E-Class (W213/C238/A238) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class W213

[Rolf]

in fact all these engine have been producing more than what they are claimed to produce

Yes true, I cant wait for ABSC to take them to the dyno, they will probably hit the 650PS mark for sure.

@klier the American saloons are already hitting 645 to 700PS (Hellcat is 717PS), so 600PS from the German saloons is a must. But I reckon the new E63 S will kill the Hellcat in a drag race, holy cow 3.5sec is F*)ken blistering.

 

[EKaru]

These things are already so quick...
I wonder how much boost that thing is running now. It's making more hp and torque than the old model which had 1.5 more liters of displacement.

 

[Nailujkam]

Fyi new e class
Cabriolet

 

[LaArtist]

M5, M6 RS6, S8 (RS7?) are all at the 600 hp mark already.
But standard 600 hp + is the new bar I guess. This will be good.

Does it really say 3.5 seconds 0-100 km/h for the E63 S? Sweet Lord...

So does the W212 E63S infact it has more hp than the M5 competition.
But this is if true is even more.. and once again the V12 from AMG seems like a bad deal.
They need to up it to 700hp or get rid of it, ain't no one in their right mind paying nearly double for 20-30 hp

 

[klier]

BMW has the 30 jahre version with 600 hp, and I believe the M6 CP is standard 600 hp now. But like said much of this is marketing as they all make more power than claimed.

And a V12 is still a V12, and in characteristics IMO vastly superior to a V8 even when equally powerful.

 

[SKY]

The thing here is that the current E63, M5 and RS6 meant a very discrete push in terms of power. Nothing compared to things like the E60 M5, which looked like a monster when it debuted (I still remember the glorious press pics).

This E63 has still a very discrete increse in power compared to the current car. 30 PS? BMW did the trick with the 600 PS M5, which is what the car should have gotten in the first place, not 560 PS. Current rumors talk about a F90 M5 with 626 PS. I do believe the car should have 650 PS instead, or even closer to 700 PS.

So no, IMO this figure is not suprissing, the top performance cars from Germany have been slow in terms of increasing PS figures. Cars like the M3, RS5 and C63 should be all in the 500 PS mark, and the F10 M5, E63 and RS6 in the 600 PS mark. With the W213 E63 and F90 M5 closer to 700 PS than 600.

But hey, I am just a fan, maybe an engineer could provide some figures that destroy my wishes.

 

[DJRaze99]

 

[vios1]

The back seat looks tight to me. Will it be comfortable sitting at the back?

 

[vios1]

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[Mick Briesgau]

The back seat looks tight to me. Will it be comfortable sitting at the back?

That's Heinrich Lingner, that guy is rather huge.

 

[Rolf]

The back seat looks tight to me. Will it be comfortable sitting at the back?

The one AB journo (who is 1.95m tall) managed to sit in back seat of E-class without his legs touching the front seat, so its more than spacious inside in the back seat.

 

[Deleted member 48992]

Will see it live next week here in Norway. But it seems with "rounder" design you get less space inside - compared to the more angular design.
Example 210 and 212 - straight lines
211 and 213 flows rounded interior.
The 211 always seemed tighter than 212 and 210.

 

[fortuner]

I have sat in the E it's very very spacious and the seats are brilliant front and rear seats ate well placed and the car is easily more spacious then the previous generation.

 

[montana]

Will see it live next week here in Norway. But it seems with "rounder" design you get less space inside - compared to the more angular design.
Example 210 and 212 - straight lines
211 and 213 flows rounded interior.
The 211 always seemed tighter than 212 and 210.

In Oslo? If so, where?

 

[vios1]

Hopefully it is spacious, I am just curious as the photo seems tight back space.

 

[klier]

Hopefully it is spacious, I am just curious as the photo seems tight back space.

E and 5 have never been that spacious. There's enough space, but if you want more you're better of with another type car....or a Skoda Superb.

 

[Deleted member 48992]

In Oslo? If so, where?

Saturday 16/4 at Erik Arnesen Helsfyr.
I believe some of the dealers will have a previews 14/4 also.

 

[LaArtist]

Went to see it live today.

My impressions:
It looks so much smaller than my car (w212) parked next to it.
It is very much more elegant, but its not in the least an imposing design, and that's not only down to the soft curves of the design, cause the C class and S class can look pretty menacing.

The head lights are really much better irl, and the grill (avantgarde) fits the car very well.

The inside is super nice, the AMG seats are amazing, but the interior gives an impression of being much tighter than the W212, very sporty and in the face, while the W212 feels airy and vast.
Rear seats are super, no problems with room.

Note: All damn cars were black inside all 10 of them. And also none of them had the dual screen cockpit. And each and everyone had the AMG package. So factor that into my comments above.
Maybe a lighter colored interior would feel less claustrophobic.

Finally i think that BMW fans might really like the E class AMG interior..it gave a BMWesque feeling when it comes to being tight and driver focused.


All in all a very nice car, beautiful but very vanilla.
Inside is amazing no doubt, maybe some more airiness would be nice.

It did NOT wow me, and it does NOT give me that : GOT TO HAVE IT! feeling.

PS
I do think MB played it safe with this one, so that they can go all in on the CLS for the customers that want more flair. Let's wait and see.

I will not be switching my E for a new E though.
Possibly the new CLS, or i might do something shocking and change brand

 

[Deleted member 48992]

I have one more year of leasing on the C class. I am thinking of buying a used 2014/2015/2016 E class S212 with less than 60.000km. Probably not going to buy the new E. It does not wow me that much.
If the facelift C is revealed by spring 2017 - I might go for a C facelift wagon, but most likely a facelift S212. It feels so much more spacious.

 

[HUTSUTAo]

Could this be an accidental leak by a dealer