hoffmeister_fan
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^^^That's true, so as soon as you start it up with your left hand, your right hand is free to put the car into gear and zip out, and leaving the other suckers in the dust.
The Porsche 991 is the seventh generation of the Porsche 911 sports car. Predecessor: Porsche 911 (997). Successor: Porsche 911 (992). Production: 2011-2019.
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991 CarreraS full test @ Vairano (quattroruote)
see you tomorrow for full results
Any results?
Mafalda
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991 CarreraS PDK tested with sport exhaust, Sport chrono, Pdcc, Pirelli Pzero and standard brakes
top speed: 304 Kph
0-100 Kph 4.0s
0-160 8.7s
1/4mile 12.0s @ 188 Kph
1 Km 22.0s @ 238.9Kph
100-0(cold) 41.4m
100-0 (warm) 39.9m
200-0 139.3m (-1.13g)
weight: 1,522 Kgs
real Cx: 0.319
vairano handling (dry and sunny, but cold)
1.17: 440
skipad (r=55m): 1.20g (one of the best results ever)
what's good
engine @ high rpm
acceleration
amazing to drive
steer
powerful brakes
good fuel economy
what's not:
PDK: very good, but it has not a real full manual mode
Brakes: 1st brake when cold a bit long
engine: less torque @ low and mid rps than 997
tyres-noise
top speed: 304 Kph
0-100 Kph 4.0s
0-160 8.7s
1/4mile 12.0s @ 188 Kph
1 Km 22.0s @ 238.9Kph
100-0(cold) 41.4m
100-0 (warm) 39.9m
200-0 139.3m (-1.13g)
weight: 1,522 Kgs
real Cx: 0.319
vairano handling (dry and sunny, but cold)
1.17: 440
skipad (r=55m): 1.20g (one of the best results ever)
what's good
engine @ high rpm
acceleration
amazing to drive
steer
powerful brakes
good fuel economy
what's not:
PDK: very good, but it has not a real full manual mode
Brakes: 1st brake when cold a bit long
engine: less torque @ low and mid rps than 997
tyres-noise
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Porsche 911 Carrera S review | Auto Express
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To call the latest Porsche 911 a radical redesign would be a step too far based on the exterior alone, but for the normally reserved Porsche design team, it really is. And there’s good reason for it, because there have been some big changes under the skin.
The new 911 is longer, wider, lower, lighter and more technically advanced than ever, and it promises better ride comfort and a sharper drive. It all made sense when we drove the car abroad, but now we’ve had our first go on the UK’s rough roads.
And the good news is that all the positive things we had to say about the latest version of Porsche’s legendary sports car still hold up. That longer wheelbase and finely tuned suspension settings mean the ride comfort is genuinely impressive. It feels firm, but the bumps in the road are well isolated from the cabin.
The pin-sharp handling of previous 911s is most definitely intact. Turn-in is more instant than it has been before, and the wider track has boosted grip. There’s an element of maturity about the way the 911 corners, too, with the sense it’s far more forgiving than some older versions.
Perhaps the most controversial part of the overhaul is a new electromechanical steering set-up. Some of the more subtle feedback from the steering wheel has been lost, but it’s still the best electrically assisted system we’ve used.
We drove the Carrera S, which is powered by a 400bhp 3.8-litre flat-six, and there really is nothing to complain about. It’s smooth, has plenty of power through the rev-range and the acceleration from 30-60mph in second-gear is exhilarating. Porsche puts the 0-62mph time at 4.5 seconds for our manual-equipped model, but it feels far quicker than that.
The gearbox itself is special because it’s a seven-speed manual, and although most cars sold will be equipped with the PDK semi-auto, the manual is a treat to use. The shift is direct, and has just the right balance between being notchy and light. At one point early in our drive we found seventh when looking for fifth, but soon got used to the layout.
That seventh gear is useful for lowering emissions. Paired with fuel saving technology and a lightweight body, Porsche claims our manual model can return 29.7mpg, while PDK-equipped models are even more economical at 32.5mpg.
So what’s not to like? Well for the purists the steering has lost some of its charm, but we had more to complain about with the wide tyres. At motorway speeds there’s a huge amount of road noise, which seems slightly at odds with the 911’s new-found GT character.
But complaints are few and far between. It’s not the most thrilling 911 ever – not quite anyway – but in terms of all-round ability, the new 991 is leagues ahead of its predecessors.
FIRST OPINION
If anyone was ever going to criticise Porsche for messing with a winning formula it would be with this latest 911. To overhaul the steering and lengthen the wheelbase in such an extreme way was a big risk, but in our eyes, it's one that paid off. There's still more feel through the steering than in a lot of other sports cars, and that longer wheelbase has really done wonders to improve the ride comfort. In nearly every area the 991 is a better car than the 997, and it's going to prove incredibly difficult to beat.
Rating:
To call the latest Porsche 911 a radical redesign would be a step too far based on the exterior alone, but for the normally reserved Porsche design team, it really is. And there’s good reason for it, because there have been some big changes under the skin.
