EQS (V297) [Official] Mercedes-Benz EQS


The Mercedes-Benz EQS (V297) is a battery electric full-size luxury liftback car produced by Mercedes-Benz Group and part of the Mercedes-Benz EQ family. Production: May 2021- Model years: 2022–
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What you guys think these a real life pics taken buy a guy on Insta ....can't post link ..

I think it looks way better then press pics...

Either it's better pics or it's growing on me..
Ok it looks way better hmm... still strange though.
 
I thing the "AMG" version will look at least 30% better.

This egg shape , with a little "aggressive" touch will be a good thing.
Its king of funny.
When the W140 came out in 1991 it was also an ugly car for many people. Now its the most legendary and best Mercedes.
Just sayin.
When the iPhone came , I remember all my friends bashing it , because all the Nokias and Samsungs were cool looking...

This car , this design language , is not affecting only MB. Look at BMW. They are also on this strange design language on EVs

Maybe this is the future that we did not see in Demolition Man movie...
 
If these pics are originals then it should be the basic trim (except for the rims). We also don’t have digital lights. The three LED dots are missing which is not that bad, because it gives the front a more homogeneous aspect.
In my opinion you have to order the electric art exterieur together with graphite grey metallic. Then - and only then - the whole car is homogeneously painted in one color, i.e. graphite gray.
Some pics for illustration.
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I don’t like the non AMG front at all, that weird bumper and the clean black grill without the small stars looks cheap. That bumper in particular reminds me of this

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But yeah no surprise the stellar difference between a non AMG and AMG package Merc... unfortunately. The car with the AMG pack and 22” five spoke rims will look hot af, unfortunately m I can’t tell the same about any other combination....
 
If these pics are originals then it should be the basic trim (except for the rims). We also don’t have digital lights. The three LED dots are missing which is not that bad, because it gives the front a more homogeneous aspect.
In my opinion you have to order the electric art exterieur together with graphite grey metallic. Then - and only then - the whole car is homogeneously painted in one color, i.e. graphite gray.
Some pics for illustration.
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I don't why but this car looks like it is from 2005.
 
I don’t like the non AMG front at all, that weird bumper and the clean black grill without the small stars looks cheap. That bumper in particular reminds me of this

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But yeah no surprise the stellar difference between a non AMG and AMG package Merc... unfortunately. The car with the AMG pack and 22” five spoke rims will look hot af, unfortunately m I can’t tell the same about any other combination....

you are forgetting that there also comes the licence plate between, then it doesnt look like you described it
 
Under the sideglass windowsills, the "lower 2/3s'" of the EQS´ side profile looks great. It really does methinks. It' the "upper 1/3" where it begins to get weird.
 
I don't why but this car looks like it is from 2005.

What you're noticing is likely the 'cab forward' design that other cars from the mid-late 00s used. Specifically Honda Civic. The design could have been more daring but I suspect the conservative design was intentional and largely a byproduct of protecting the ICE market cars (S-class et al).

At the end of the day, a design has failed if every automotive forum out there is talking about that single aspect of a car and not the incredibly efficient powertrain, or the technology (level 3 autonomy, hyperscreen, NVH etc, passive and safety tech).
 
I can’t decide whether I’d prefer the night pack or not. The chrome window surround draws attention the overall egg shape but the black window surround makes the already large greenhouse appear even larger especially with tinted windows.

Any news on when the configurator will be up?
 
Love the tech but can't say I am a fan of the exterior. The S class is a much more attractive design.
 
the incredibly efficient powertrain
That's only in the minds of the people from the marketing Department of Daimler. There are superior and more efficient electric motors out there. The PermanentMagnet assisted Synchronous Reluctance Motor totally kills it. Maybe Daimler can get an access to this technology for its next gen EVs.
 
Regarding the name of the forum. What exactly is a German car ?
Is a MB produced in China or a BMW produced in US a German car ? Is a Tesla produced in Germany (soon) a German car ?
Where is the limit ?

And a little bit similar, what is an efficient motor ? Is it efficient on its own, or only if the combination of motor and car (with many parameters) is efficient ?
Which is the most efficient motor (in 2021) ? How much more efficient is it than the Daimler motors mentioned above ? (As a percentage please, and which percentage is equal to “totally kills it”.)
Which is the most efficient car ? Does it use the most efficient motor ? Why is this (not) so ?
 
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Regarding the name of the forum. What exactly is a German car ?
Is a MB produced in China or a BMW produced in US a German car ? Is a Tesla produced in Germany (soon) a German car ?
Where is the limit ?

And a little bit similar, what is an efficient motor ? Is it efficient on its own, or only if the combination of motor and car (with many parameters) is efficient ?
Which is the most efficient motor (in 2021) ? How much more efficient is it than the Daimler motors mentioned above ? (As a percentage please, and which percentage is equal to “totally kills it”.)
Which is the most efficient car ? Does it use the most efficient motor ? Why is this (not) so ?
Although the manner of your questions is not worth answering I'll try to explain some of the elementary and commonly accepted status quo of the electric motors: Basically there are three types of AC motors that are used in the EVs at the moment:
1. Induction motor: consists of a stator with windings (similar to the other two types) and a rotor called bird cage, which is very simple. The current running through the stator windings creates a Rotating Magnetic Field (RMF) that unduces current in the rods of the rotor, which creates forces that rotate it. The rotor is always lagging the RMF and the more it lags the more current is induced in the rods and so increasing the power. But all these induced current is wasted and that's why the Induction Motor is considered the least efficient of the three. But despite its drawbacks it has also some advantages in the field of efficiency. It can cruise, because there is only electric RMF, which direction and strenght can be controlled. So unefficient when change in working conditions occurs but very efficient when cruising and at higher speeds.
2. Permanet Magnet Synchronous Motor - this is the type used by Taycan and the EQS. It is very efficient when starting (good torque from 0) but there is a threshold of rpms after which a back RMF is created by the permanet magnet of the rotor and it counter acts the electric RMF in a way that it can eat up to 30% of the power, which makes it extremely unefficient after some speed. And as the EVs ussually do not have gears (Taycan has two gears, but the shorter one is only to improve the acceleration from a standstill) its not good at highway speeds. Also it can not cruise because the RMF of the PM rotor can not be switched off. This also worsens the efficiency. It is also the heaviest and uses a lot of neodim, which is a rear earth.
Due to its unefficiency at higher speed the manufacturers advertise the energy consumption in a city cycle or an eco cycle but they avoid giving the highway cycle.
3. Permanet Magnet assisted Synchronous Reluctance Motor - this is the newest generation of elmotors. It's efficient at low speeds but also at higher speeds. It doesn't create back RMF (its internally neutralized) and has very little neodim magnets. It is also lighter, very small amount of heats is generated. So also better for cooling and repeated accelerations. It needs very comlex control in order to shift between the hybrid principals of opperation and to avoid stalling when starting from 0. But is the technology of the future and anybody who doesn't use it can't claim that has state of the art technology.
The percentage of efficiency that some manufacturers give is valid only in certain conditions, load and speed, so it is not a correct way to claim efficiency.
I'm sure that in normal tests the EQS will have the same efficiency as the Taycan, due to the similar technology of the motors and the batteries, very similar weight and very similar aerodynamics ( the EQS has a slightly better Cd but its frontal area is bigger, so that the Taycan has slighly better aerodynamics).
 

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