertibles. Both the two-door fortwo and the four-door forfour will have them. The larger of the two won't actually be a convertible, offering a retractable folding fabric roof instead.

This is hardly a scoop though, as the press photos released last week revealed this model's existence. Neither is it a surprise that Brabus version of these cars have been approved. Earlier today, we showed you the first Brabus fortwo prototype, which had double exhaust, lowered suspension and bigger wheels.

As was the case with the outgoing model, electric propulsion will be offered. A long wheelbase model is also apparently coming under the trademarked "formore" name. smart has never offered such a car before, but it could be better suited to the demands of American and Chinese customers.

Speaking of things that haven't been done before, a small SUV or crossover vehicle could be introduced by smart some time in the future. However, unlike the two city cars, Daimler will have a harder time developing the chassis, since Renault will not be involved.

"In a few years we will have on the new platform the cabriolet and EV fortwo. This will happen in the near future, and only then we will have a look at new product in our range," smart design director Kai Sieber told the aforementioned Australian magazine during the launch event in Berlin.

smart Future Plans: fortwo and forfour cabrios, EVs and Brabus Versions

 

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[Wolfgang]

Amazingly MB Passion went all the way from Germany to Portugal to report those first impressions from smart times 2014.

Daimler just uploaded the press release:

smart times 2014 in Cascais: 2,380 smart fans celebrate in the Portuguese sun

Stuttgart/Cascais. From 17 to 19 July 2014 2,380 smart fans from 31 countries gathered on the beach in Portugal to celebrate the largest international smart event worldwide. The heart of the town of Cascais wasn't just the venue for numerous smart programme items from test drives to the smart parade – it was also the starting point for excursions to the surrounding region for more than 800 smart enthusiasts: from Figueirinha beach to the most western point in Europe.

Programme à la smart – Party à la Portugal

At the invitation of Carlos Karriere, Mayor of Cascais, the event started on Thursday with a free BBQ on the town's own beach. And in the following days attendees enjoyed test drives with the latest smart models, the popular smart times car contest, smart tuners and exhibitors from across Europe, and relaxing on the sun deck with a view of the Atlantic. For the little guests there was a children's play area right on the beach.

From the street to the beach – smart times on Saturday

The smart times parade, which has long since become legendary, started on the former Formula 1 racing track "Circuito de Estoril". And it kicked off with a lap of honour for all smart forfour drivers to mark the 10th birthday of the four-seater. 1,427 smarts then cruised through the Estoril region towards Cascais where a beach party awaited them. smart ebikes were also included in the parade. Later, at the beach party the winners of the eight categories of the smart times contest were honoured on stage amidst lots of cheering.

From the beach to the city – smart times 15 in Hungary

There was a further exciting highlight at the farewell party on Saturday night. At around 11 p.m. the venue for next year, which had previously been kept strictly secret, was revealed: smart times 15 will take place from 28 to 30 August 2015 in Budapest, Hungary – in the direct vicinity of Heldenplatz. Participants can register now at www.smarttimes15.com.

Background information on smart times 13

23 to 25 August 2013,in Buochs near Lucerne, Switzerland
1700 attendees from 24 different nations
1203 smarts in the parade

Source: Daimler

 

[Wolfgang]

2015 Smart ForTwo Brabus spied, could have up to 120 PS
Could be introduced early next year
Smart recently unveiled the 2015 ForTwo and now our spies have snapped photos of the ForTwo Brabus.

Designed to appeal to buyers who want a little more performance, the ForTwo Brabus has a familiar design but adopts a revised grille and what appears to be tinted headlights. The model also has a new rear bumper and a sporty dual exhaust system.

Power will likely be provided by an upgraded version of the turbocharged 0.9-liter three-cylinder engine. It produces 90 PS (66 kW) in the standard model but the Brabus variant could have an output of 110-120 PS (81- 88 kW).

Besides the upgraded engine, we can expect as assortment of other changes including a sport-tuned suspension, beefier brakes and possibility a revised steering system.

2015 Smart ForTwo Brabus spied, could have up to 120 PS

 

[lukeswiss]

That's the one I'd like, as my undercover city car. This thing has really grown on me.