The new 911 is longer, wider, lower, lighter and more technically advanced than ever, and it promises better ride comfort and a sharper drive. It all made sense when we drove the car abroad, but now we’ve had our first go on the UK’s rough roads.
And the good news is that all the positive things we had to say about the latest version of Porsche’s legendary sports car still hold up. That longer wheelbase and finely tuned suspension settings mean the ride comfort is genuinely impressive. It feels firm, but the bumps in the road are well isolated from the cabin.
The pin-sharp handling of previous 911s is most definitely intact. Turn-in is more instant than it has been before, and the wider track has boosted grip. There’s an element of maturity about the way the 911 corners, too, with the sense it’s far more forgiving than some older versions.
Perhaps the most controversial part of the overhaul is a new electromechanical steering set-up. Some of the more subtle feedback from the steering wheel has been lost, but it’s still the best electrically assisted system we’ve used.
We drove the Carrera S, which is powered by a 400bhp 3.8-litre flat-six, and there really is nothing to complain about. It’s smooth, has plenty of power through the rev-range and the acceleration from 30-60mph in second-gear is exhilarating. Porsche puts the 0-62mph time at 4.5 seconds for our manual-equipped model, but it feels far quicker than that.
The gearbox itself is special because it’s a seven-speed manual, and although most cars sold will be equipped with the PDK semi-auto, the manual is a treat to use. The shift is direct, and has just the right balance between being notchy and light. At one point early in our drive we found seventh when looking for fifth, but soon got used to the layout.
That seventh gear is useful for lowering emissions. Paired with fuel saving technology and a lightweight body, Porsche claims our manual model can return 29.7mpg, while PDK-equipped models are even more economical at 32.5mpg.
So what’s not to like? Well for the purists the steering has lost some of its charm, but we had more to complain about with the wide tyres. At motorway speeds there’s a huge amount of road noise, which seems slightly at odds with the 911’s new-found GT character.
But complaints are few and far between. It’s not the most thrilling 911 ever – not quite anyway – but in terms of all-round ability, the new 991 is leagues ahead of its predecessors.
FIRST OPINION
If anyone was ever going to criticise Porsche for messing with a winning formula it would be with this latest 911. To overhaul the steering and lengthen the wheelbase in such an extreme way was a big risk, but in our eyes, it's one that paid off. There's still more feel through the steering than in a lot of other sports cars, and that longer wheelbase has really done wonders to improve the ride comfort. In nearly every area the 991 is a better car than the 997, and it's going to prove incredibly difficult to beat.
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I can't phantom how Porsche have managed to develop an electronic steering rack that is so quick to react and even more superior than a mechanic rack. It just doesn't compute in my head. Stuttgart witchcraft at work just like how the heavy and oversized Panamera manage to pull surreal performance figures out of a hat.
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I want this car SO damn much right now, it's not even funny. It's my #1 I think.
I was under the impression that there is a couple different front fascia's available, however, on the Porsche USA Site they show only the "normal" one. Does anyone know or have any pics of different body kit variations?
I was under the impression that there is a couple different front fascia's available, however, on the Porsche USA Site they show only the "normal" one. Does anyone know or have any pics of different body kit variations?
hoffmeister_fan
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Agreed! Man, Porsche REALLY nails you with the upcharge on Options. The Base price intrigued me.... but after a few "necessary" Options, and I'm not even getting started on the simple fun stuff, I'm looking at $120K or whatever (enough, let's just say).... Ughhhh, gonna have to hope it depreciates just enough I guess. 
I've forever longed for that type of car that I could buy, and just keep, and that will never have me longing for a replacement model, or feel like it's become passe. Any of the cars I've had I feel that a logical person could feel that way about.... however, a 911 is pure timeless and instantly iconic on its own. I feel that I can get a 911, personalize it ever so slightly, and just keep it "forever". I always romanticize having that type of relationship with a car.... this coming from a guy who's bought 5 cars in 3 years.
I've forever longed for that type of car that I could buy, and just keep, and that will never have me longing for a replacement model, or feel like it's become passe. Any of the cars I've had I feel that a logical person could feel that way about.... however, a 911 is pure timeless and instantly iconic on its own. I feel that I can get a 911, personalize it ever so slightly, and just keep it "forever". I always romanticize having that type of relationship with a car.... this coming from a guy who's bought 5 cars in 3 years.
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Me three. The GT3 and Turbo versions will be INSANE!
MoSs
M-Sport Meister
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Nothing major but I think there is an option for a front lip spoiler as shown in the attached pic.
that front lip gives the front a little more aggression. if i get a 911 i would def. add it!
mini_cooper4
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Nice review I want to test drive this car now!
I want to test drive this car now!
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You. The Road. Nothing else.
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specializing in high-performance sports cars, SUVs, and sedans,
headquartered in Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Owned by
Volkswagen AG, it was founded in 1931 by Ferdinand Porsche.
In its early days, Porsche was contracted by the German government
to create a vehicle for the masses, which later became the Volkswagen
Beetle. In the late 1940s, Ferdinand's son Ferry Porsche began
building his car, which would result in the Porsche 356.
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