S-Class (W223) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223)

[Mick Briesgau]

Today I had a business trip of almost 500 km. Let me tell you this, the driving didn’t make me tired. In fact it was the only relaxation I‘ve had all day long. Just love my car

 

[Jacke]

New facelift already

 

[Merc1]

What

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[Serpens]

That is absolutely not the facelift. That’s part of Mercedes NXT Icon “digital collectible” push. The car you’re seeing there is just the Maybach concept.

 

[Merc1]

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[hannaz]

That is absolutely not the facelift. That’s part of Mercedes NXT Icon “digital collectible” push. The car you’re seeing there is just the Maybach concept.

But which Maybach concept you meant?

 

[Uygar]

It is actually the S Class. The outlines don’t even match with the concept

 

[advantage20]

New facelift already

I was going to post a visual comparison but it probably wouldn't be appropriate.

 

[Serpens]

It is actually the S Class. The outlines don’t even match with the concept

Fair- regardless it’s not supposed to be a teaser for anything. You can check Gordon Wagener’s Instagram.

 

[hannaz]

I was told by a Mercedes sales guy that S-Class facelift is due for 2024, seems that they have expedite it to match the flagship to place above competition on features & techs. May be they are also planning to fix all quality issue too.

^^ it’s not Maybach 6 concept in the graphics, highly relatable to S-Class Maybach only

 

[Rolf]

New facelift already

Is the FL S-class used for new condom adverts? Lol

 

[Serpens]

I was told by a Mercedes sales guy that S-Class facelift is due for 2024, seems that they have expedite it to match the flagship to place above competition on features & techs. May be they are also planning to fix all quality issue too.

How would that be expedited? The facelift being shown next year and likely starting production in late 2024/early 2025 would be a fairly normal schedule given the W223 started production in 2020.

 

[SKY]

Interesting. I am curious to see what does MB with the W224. The current W223 should remain in the market until 2027, so extending its production for 1-2 years and then having a fully electric S-Class would make sense IMO.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I was told by a Mercedes sales guy that S-Class facelift is due for 2024, seems that they have expedite it to match the flagship to place above competition on features & techs. May be they are also planning to fix all quality issue too.

^^ it’s not Maybach 6 concept in the graphics, highly relatable to S-Class Maybach only

What quality issues do you speak of?

I wonder if the w223 is going to get a prolonged life cycle with 2 facelifts like the Macan. This would allow MB to keep offering an ICE variant without needing to invest in a new car.

The fundamentals of the vehicle definitely seem strong enough to endure a longer cycle.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Interesting. I am curious to see what does MB with the W224. The current W223 should remain in the market until 2027, so extending its production for 1-2 years and then having a fully electric S-Class would make sense IMO.

A 7 year production cycle is normal, so an end of production in 2027 would match that normal cycle. I see no extending. W222 was 8 years in production, by the way. I wouldn’t be surprised if W223 stays in production for (much) more than 7 years. Like @Mr. Mercedes said, the car has the potential.

 

[SKY]

A 7 year production cycle is normal, so an end of production in 2027 would match that normal cycle. I see no extending. W222 was 8 years in production, by the way. I wouldn’t be surprised if W223 stays in production for (much) more than 7 years. Like @Mr. Mercedes said, the car has the potential.

Precisely, that was exactly my point.

Yesterday I saw pictures of the first units of the current 718 and realised it came out in 2012!

So I could see the current gen MBs staying in the market for 2-3 additional years while the EV versions gain popularity.

 

[Tourbillon]

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[dalab]

The fundamentals of the vehicle definitely seem strong enough to endure a longer cycle.

I wouldn’t be surprised if W223 stays in production for (much) more than 7 years. Like @Mr. Mercedes said, the car has the potential.

A thousand good things can be said about this car, but definitely extending its existence with a design that despite being beautiful was extremely evolutionary and conservative is not one of them, it was born looking a bit dated, especially in this environment of radical designs from all the brands in the world, I don't think it will resist well, especially because in the FL, the profile never changes and that is the most conservative thing it has

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

A thousand good things can be said about this car, but definitely extending its existence with a design that despite being beautiful was extremely evolutionary and conservative is not one of them, it was born looking a bit dated, especially in this environment of radical designs from all the brands in the world, I don't think it will resist well, especially because in the FL, the profile never changes and that is the most conservative thing it has

It was born beautiful. A pristine blend of elegance, sportiness and gravitas. Tweaks would keep whats is fundamentally a perfectly proportioned sedan looking good for a long time.

 

[dalab]

It was born beautiful. A pristine blend of elegance, sportiness and gravitas. Tweaks would keep whats is fundamentally a perfectly proportioned sedan looking good for a long time.

From what I have stated, I do not have the same opinion, I believe that if they extend it for more years, it will inevitably decline at a higher rate than the usual at the end of its normal life cycle.