E-Class (W214) [Official] New Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W214)

[Centurion]

That spec is god sent in video. Classic grille, star ornament, blue exterior and cream leather. You pay for it though but it’s a cut price S-Class.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

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Without doubt, this is the King of it’s class this time around.

 

[MPertz]

Without doubt, this is the King of it’s class this time around.

There's no doubt about it. Mercedes it's sticking to its roots.

 

[dalab]

There's no doubt about it. Mercedes it's sticking to its roots.

It's a romantic way of saying they've been really lazy lately.

 

[SKY]

It's a romantic way of saying they've been really lazy lately.

“that you don't particularly like it I don't think it's called a disadvantage of the car”

 

[Pagani]

I truly wish this classic grille
We’re available across the line. Let AMG have a sportier grille like the latest S Class. Why give up one of the most Mercedes distinguishing features.

 

[klier]

Without doubt, this is the King of it’s class this time around.

It's an ICE dinosaur and we'll see how it fares. FYI, you're the only left who wants to pay for a diesel car. All lease cars, all fleet cars, all company cars...it'll all be ELECTRIC. Something the E class, while gorgeous, is severely lacking.

This would have been an excellent proposition 10 years ago though, I give you that.

 

[Merc1]

“that you don't particularly like it I don't think it's called a disadvantage of the car”

Right. No reference point at all.

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[Mick Briesgau]

It's an ICE dinosaur and we'll see how it fares. FYI, you're the only left who wants to pay for a diesel car. All lease cars, all fleet cars, all company cars...it'll all be ELECTRIC. Something the E class, while gorgeous, is severely lacking.

This would have been an excellent proposition 10 years ago though, I give you that.

I am a dinosaur as well and I‘ll be driving ICE untill those last generation idiots bomb me out of my car After that I‘ll buy the cheapest EV possible, because to me they are mere appliences.
And yes, electrification in the Netherlands is going fast, real fast.

 

[SKY]

I am a dinosaur as well and I‘ll be driving ICE untill those last generation idiots bomb me out of my car After that I‘ll buy the cheapest EV possible, because to me they are mere appliences.
And yes, electrification in the Netherlands is going fast, real fast.

Man, but have you tried a proper EV? I can understand driving a Tesla might not be engaging after driving an E-Class, or a 5er. But maybe if you drive a Taycan, the feeling is different.

In fact, @Big Sam seems to be out of his mind with his Taycan. And he has owned several top tip german cars along the years.

I sympathize with what you are saying but, at the same time, I believe when I drive an interesting EV, my opinion might change.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Man, but have you tried a proper EV? I can understand driving a Tesla might not be engaging after driving an E-Class, or a 5er. But maybe if you drive a Taycan, the feeling is different.

In fact, @Big Sam seems to be out of his mind with his Taycan. And he has owned several top tip german cars along the years.

I sympathize with what you are saying but, at the same time, I believe when I drive an interesting EV, my opinion might change.

Sofar I’ve driven:
Tesla S and Model 3;
EQS;
KIA Niro;
Audi GT and one of those e-tron SUV;
Porsche Taycan;
HyundaI IONIQ 5;
Smart #1 Brabus.

Most of them for rather short periodes of time. EQS and Audi GT I’ve driven for a longer distance and time. The only one I’d consider because of the way it drives and range, would be an EQS. Audi GT design is one of the best current designs on the market imo, regardless of being ICE or BEV. If design were an issue, I’d order an Audi GT. The rest? Like I said, appliences.

 

[Big Sam]

Man, but have you tried a proper EV? I can understand driving a Tesla might not be engaging after driving an E-Class, or a 5er. But maybe if you drive a Taycan, the feeling is different.

In fact, @Big Sam seems to be out of his mind with his Taycan. And he has owned several top tip german cars along the years.

I sympathize with what you are saying but, at the same time, I believe when I drive an interesting EV, my opinion might change.

Without wanting to further push this topic further off-topic, I was a bit like Mick just over one year ago. Didn't see the point of EVs. They were, as Mick described them, "appliances". Then I drove the Taycan. It completely blew me away. My new GTS Sport Turismo is due to be built next week, and I cannot wait to take delivery. I would go far as to say the Taycan I have now is a better car than my R8 V10. The reasons are few and simple. It's more relevant to my life than the R8. The Taycan is useable for 100% of my driving needs, unlike the R8. The downsides I thought EVs came with are simply not there. Charging even on long distance journeys is easy. Two days ago I crossed four countries during an 800km journey, and it cost less than €40. Charging completely fitted in with my natural stops. Even when you have to detour around traffic which messes up your charging plan, it actually becomes fun because you have to think on your feet and work out an alternative strategy, a bit like an F1 team. This genuinely adds interest to what would be a boring "one tank" journey in a diesel. It's a special place to be, and gives me driving satisfaction when I'm behind the wheel. There's more to driving than engine noise.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Without wanting to further push this topic further off-topic, I was a bit like Mick just over one year ago. Didn't see the point of EVs. They were, as Mick described them, "appliances". Then I drove the Taycan. It completely blew me away. My new GTS Sport Turismo is due to be built next week, and I cannot wait to take delivery. I would go far as to say the Taycan I have now is a better car than my R8 V10. The reasons are few and simple. It's more relevant to my life than the R8. The Taycan is useable for 100% of my driving needs, unlike the R8. The downsides I thought EVs came with are simply not there. Charging even on long distance journeys is easy. Two days ago I crossed four countries during an 800km journey, and it cost less than €40. Charging completely fitted in with my natural stops. Even when you have to detour around traffic which messes up your charging plan, it actually becomes fun because you have to think on your feet and work out an alternative strategy, a bit like an F1 team. This genuinely adds interest to what would be a boring "one tank" journey in a diesel. It's a special place to be, and gives me driving satisfaction when I'm behind the wheel. There's more to driving than engine noise.

