S-Class (W223) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223)

[Wolfgang]

^ Not much is known yet. But JESMB did just discover some preproduction/test S 48V ISG models which were registered in January.

Mercedes S-Class with OM656M 48Volt ISG already in the statistics

• What does the 1.4% diesel mild hybrid account for? There could already be a couple of E 300d 4matic in the approval (factory approval)? Wrong thought -- there are 21 S-Class (W223) mild hybrid diesels. It will be the S 350d and S 400d with the R6 OM656 which, as the OM656M, should also receive the 48 volt ISG in the 9G-Tronic gearbox bell. They may already arrive with the change year 2021-2 in December 2021. -- translated from JESMB

 

[Merc1]

Who cares lol. S63 please.

M

 

[PanterroR]

When you f'up the one and only SL 2 times in a row, it doesn't surprise me that you've managed to f'up the S as well...

Messs, mess, mess... Sadly.

 

[Merc1]

How has the SL been messed up two times in a row?

M

 

[Grosser]

^I think he means previous and this gen are messed up

 

[Merc1]

^I think he means previous and this gen are messed up

Yeah I get that, but I wanted his take. I can see the R231 being messed up, but not the R230.


M

 

[Merc1]

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[PanterroR]

Yeah I get that, but I wanted his take. I can see the R231 being messed up, but not the R230.


M

No, no... I mean R231 and R232 because despite not being fully revealed from what i have seen so far it's desing is a complete mess as R231.

 

[lukeswiss]

Hi Mick. It’s a S500 4matic. Fuel consumption is 10,2 l / 100 km. It’s a pretty noisy engine. I thought they would completely encapsulate it. Which they didn’t. That is remarkable because on the other hand the car is so perfectly isolated with respect to NVH. But that’s my truly subjective opinion.
Best

Driving the same car, and I didn't believe you about the engine being noisy, but it is. It's kind of a droning noise. I also agree with others, the indicator stalk and gear level feels very cheap, which is a shame, because you touch these things the most. Really a missed opportunity to use aluminium.

 

[AHall42631]

Driving the same car, and I didn't believe you about the engine being noisy, but it is. It's kind of a droning noise. I also agree with others, the indicator stalk and gear level feels very cheap, which is a shame, because you touch these things the most. Really a missed opportunity to use aluminium.

The guy in the review mentions the quality of the turn signal lever. Now that you mention it, where is the gear selector? I see the signal and what I believe is the windshield wiper lever, but what about the gear selector?

 

[fortuner]

No, no... I mean R231 and R232 because despite not being fully revealed from what i have seen so far it's desing is a complete mess as R231.

I wish I had your eyes ????

 

[Mick Briesgau]

where is the gear selector?

The gear lever is right form the steering wheel, attached to the steering column.

 

[PanterroR]

I wish I had your eyes ????

Don't, because you'd hate 95% of MB's line up.

 

[Merc1]

No, no... I mean R231 and R232 because despite not being fully revealed from what i have seen so far it's desing is a complete mess as R231.

Oh goodness. Okay.

M

 

[MichiB]

New Mercedes S-Class: security only at extra cost?

Stable brakes for the Mercedes-Benz S-Class cost € 300 extra

Mercedes-Benz S-Class and not sure? Admittedly, we didn't even think of it ourselves. Of course, out of journalistic and private interests, we sometimes configure an S-Class, but honestly we haven't stumbled upon this option so far. And what we've read is really awesome.

Readers or irritated customers who put their new S-Class together in the configurator pointed out to us that for the S-Class with more than 435 hp, you have to order stable brakes with an additional 300 €. What? Incredible? Can't be ?! Our readers must have misunderstood or overlooked something.

So we pre-buttoned the configurator and configured an S 500 4MATIC. And because we were curious, we went straight to the Equipment menu (see photo) and found that there is actually an option "Brake system with larger brake discs € 297.50". We would expect from a Mercedes-Benz for € 120,000 that we wouldn't have to reorder stable brakes for € 300, but "It's not that bad!" Many manufacturers offer larger brakes as an option. We thought. At first. Because the real hammer is coming now. To advertise the option you can actually read: "With this (with the optional brakes, editor's note) you can rely on stable brakes even in particularly dynamic fall situations." SORRY?

Well, that's awesome! And what if I don't invest the 300 euros, then nothing is stable, or what? What about Mercedes-Benz's own commitment to set safety standards? Are the S-Class customers, who pay a six-figure sum, being plundered in a hackneyed manner for a measly 300 euros? The main thing is that the margin is right? Suddenly we can understand the amazement or annoyance of some S-Class customers. Or is the less stable brake due to the fact that most S-Classes are sold in China and the USA? According to the motto, the little brake is enough, they are not allowed to drive fast anyway. If you want to drive faster, you have to reorder ?! Honestly, we're a little horrified. Was that "the best or nothing?"

