E-Class (W213/C238/A238) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class W213
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The Mercedes-Benz W213 is the fifth generation of the E-Class range. It succeeded the W212 E-Class models. The coupe/convertible models (C238/A238) share the same platform as the sedan/wagon, in contrast to the previous generation. Production: February 2016–2023. Model years: 2017–2023.
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The Exclusive Exterior.
I'll save my opinion for Kallaite Green until I see it in person. My initial impressions are good however
May not work on AMG models as well as on the Elegance or Exclusive packages.
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Translated MB Passion's latest MULTIBEAM update.
At a Glance: The new LED MULTIBEAM in the new E-Class
Currently there's probably no smarter light than the new, optional LED MULTIBEAM light with 84 LEDs per headlamp in the new E-Class. The new E-Class comes standard with H7-light and optionally an additional normal LED light is available. The Intelligent Light System (ILS) is only included with the MULTIBEAM system.
MULTIBEAM LED for each engine and line
The new MULTIBEAM LED adapts the driving lights extremely quickly and accurately to the current traffic situation. With individually controllable LEDs, the light can always turn on right where it is needed. With 84 (!) individually controllable LEDs each, four control systems calculate on the basis of information from a windscreen camera 100 times per second the ideal illumination, and beam the light now exactly where it belongs. The system thus extends and perfects the known features of the Intelligent Light System (ILS): the high-beam mode allows the Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus to widely illuminate the road without blinding oncoming traffic. When encountering oncoming or preceding vehicles, the LEDs of the main beam modules are switched off partially in the headlights and each generate a light pattern cut in a U-shape, for the other areas, however, the road will continue to be illuminated with the high beam (partial beam). When a highway situation is recognized, the beam light distribution is adjusted and optimised, thus reducing the risk of blinding oncoming trucks. Depending on the situation the highway beam mode is activated in order to continue to not blind other road users.
Components of the headlight
The MULTIBEAM LED consists of the "eyebrow", with multifunctional fiber optic daytime running lights, position light, direction indicator and locator/coming home lighting. In the middle level inside there are the LEDs for the high beam functions highway, highway partial high beam and Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus. The low beam with active light function, motorway mode, enhanced fog lamps and tourist mode (for changing from LHD to RHD) is in the center. Below them: 3 low-beam basic light reflectors.
Further functions:
The country light illuminates the vehicle side of the road and provides broader and brighter light than the conventional low beam. On the highway, the range of the light is increased by about 50 meters. If the Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus is turned on - and the high-beam active - the light distribution is adjusted for optimal highway driving.
The active turning light function allows the headlights to swivel into the corner, and when combined with the Lane Departure or the Driving Assistance package a predictive curve detection is also possible. The active light is illuminated before the steering wheel is turned into the curve and before departing from the curve (by means of the information attached to the windscreen-mounted camera). The active light function is thus independent of whether navigation data is available.
With an additional light source (LED) and a specific steering wheel angle the cornering light switches on automatically. In addition, the light is activated when reversing and when switching on the turn signals below 40 km/h Enable (activating and deactivating by dimming). In conjunction with COMAND Online the positions of roundabouts on the route are determined, and the cornering light is activated before entering it.
Below 70 km/h - and as soon as the rear fog light is turned on - the enhanced fog lights are activated. This swivels the headlights on the driver's outward by eight degress, and in parallel the light cone is lowered and the outer half of the road is illuminated better and brighter. The enhanced fog lamps remain active up to 100 km/h.
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At a Glance: The new LED MULTIBEAM in the new E-Class
Currently there's probably no smarter light than the new, optional LED MULTIBEAM light with 84 LEDs per headlamp in the new E-Class. The new E-Class comes standard with H7-light and optionally an additional normal LED light is available. The Intelligent Light System (ILS) is only included with the MULTIBEAM system.
MULTIBEAM LED for each engine and line
The new MULTIBEAM LED adapts the driving lights extremely quickly and accurately to the current traffic situation. With individually controllable LEDs, the light can always turn on right where it is needed. With 84 (!) individually controllable LEDs each, four control systems calculate on the basis of information from a windscreen camera 100 times per second the ideal illumination, and beam the light now exactly where it belongs. The system thus extends and perfects the known features of the Intelligent Light System (ILS): the high-beam mode allows the Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus to widely illuminate the road without blinding oncoming traffic. When encountering oncoming or preceding vehicles, the LEDs of the main beam modules are switched off partially in the headlights and each generate a light pattern cut in a U-shape, for the other areas, however, the road will continue to be illuminated with the high beam (partial beam). When a highway situation is recognized, the beam light distribution is adjusted and optimised, thus reducing the risk of blinding oncoming trucks. Depending on the situation the highway beam mode is activated in order to continue to not blind other road users.
