911 (991) [Official] Porsche 911 (991)

[hoffmeister_fan]

recently went to the local Porsche dealer....first thing I noticed about the 991 is that is quite bigger than the 997.5. But almost immediately what I noticed next is how beautiful this car is. It was in Aqua Blue Metallic with the spoiler popped up and 20" Carrera Classic wheels with gray interior. Honestly, not a single line was wasted on this car, it was stunning. I was just staring at it for 5 minutes taking it all in. Then I sat in the car, i just did not want to get out. Everything was perfectly within reach and rather comfortable. However, I'm not a fan of gray interiors, too drab for me.

I WANT this car.

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Porsche's new Promo:

 

[Merc1]

Love it.


M

 

[Cashmere]

Porsche Commercials > *

 

[vedjo01]

..and "some" say money cant buy happines..yeah,RIGHT

 

[Sunny]

At last some details about the 7 speed manual.

A Tale of Two Porsche Seven-Speeds: Manual and PDK - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

 

[martinbo]

Finally, awesome. Now, it all pans out as I expected but I still want to learn about how that actual gear selection kinematics work. What does this mean:

Credit ZF engineer Dr. Michael Ebenhoch with inventing the twofer shift kinematics.

?

Is it a purely mechanical link like in traditional manual 'boxes or is the sime kind of electronic/hydraulic actuation?

 

[Sunny]

Is it a purely mechanical link like in traditional manual 'boxes or is the sime kind of electronic/hydraulic actuation?

Yea I wonder about that too. Googling didn't really turn up anything.

 

[Levi68]

Porsche makes the commercials in the entire car industry. It makes you badly wanting to own a Porsche.

 

[Monteverdi]

2012 Porsche 911 (991) Carrera S Start Up, Exhaust, and In Depth Review

 

[K-A]

Pretty positive that this is gonna be my next car and I'm gonna give the E-Class back after the Lease. Unless I just can't get myself to and/or the 911 loses its luster to me after getting more used to it.

Aside from the engine, what all goes into the differences between a Carrera and Carrera S? Or is it all in the different engines?

My only drawback on this car is safety concerns. The 911 is rather compact, and there's no motor upfront to help absorb frontal impacts. The rear also is lacking in noticeable crush space, and the motor is practically right behind you. You're really putting a lot of faith in Porsche's modern day safety engineering here and how they can optimize that in the 911's extremely unique setup.

 

[donkeykong]

Pretty positive that this is gonna be my next car and I'm gonna give the E-Class back after the Lease. Unless I just can't get myself to and/or the 911 loses its luster to me after getting more used to it.

Aside from the engine, what all goes into the differences between a Carrera and Carrera S? Or is it all in the different engines?

My only drawback on this car is safety concerns. The 911 is rather compact, and there's no motor upfront to help absorb frontal impacts. The rear also is lacking in noticeable crush space, and the motor is practically right behind you. You're really putting a lot of faith in Porsche's modern day safety engineering here and how they can optimize that in the 911's extremely unique setup.

The base 911 has a 3.4 l engine producing 350 hp,and 287 lb.-ft. torque
The 911S has a 3.8l engine that produces 400 horses,and 325 lb.-ft of torque

 

[K-A]

I'd be happy with either, I'd think.

Any differences in Features that come standard, etc.?

 

[Merc1]

K/A please don't start that safety nonsense again. Porsche's cars have proven their safety time and time again. The 911 has to pass the same standards as everything else and Porsche is known to exceed the basic safety standards anyways.


M

 

[K-A]

K/A please don't start that safety nonsense again. Porsche's cars have proven their safety time and time again. The 911 has to pass the same standards as everything else and Porsche is known to exceed the basic safety standards anyways.


M

Safety isn't "nonsense" my friend.

A car passing standards means nothing to me. I wish I could be able to scrutinize the 911's safety merits, however they don't release any.

The issue with the 911 isn't in Porsche's Safety engineering, as I'd assume that to be top notch, considering it's Porsche and considering VAG's wealth of Safety knowledge and robust frames, however, it's in the 911's proportions and nature. Little crush space behind you, and engine right behind you, and a hood with no engine to absorb frontal impacts. I simply "have no idea" about how it would perform in different situations, however assume that Porsche/VAG optimized it as best they can.

Edit: Have 911's proven their Safety records through time? I've never heard anything that necessarily convinces me that they keep safety at a high (or low) priority. The new model is gonna be on a whole new level, anyway, as the 996/997 gens were blueprinted a long time ago.

 

[Merc1]

You're right safety isn't nonsense, but the baseless theories you give cloaked under "concerns" are. Unlike the previous over-ridiculous discussions you've started about safety, you're at reasonable enough to say you have no clue this time. All it takes is one other person to pick up on this discussion and then poof, we have an ridiculous session about which no one knows anything.

You actually just answered your own question. The engine is part of the crush space in the rear of a 911 as it is in the front of every other car. The front of the car is long enough to absorb an impact like any other car. Lots of car use the engine as part of the crush space and then then engine will drop out under the car in a really severe impact.

Years ago when rear impacts were first talked about, only 3 cars passed the first round of testing, Mercedes, Volvo and Porsche. All the rest failed miserably. This was on some TV program when rear impacts were first proposed and it showed how some car makers were ahead of the times, and how all the others were still "researching" the subject.


M

 

[K-A]

That's essentially what I'm speculating about, regards to how that engine reacts behind you when hit. Is it a benefit, considering the rear deck is so short (yet not as short as the 997). Also, I'd love to see the 911 in an IIHS frontal test, to see just how that goes, since I don't think there is an IIHS test with a car with an even similar setup to a 911.

As for the strength of the body shell, that's not even a concern to me, I'm sure Porsche's used some of the most advanced High Strength steels to keep strength up and weight down.

Aside from that, for ME as a potential buyer, I'm a bit paranoid about cars that are shorter than 190" in length. The 911 is shorter than 180" in length! I can make an exception for a 911, however, I think.

 

[donkeykong]

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[SKY]

I´m in Puerto Banus spending a few days and today I´ve seen a 991 Carrera S in black with smoked wheels. It´s the nicest car in the market right now IMO. What a perfect design, what a marvelous sound. The interior was in red with alu.

Simply perfect.

 

[Guibo]

I was under the impression that there is a couple different front fascia's available, however, on the Porsche USA Site they show only the "normal" one. Does anyone know or have any pics of different body kit variations?

USA configurator has 2 kits available. First is SportDesign package ($4990), comprised of a ducktail spoiler and different front fascia (available as stand-alone $2,990 option) from standard..

The Aerokit Cup package ($5990) has more aggressive fascia and wing.