Source: https://www.mercedes-fans.de/magazi...rcedes-benz-s-klasse-kosten-300-e-extra.17114

 

[lukeswiss]

New Mercedes S-Class: security only at extra cost?

Stable brakes for the Mercedes-Benz S-Class cost € 300 extra

Mercedes-Benz S-Class and not sure? Admittedly, we didn't even think of it ourselves. Of course, out of journalistic and private interests, we sometimes configure an S-Class, but honestly we haven't stumbled upon this option so far. And what we've read is really awesome.

Readers or irritated customers who put their new S-Class together in the configurator pointed out to us that for the S-Class with more than 435 hp, you have to order stable brakes with an additional 300 €. What? Incredible? Can't be ?! Our readers must have misunderstood or overlooked something.

So we pre-buttoned the configurator and configured an S 500 4MATIC. And because we were curious, we went straight to the Equipment menu (see photo) and found that there is actually an option "Brake system with larger brake discs € 297.50". We would expect from a Mercedes-Benz for € 120,000 that we wouldn't have to reorder stable brakes for € 300, but "It's not that bad!" Many manufacturers offer larger brakes as an option. We thought. At first. Because the real hammer is coming now. To advertise the option you can actually read: "With this (with the optional brakes, editor's note) you can rely on stable brakes even in particularly dynamic fall situations." SORRY?

Well, that's awesome! And what if I don't invest the 300 euros, then nothing is stable, or what? What about Mercedes-Benz's own commitment to set safety standards? Are the S-Class customers, who pay a six-figure sum, being plundered in a hackneyed manner for a measly 300 euros? The main thing is that the margin is right? Suddenly we can understand the amazement or annoyance of some S-Class customers. Or is the less stable brake due to the fact that most S-Classes are sold in China and the USA? According to the motto, the little brake is enough, they are not allowed to drive fast anyway. If you want to drive faster, you have to reorder ?! Honestly, we're a little horrified. Was that "the best or nothing?"

Source: https://www.mercedes-fans.de/magazi...rcedes-benz-s-klasse-kosten-300-e-extra.17114

„The best or no nothing, for our shareholders xoxo”

 

[MichiB]

 

[Mick Briesgau]

New Mercedes S-Class: security only at extra cost?

Stable brakes for the Mercedes-Benz S-Class cost € 300 extra

Mercedes-Benz S-Class and not sure? Admittedly, we didn't even think of it ourselves. Of course, out of journalistic and private interests, we sometimes configure an S-Class, but honestly we haven't stumbled upon this option so far. And what we've read is really awesome.

Readers or irritated customers who put their new S-Class together in the configurator pointed out to us that for the S-Class with more than 435 hp, you have to order stable brakes with an additional 300 €. What? Incredible? Can't be ?! Our readers must have misunderstood or overlooked something.

So we pre-buttoned the configurator and configured an S 500 4MATIC. And because we were curious, we went straight to the Equipment menu (see photo) and found that there is actually an option "Brake system with larger brake discs € 297.50". We would expect from a Mercedes-Benz for € 120,000 that we wouldn't have to reorder stable brakes for € 300, but "It's not that bad!" Many manufacturers offer larger brakes as an option. We thought. At first. Because the real hammer is coming now. To advertise the option you can actually read: "With this (with the optional brakes, editor's note) you can rely on stable brakes even in particularly dynamic fall situations." SORRY?

Well, that's awesome! And what if I don't invest the 300 euros, then nothing is stable, or what? What about Mercedes-Benz's own commitment to set safety standards? Are the S-Class customers, who pay a six-figure sum, being plundered in a hackneyed manner for a measly 300 euros? The main thing is that the margin is right? Suddenly we can understand the amazement or annoyance of some S-Class customers. Or is the less stable brake due to the fact that most S-Classes are sold in China and the USA? According to the motto, the little brake is enough, they are not allowed to drive fast anyway. If you want to drive faster, you have to reorder ?! Honestly, we're a little horrified. Was that "the best or nothing?"

Source: https://www.mercedes-fans.de/magazi...rcedes-benz-s-klasse-kosten-300-e-extra.17114

This was already the case with the W222. I ordered the bigger brakes with mine. Same price.

 

[lukeswiss]

This was already the case with the W222. I ordered the bigger brakes with mine. Same price.

A smart choice. It’s a lot of car to slow down from speed !

 

[Mick Briesgau]

A smart choice. It’s a lot of car to slow down from speed !

Indeed it is. And you know the feeling of driving fast (> 200 km/h) in a S Klasse; you are fast, but you hardly notice you are driving faster. The car feels like a brick on the road, the driving noises are suppressed.
The bigger brakes also play an for me important role in the Alps. Descending the curvy, steep mountain road leads to a lot of braking and the risque of heating brakes. The larger disks prefent that.