Components of the headlight
The MULTIBEAM LED consists of the "eyebrow", with multifunctional fiber optic daytime running lights, position light, direction indicator and locator/coming home lighting. In the middle level inside there are the LEDs for the high beam functions highway, highway partial high beam and Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus. The low beam with active light function, motorway mode, enhanced fog lamps and tourist mode (for changing from LHD to RHD) is in the center. Below them: 3 low-beam basic light reflectors.
Further functions:
- The country light illuminates the roadside broader and brighter than a conventional low beam.
- With a highway situation is detected, the highway mode is activated with higher range and light output.
- The cornering light function improves the illumination of the road by additional light on the turning side.
- Active curve illumination headlights can swivel into the corner and so illuminate the road much better. In combination with the Lane Departure or Driving Assist package the lights can beam into the curve even before turning the steering wheel.
- When turning in tight corners and the cornering light is dimmed and disabled. The cornering light function is activated when encountering roundabouts in combination with COMAND Online, even before the entrance to a roundabout.
- With the extended fog light, the outer half of the road is illuminated more brightly - and the driver still less blinded by the reflected light.
- When unlocking the vehicle, the locator /coming home lighting welcomes the driver by an extraordinary light show with changing colors.
The country light illuminates the vehicle side of the road and provides broader and brighter light than the conventional low beam. On the highway, the range of the light is increased by about 50 meters. If the Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus is turned on - and the high-beam active - the light distribution is adjusted for optimal highway driving.
The active turning light function allows the headlights to swivel into the corner, and when combined with the Lane Departure or the Driving Assistance package a predictive curve detection is also possible. The active light is illuminated before the steering wheel is turned into the curve and before departing from the curve (by means of the information attached to the windscreen-mounted camera). The active light function is thus independent of whether navigation data is available.
With an additional light source (LED) and a specific steering wheel angle the cornering light switches on automatically. In addition, the light is activated when reversing and when switching on the turn signals below 40 km/h Enable (activating and deactivating by dimming). In conjunction with COMAND Online the positions of roundabouts on the route are determined, and the cornering light is activated before entering it.
Below 70 km/h - and as soon as the rear fog light is turned on - the enhanced fog lights are activated. This swivels the headlights on the driver's outward by eight degress, and in parallel the light cone is lowered and the outer half of the road is illuminated better and brighter. The enhanced fog lamps remain active up to 100 km/h.
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MB just published an article about the W136 and the E's history, including production numbers.
Beautiful silhouette against a homely backdrop: Mercedes-Benz 170 V from the W 136 series, built from 1947 onwards
World premiere 80 years ago: In the genes of the E-Class: The Mercedes-Benz 170 V of 1936
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a success story with a great tradition. One of its forebears is the Mercedes-Benz 170 V, which was presented to the world public in February 1936. Driving comfort, downsizing and lightweight construction: these were just some of the features of this car, which also impressed with its new four-cylinder engine and spacious interior despite compact dimensions.
15 February 1936 was an important day for Mercedes-Benz. At the International Automobile and Motorcycle Exhibition (IAMA) in Berlin, the brand for the first time presented the completely newly developed 170 V (W 136), an extremely modern vehicle in the upper medium class. It was to be of decisive importance for the then Daimler-Benz AG, both before and after the Second World War – production only ceased in August 1953.
With the 170 V, the developers took a completely new approach to automobile design within comparatively compact dimensions. The chassis was based on an oval-tubular X-frame which was more torsionally rigid and also 80 kilograms lighter than a comparable box-frame. All in all the total weight was reduced by 100 to 120 kilograms (depending on the body type) compared to the direct predecessor, the Mercedes-Benz 170 (W 15) of 1931. The 170 V was powered by a new four-cylinder engine with a displacement of 1.7 litres and an output of 28 kW (38 hp) – it had two fewer cylinders, but considerably more power than the previous six-cylinder engine with 24 kW (32 hp). This makes the newcomer a precursor to today's downsizing. The maximum speed of the 170 V was also 18 km/h higher than that of the preceding model.
Mercedes-Benz Type 170 V ambulance (W 136 I series) of 1946
Spacious interior and a "floating engine"
The 170 V was an extremely comfortable car. This was ensured by e.g. its independent suspension, but also by the spaciousness of the interior, which was superior to the model 170 thanks to the longer wheelbase. There were other reasons for the good ride comfort: many specialists confirm that the 170 V was very smooth-running, with good long-distance attributes. This was in some measure due to the sophisticated engine mounting. The "floating engine", as it was officially known, was mounted on the frame at two points where the oscillation axis passed through the centre of mass. As a result the four-cylinder had vibration characteristics approaching those of a six-cylinder engine.
The Mercedes-Benz 170 V was available in numerous body variants, typically reflecting the popular taste at the time: two-door saloon, four-door saloon, four-door convertible, roadster, Cabriolet A, Cabriolet B and open tourer. A delivery panel van was also available for commercial applications. The 170 V was also used as a basis for sporty derivatives and military vehicles.
As a package with outstanding attributes, the Mercedes-Benz 170 V became a runaway success right from the start. 91,048 units had been produced by the time the war brought the first production period to an end in 1942. This made it the brand's most successful passenger car to that date.