For me there are two factors, that determine the faith of an EV ownership, when long trips are needed:
1. The density (also availability) of fast chargers. Living in the west and northern Europe this should not be an issue
2. Does the trip include German highway and how the driver behaves once being there. EVs are acceptably efficient for long trips when you drive them with speeds up to 140 kmh.
Provided that the owner drives in this part of Europe I will exclude the topography as a factor, because the land there (for some here) is almost flat.
Starting a long trip with a full battery provides safe distance of about 350 km, provided that the energy consumption is between the range of 25-28 kWh, or an overage speed of 125-135 kmh. When you are sure that the next charging is within reach you can drive until the battery drops to 5% of charge, in order to secure charging with maximum power. To charge energy for 250 km or charging state from 5% to about 70% you need a stop of 25 min. So you have a trip of 600 km with one 25 min stop. With another 25 min stop you add another 250 km, so for a 850 km trip you need two stops per 25 min each. This should be a no issue for anybody, even for this distance it is highly recommended for the drivers of ICE vehicles to make such brakes.
Correct me, if your experience shows something different.

 

[Pagani]

I take 300 mile trips to our lake vacations twice or so a year and nearly each fuel stop ends up being around 20-30 minutes. So I see absolutely no issue with an EV needing as much to charge while the passengers grab something to eat or stretch their legs. I’d love to own a Taycan at some point as they look and sound like a lot of fun.

 

[empower77]

Man, but have you tried a proper EV? I can understand driving a Tesla might not be engaging after driving an E-Class, or a 5er. But maybe if you drive a Taycan, the feeling is different.

In fact, @Big Sam seems to be out of his mind with his Taycan. And he has owned several top tip german cars along the years.

I sympathize with what you are saying but, at the same time, I believe when I drive an interesting EV, my opinion might change.

Nonsense. I have driven the Taycan 4S and it was crap. It’s fast yes ( don’t feel the speed unlike a Tesla 3 dual motor) but it’s also HEAVY! It’s a 3 series size car with almost 1500 lbs / 600 kgs on it. A pig. Sorry but unless they make electric cars lighter than gas powered cars they are just gimmicks and not very efficient. It’s all bs marketing

 

[Big Sam]

Nonsense. I have driven the Taycan 4S and it was crap. It’s fast yes ( don’t feel the speed unlike a Tesla 3 dual motor) but it’s also HEAVY! It’s a 3 series size car with almost 1500 lbs / 600 kgs on it. A pig. Sorry but unless they make electric cars lighter than gas powered cars they are just gimmicks and not very efficient. It’s all bs marketing

The Taycan is bigger than the outgoing 5 Series, so it's certainly not a "3 Series-sized car". But I take your point that it's significantly heavier than either of those BMWs. I just don't detect the weight. It's so low down that it's doesn't feel like 2.2 tonnes. The GTS ST is over 2.3 tonnes, and I suspect I won't feel that either. It's certainly not a track car, but as a long distance GT car it's simply superb.

Sorry for the off-topic.

 

[Jonathan19]

Just heard the top AMG Version will have the Inline 6 hybrid and push 700ps and not the 4cyl hybrid of the C63 S E-Performance and will be show in August/September.

Don't know if true but just want to let peoples know.

 

[tennmb]

I am a dinosaur as well and I‘ll be driving ICE untill those last generation idiots bomb me out of my car After that I‘ll buy the cheapest EV possible, because to me they are mere appliences.
And yes, electrification in the Netherlands is going fast, real fast.

Felt the same way, until I started spending some time in the Mercedes EQs. Now I want one. Cars are appliances to most people. That's why they sell so many Camry's and Civics. But, that certainly doesn't mean an EV can't have an emotional aspect.

 

[fan_of_642]

The Taycan is bigger than the outgoing 5 Series, so it's certainly not a "3 Series-sized car". But I take your point that it's significantly heavier than either of those BMWs. I just don't detect the weight. It's so low down that it's doesn't feel like 2.2 tonnes. The GTS ST is over 2.3 tonnes, and I suspect I won't feel that either. It's certainly not a track car, but as a long distance GT car it's simply superb.

Sorry for the off-topic.

Soon I will own two "medium weighted" cars with 2,2to - one classic ICE and one modern BEV. I will report

Which is yet sure is the fact that "faster riding" has much more impact to an BEV whilst in a modern turbodiesel car you will get a moderate express charge - if you set 150 km/h as a limit. For BEV you should set 120, so perfect for the non-german world

 

[Tourbillon]

Just heard the top AMG Version will have the Inline 6 hybrid and push 700ps and not the 4cyl hybrid of the C63 S E-Performance and will be show in August/September.

Don't know if true but just want to let peoples know.

Yes the guys have been talking about an inline 6 cylinder engine for awhile.