Its a tough choice between the 580e PHEV or S580, Which one would you choose? Inline6 with electric motor or thumping V8 and 612 pounds lighter weight.
Easy peasy, S580 it is.
S400d if I lived in Europe, though.
Its a tough choice between the 580e PHEV or S580, Which one would you choose? Inline6 with electric motor or thumping V8 and 612 pounds lighter weight.
With how many cars you’ve driven and being driven,does the S Class offer the best suspension going over potholes and bumps ?No glossy glamour pictures here, just a real life picture of a car actually being used; one in the woods, walking my dog.
PS 19” winter wheels and tyres. I think they look ok.
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I live in the US and it is not even a choice at all. V8 S580 all the way, perhaps even over the actual S 63 given the cost and complexity of drivetrain.Its a tough choice between the 580e PHEV or S580, Which one would you choose? Inline6 with electric motor or thumping V8 and 612 pounds lighter weight.
Specifications
2023 Mercedes-Benz S580e PHEV
Vehicle Type: front-engine, front-motor, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $123,700/$139,900
POWERTRAIN
Turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve 3.0-liter inline-6, 362 hp, 369 lb-ft + AC motor, 148 hp, 354 lb-ft (combined output: 510 hp, 553 lb-ft; 22.7-kWh lithium-ion battery pack)
Transmission: 9-speed automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 14.5-in vented disc/14.1-in vented disc
Tires: Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 HRS
F: 255/40R-20 101H M+S Extra Load MOE-S Runflat
R: 285/35R-20 104H M+S Extra Load MOE-S Runflat
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 126.6 in
Length: 208.2 in
Width: 76.9 in
Height: 59.2 in
Trunk Volume: 13 ft3
Curb Weight: 5606 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 4.2 sec
100 mph: 10.1 sec
1/4-Mile: 12.6 sec @ 112 mph
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 4.8 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.9 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 3.2 sec
Top Speed (gov ltd): 129 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 174 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 366 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.85 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 35 MPGe
75-mph Highway Driving, EV/Hybrid mode: 75 MPGe/36 mpg
75-mph Highway Range, EV/Hybrid mode: 58/630 mi
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 23/20/29 mpg
Combined Gasoline + Electricity: 51 MPGe
EV Range: 46 mi
2021 Mercedes-Benz S580
Vehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $117,350/$143,240
ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 243 in3, 3982 cm3
Power: 496 hp @ 5500 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm
TRANSMISSION
9-speed automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 14.5-in vented, cross-drilled disc/14.1-in vented, cross-drilled, grooved carbon-ceramic disc/drum
Tires: Pirelli P Zero PZ4
F: 255/35R-21 98Y MO-S
R: 285/30R-21 100Y MO-S
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 126.6 in
Length: 208.2 in
Width: 76.9 in
Height: 59.2 in
Passenger Volume: 120 ft3
Trunk Volume: 13 ft3
Curb Weight: 4992 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.9 sec
100 mph: 9.7 sec
¼-Mile: 12.5 sec @ 114 mph
120 mph: 14.0 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 4.8 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.8 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 3.7 sec
Top Speed (gov ltd): 129 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 168 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 350 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.87 g
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 20/17/25 mpg
C/D TESTING EXPLAINED
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The S class offers the best suspension in it's segment imo. In some reviews however, the new 7er is considered to be on par or even better.With how many cars you’ve driven and being driven,does the S Class offer the best suspension going over potholes and bumps ?
but but it beat the S ClassI haven't seen the video, but I know the BMW won the race, so... Shouldn't you have posted it on the topic for the 7-series Genesis G70?
Must be an embargo in place. There have been no real reviews, but lots of YouTubers driving them etc.The S 63… Here is a car that was so anticipated and now it is just ‘meh’. Especially these music only videos suck. No proper Throttle House style reviews on this to inform.
It‘s as if Mercedes is prioritising the G-Class and new SL over flagship S-Class variants.The S 63… Here is a car that was so anticipated and now it is just ‘meh’. Especially these music only videos suck. No proper Throttle House style reviews on this to inform.
The G glass is their most desirable product .... For some reason. It's basically a fashion piece all on its own.It‘s as if Mercedes is prioritising the G-Class and new SL over flagship S-Class variants.
It is one of the classic S colours though. But I agree, that in the later iterations, let’s say from W220 on, it was less popularI'm not accustomed to green paint on an S-Class. Looks good but I would prefer it in blue or maroon.
I just can’t bring myself to like any of the regular German car color palette.. why is everything so grey scale? An S would look soooo good in bright vibrant colors. I think BMW M is the only one that has any semblance of a color palate for more ‘regular’ people
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