S-Class (W223) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223)

[J.E]

And I want Mercedes to make a 4Matic, V12 S-class, because it's bullshit to give green credentials to an S-class.

 

[Levi68]

for those that can afford and need to drive long distances, a phev S is the best compromise. i am not for surveillance, but it is unfair for PHEVs with 50-100km range to be banned from zero emissions zones, when the car could be programmed to drive on ev mode based on gps location.

we are talking about now during transition, not in 10 years when BEVs will likely be more useful for a larger number of people.

 

[Sonder]

What do gentlemen say? At the Russian forum, we discussed and saw that the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat was inexperienced

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its a shame
Daimler had problems with the moose test with the W168 already
Although we must confess that the driver did steer in the other direction very late.

 

[Levi68]

its a shame
Daimler had problems with the moose test with the W168 already
Although we must confess that the driver did steer in the other direction very late.

the moose test is not a handling or performance test. it is a safety test, best performers are small light cars. even supercars do poorly. this S is no worse than any car its class. what this test can sometimes show is bad ESC calibration. no problem here.

 

[hannaz]

 

[HUTSUTAo]

This configuration deserves the s580 badge

 

[kiki voinea]

Now imagine the same picture , with the rear 10 degree steering...

It would look kind of odd

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Now imagine the same picture , with the rear 10 degree steering...

It would look kind of odd

I'm imagining this car, its' dimensions reduced to some approx. 97.5%, as the new W214 E-Class. Purrrrrfect.

 

[Sonder]

the moose test is not a handling or performance test. it is a safety test, best performers are small light cars. even supercars do poorly. this S is no worse than any car its class. what this test can sometimes show is bad ESC calibration. no problem here.

yes its a safety test and the w223 failed it here. If there would be a car, a tree, a house, whatever, the s class would have a crash. So..not “no problem here”, but a big problem here.

you can check his competitors , how its done, they all stay in the line

 

[WBarnes]

The only thing I have against this car is that it's 1.5 parking spaces long.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

The only thing I have against this car is that it's 1.5 parking spaces long.

That's my sole peeve as well. The W/V223 is sooooo damn large. Especially its' length and height-the width is just fine as it leaves the car appearing very planted. Overall length at around 5050-5100mm and height at around 1460mm would be great.

 

[Sonder]

 

[MichiB]

Mercedes-AMG S-Klasse Erlkönig erwischt: Mercedes-AMG S63e Hybrid Prototyp mit weniger Tarnung erwischt - News

"S" geht in die heiße Phase! Wir zeigen euch die neusten Bilder des kommenden Mercedes-AMG S63e Hybrid mit weniger Tarnung bei Testfahrten rund um den Nürburg

www.mercedes-fans.de

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Mercedes-AMG S-Klasse Erlkönig erwischt: Mercedes-AMG S63e Hybrid Prototyp mit weniger Tarnung erwischt - News

"S" geht in die heiße Phase! Wir zeigen euch die neusten Bilder des kommenden Mercedes-AMG S63e Hybrid mit weniger Tarnung bei Testfahrten rund um den Nürburg

www.mercedes-fans.de

Random question for my German-speaking friends: What does "erlkoenig" (or "Elf King," unless the Google lied to me) have to do with the S-Class, and Mercedes in general. I've often seen that word along with other upcoming Mercedes reveals and I've wondered about it for awhile.

 

[MichiB]

A Erlkönig is a camouflaged prototype of a car (not only for Mercedes). While the manufacturers try to keep the exact appearance of these vehicles secret, photojournalists, so-called Erlkönig hunters, want to sell their photos to specialist magazines or the tabloid press.

 

[BMW3GT]

Random question for my German-speaking friends: What does "erlkoenig" (or "Elf King," unless the Google lied to me) have to do with the S-Class, and Mercedes in general. I've often seen that word along with other upcoming Mercedes reveals and I've wondered about it for awhile.

Back in the 1950s, the German auto journalists Heinz-Ulrich Wieselmann and Werner Oswald published spyshots of test vehicle unsolicitedly in Germany's oldest auto magazine "auto, motor und sport".
It was a sensation to their reades, somewhat a "public stunt", yet a total affront to the manufacturers, because it was the first time that pictures of unpublished vehicles were made available to pretty much everyone - and thus also to the competition. Auto-Motor-Sport then released a new column for spyshots in general and called them "Erlkönig" (Erlking).

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

A Erlkönig is a camouflaged prototype of a car (not only for Mercedes). While the manufacturers try to keep the exact appearance of these vehicles secret, photojournalists, so-called Erlkönig hunters, want to sell their photos to specialist magazines or the tabloid press.

Back in the 1950s, the German auto journalists Heinz-Ulrich Wieselmann and Werner Oswald published spyshots of test vehicle unsolicitedly in Germany's oldest auto magazine "auto, motor und sport".
It was a sensation to their reades, somewhat a "public stunt", yet a total affront to the manufacturers, because it was the first time that pictures of unpublished vehicles were made available to pretty much everyone - and thus also to the competition. Auto-Motor-Sport then released a new column for spyshots in general and called them "Erlkönig" (Erlking).

The explanation is much appreciated, guys. Didn't mean to distract too much from the topic at hand, please carry on with the S-class discussion.

 

[BMW3GT]

This is about the history of this term. Starting with Wieselmanns' and Oswalds' spyshots (and auto-motor-sport new column) the name "Erlkönig" established itself from now on as a synonym for test vehicles. The term came from the ballad of the same name by Germany's famous poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. They changed the well-known verse "Who rides so late through night and wind?" into: "Who goes so fast through rain and wind?". Since that time the manufacturers have been diligently camouflaging their “Erlkönige” in order to irritate the journalists and also the competition - to make sure design and technology will be kept safe unless the the "wraps" are off until the final release date.


Edit: Cheers @hoffmeister_fan

I have recently asked myself the same question.

 

[Merc1]

I guess we're getting closer to seeing this, finally!


M

 

[Serpens]

It looks great already. This will be hard to resist.