EQS (V297) [Official] Mercedes-Benz EQS

[Sonder]

 

[GTA45E]

I still have not warmed up to the EQS at all and really don't see the attraction.
Its bulbous nose and fat body remind me of a baby hippopotamus.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I still have not warmed up to the EQS at all and really don't see the attraction.
Its bulbous nose and fat body remind me of a baby hippopotamus.

You’re being unfair to the baby ?
Poor little thing, being compared to an EQS…

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Or perhaps M-B ought to poach Thomas Ingenlath.

Also, while we are at it, can we bring back Karim Habib back to BMW? Danke.

He’s done some very good designs, like Volvo S/V90 and Polestar 1. Polestar 2 however hasn’t won me over.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Thomas Ingenlath (Volvo/Polestar), Michael Mauer (Porsche), Marc Lichte (Audi), Derek Jenkins (Lucid) and Ikuo Maeda (Mazda) are my personal top design chiefs.

 

[Sonder]

Thomas Ingenlath (Volvo/Polestar), Michael Mauer (Porsche), Marc Lichte (Audi), Derek Jenkins (Lucid) and Ikuo Maeda (Mazda) are my personal top design chiefs.

There’s only one Desiger in the Galaxy:
Bruno Sacco ?
The man who made design looking good even after 30-40 years. None of your favorite designers are able to do that.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

There’s only one Desiger in the Galaxy:
Bruno Sacco ?
The man who made design looking good even after 30-40 years. None of your favorite designers are able to do that.

Does Ferdinand Alexander Porsche ring a bell ? Or Pininfarinas' Paolo Martin ?

Bruno Sacco is most certainly a legend of automotive design-absolutely no doubt about it. But worthy of being hoisted onto devine pedestal that towers over all other designers ? No methinks. That's simply fanboy-ism.

 

[Sonder]

Does Ferdinand Alexander Porsche ring a bell ? Or Pininfarinas' Paolo Martin ?

Bruno Sacco is most certainly a legend of automotive design-absolutely no doubt about it. But worthy of being hoisted onto devine pedestal that towers over all other designers ? No methinks. That's simply fanboy-ism.

It does ring a bell, but not at all at this level, sorry.
The 911 for me is one of the ugliest car ever made. Its like a frog in the front and all the generation till the new one drive terrible.
Pininfarina is a good designer and made many beautiful cars, but also some ugly cars.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

70 years of the luxurious Mercedes-Benz sedan.

From the W186 "Adenauer" 300S in 1951...

... to the W126 S-Class offered at "halftime"...

...to the 2021 EQS

 

[Mick Briesgau]

^ I see what you did, @Jimmy ?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

^ I see what you did, @Jimmy ?

Nööö, Mick. Nicht wirklich.

I just thought that this would be an interesting chronical of sorts. The past 70 years of M-Bs' designs' path have provided some very interesting points of interest.

 

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[Sonder]

70 years of the luxurious Mercedes-Benz sedan.

From the W186 "Adenauer" 300S in 1951...

... to the W126 S-Class offered at "halftime"...

...to the 2021 EQS

thats right
Its time to move on and not stay to the 3 box design…we saw this long enough
it was nice and everything, but its time to move on

 

[Sonder]

Lets be honest.
Since the release of the EQS, many reviews were made.
Not a single one was negative.
All the reviewers saw the car in person.
We didnt.
Nuff said.

 

[dalab]

I hope to see it on my next foray into the deep, hopefully during mating or coordinated group seal hunts.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I hope to see it on my next foray into the deep, hopefully during mating or coordinated group seal hunts.

Especially in the Designo matte grey, the EQS certainly displays a distinct "nautical quality".

"Prepare the harpoons, Queequeg !"

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

He’s done some very good designs, like Volvo S/V90 and Polestar 1.

I think all the current gen Volvo's current gen cars exude a quiet confidence that can be appreciated even more when you stare at it. The exterior design coupled with Robin Page's interior design team's work in producing some of the best interiors that are not Rolls-Royce, Bentley, etc., the entire Volvo design team ought to be commended.

Polestar 2 however hasn’t won me over.

I think being saddled with that platform, there's only so much lipstick one can put on a pig. Though I've not seen in person, and despite those inherent short-comings, I think it still looks pretty good in the videos I've seen.

Thomas Ingenlath (Volvo/Polestar), Michael Mauer (Porsche), Marc Lichte (Audi), Derek Jenkins (Lucid) and Ikuo Maeda (Mazda) are my personal top design chiefs.

I am still not convinced by Lichte's work thus far. He's not terrible a but underwhelmed. I'm waiting to see how the Sphere concepts turn out and how they translate in production applications.

Mazda's current design language reminds me of Volvo's current philosophy but with an added line here or there. I'm hoping a purported move slightly upmarket will further improve their interior design game. Overall, they are my favorite current Japanese design.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I am still not convinced by Lichte's work thus far. He's not terrible a but underwhelmed. I'm waiting to see how the Sphere concepts turn out and how they translate in production applications.

I can see where you're coming from. Marc Lichte designs (or those executed under his supervision) have been a bit "hit and miss". I find the 2014/15 Prologue concepts (coupe and Avant) absolutely breathtaking. But the translation into production vehicles was a bit "lost". The current A6 + Avant is, IMHO, very compelling. Alas, far lesser so the series II A7 Sportback and D5 A8. I thought that he did a good job with the current VW Passat. I was a bit "hot/cold/lukewarm" regarding the eTron GT-but now, seeing them more frequently in real-life environments, I recognize what an excellent exercise in automotive design it is (although I would have appreciated less conspicuous front wing vents and recessed door handles ala Taycan). As far the A6 eTron concept is concerned: Initially floored by (what I perceived to be) its' beauty, I've since become a bit more critically discerning. It can appear a bit pudgy and soft from certain perspectives. It will be very interesting to see how the production model turns out. Audi spokespersons have been stating that the translation will be "90-to-95% accurate"-but those 5-to-10% can make a world of difference. I do very much like the Q4 eTron, which I've had the opportunity to scrutinize more closely "in the metal".
It appears amazingly "premium" and "substantial" to me. A whole different league than its' VW ID 4 sibling.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I can see where you're coming from. Marc Lichte designs (or those executed under his supervision) have been a bit "hit and miss". I find the 2014/15 Prologue concepts (coupe and Avant) absolutely breathtaking. But the translation into production vehicles was a bit "lost". The current A6 + Avant is, IMHO, very compelling. Alas, far lesser so the series II A7 Sportback and D5 A8. I thought that he did a good job with the current VW Passat. I was a bit "hot/cold/lukewarm" regarding the eTron GT-but now, seeing them more frequently in real-life environments, I recognize what an excellent exercise in automotive design it is (although I would have appreciated less conspicuous front wing vents and recessed door handles ala Taycan). As far the A6 eTron concept is concerned: Initially floored by (what I perceived to be) its' beauty, I've since become a bit more critically discerning. It can appear a bit pudgy and soft from certain perspectives. It will be very interesting to see how the production model turns out. Audi spokespersons have been stating that the translation will be "90-to-95% accurate"-but those 5-to-10% can make a world of difference. I do very much like the Q4 eTron, which I've had the opportunity to scrutinize more closely "in the metal".
It appears amazingly "premium" and "substantial" to me. A whole different league than its' VW ID 4 sibling.

Among his team's efforts, I'd say the A6, in 3-box and Avant form, are my favorite as well: solid lines, good proportions, not too much fuss. I was hoping the design from the Prologue would have translated well in the A8, but in person, I was quite underwhelmed. I am disappointed by the gen II A7's exterior because it just doesn't have nearly as much appeal as its predecessor. The gen I A7 was such a good design as it reminded me of Kammback coupes from the 1970's. I have not seen the eTron GT in person, and initial impressions were quite good to the point where I preferred it over it's brethren, the Taycan. But now I feel they are about even or the Taycan having the edge. I quite liked the A6 concept as well, but I'll withhold judgment until when the production version comes out. Whether they are ICE or eTrons, the SUVs/CUVs, save for the Q8, just leave me indifferent. The Q8 has a well proportioned body, but I'm not crazy about the Bane face. But to be fair, Lichte hasn't had much of a hand regarding the original design of the current crop of Q3/5/7/8, as far I know. I think he had more input with the Q4? ?‍

Truthfully, I can't remember what the Q4 looks like unless I look it up. *Looks it up* The Q4's not bad. In fact, I find it better looking than its rivals' attempt at BEV mobility in that it's inoffensively handsome. It's a design that doesn't really elicit any strong emotion one way or the other. I've probably seen pictures of it before, but it was probably promptly forgotten. And I suspect that will probably happen again once I stop thinking about it. The interior is not nearly as harmonious as the exterior with its many geometric design, but at least it has some buttons.

I'm not anywhere ready to write off Licthe's effort. Now he's been at it for 3+ years, we will see his full weight on Audi's designs. One thing he has going for him is the shift to BEV since at least he's not confined to FWD-based platforms. I know on this forum that busting on Audi's FWD platforms is pretty much a sport, but it really was something that held back Audis from really looking good, especially compared to its rivals. Theoretically, there's more design flexibility with BEVs, there's more freedom. But there's something to be said about going to out "there," where it no longer looks like a car. I am curious to see what they cook up.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Theoretically, there's more design flexibility with BEVs

Theoretically yes but in practice it seems that designing an EV faces even more restrictions: the drag coefficient, the battery in the floor increasing the height significantly. One needs to look at the EQS to see where all the drawbacks are.