Mercedes-Benz 170 V Cabriolet B (W 136), 1939
Trailblazer for the brand's post-war resurgence
Germany lay in ruins after the Second World War, and production was at a standstill at the then Daimler-Benz AG. By as early as the end of 1945, the company was however granted a production permit by the occupying allied force. Panel vans, pickups and ambulances based on the 170 V already began leaving the production lines in May 1946 – a focused portfolio that shows the vehicle types to which most day-to-day importance was attached at the time. Passenger car production recommenced in July 1947, and constant further development work kept the 170 V technically up-to-date. After the war the company produced another 49,367 units of this model, before its production ceased in August 1953. The respectable total production figure was therefore 140,415 units.
Mercedes-Benz 170 V Roadster (W 136), gouache by Leibach dated 1937
The people behind the Mercedes-Benz 170 V
A large team stood behind the 170 V presented in 1936. It was initially the brainchild of the Executive Board member for development, Dr. Hans Nibel, whose sudden death in November 1934 advanced Max Sailer to the same position. As head of engine design and senior engineer since the merger that formed Daimler-Benz AG in 1926, Albert Heeß was responsible for all vehicle engines and therefore also for the development of the four-cylinder M 136 used in the 170 V. As head of vehicle design and senior engineer, Max Wagner had already worked under Nibel at Benz & Cie., and both were proponents of the independent suspension. Under Wagner's aegis the early efforts culminated in the 170 V, including the oval-tubular X-frame. As head of testing at the time, Fritz Nallinger was responsible for the series production maturity of the new medium-class car. Working under him on the project was a young engineering technician whose name was also destined to become well-known: Rudolf Uhlenhaut.
Source: Daimler
Beautiful silhouette against a homely backdrop: Mercedes-Benz 170 V from the W 136 series, built from 1947 onwards
World premiere 80 years ago: In the genes of the E-Class: The Mercedes-Benz 170 V of 1936
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a success story with a great tradition. One of its forebears is the Mercedes-Benz 170 V, which was presented to the world public in February 1936. Driving comfort, downsizing and lightweight construction: these were just some of the features of this car, which also impressed with its new four-cylinder engine and spacious interior despite compact dimensions.
15 February 1936 was an important day for Mercedes-Benz. At the International Automobile and Motorcycle Exhibition (IAMA) in Berlin, the brand for the first time presented the completely newly developed 170 V (W 136), an extremely modern vehicle in the upper medium class. It was to be of decisive importance for the then Daimler-Benz AG, both before and after the Second World War – production only ceased in August 1953.
With the 170 V, the developers took a completely new approach to automobile design within comparatively compact dimensions. The chassis was based on an oval-tubular X-frame which was more torsionally rigid and also 80 kilograms lighter than a comparable box-frame. All in all the total weight was reduced by 100 to 120 kilograms (depending on the body type) compared to the direct predecessor, the Mercedes-Benz 170 (W 15) of 1931. The 170 V was powered by a new four-cylinder engine with a displacement of 1.7 litres and an output of 28 kW (38 hp) – it had two fewer cylinders, but considerably more power than the previous six-cylinder engine with 24 kW (32 hp). This makes the newcomer a precursor to today's downsizing. The maximum speed of the 170 V was also 18 km/h higher than that of the preceding model.
Mercedes-Benz Type 170 V ambulance (W 136 I series) of 1946
Spacious interior and a "floating engine"
The 170 V was an extremely comfortable car. This was ensured by e.g. its independent suspension, but also by the spaciousness of the interior, which was superior to the model 170 thanks to the longer wheelbase. There were other reasons for the good ride comfort: many specialists confirm that the 170 V was very smooth-running, with good long-distance attributes. This was in some measure due to the sophisticated engine mounting. The "floating engine", as it was officially known, was mounted on the frame at two points where the oscillation axis passed through the centre of mass. As a result the four-cylinder had vibration characteristics approaching those of a six-cylinder engine.
The Mercedes-Benz 170 V was available in numerous body variants, typically reflecting the popular taste at the time: two-door saloon, four-door saloon, four-door convertible, roadster, Cabriolet A, Cabriolet B and open tourer. A delivery panel van was also available for commercial applications. The 170 V was also used as a basis for sporty derivatives and military vehicles.
As a package with outstanding attributes, the Mercedes-Benz 170 V became a runaway success right from the start. 91,048 units had been produced by the time the war brought the first production period to an end in 1942. This made it the brand's most successful passenger car to that date.
Mercedes-Benz 170 V Cabriolet B (W 136), 1939
Trailblazer for the brand's post-war resurgence
Germany lay in ruins after the Second World War, and production was at a standstill at the then Daimler-Benz AG. By as early as the end of 1945, the company was however granted a production permit by the occupying allied force. Panel vans, pickups and ambulances based on the 170 V already began leaving the production lines in May 1946 – a focused portfolio that shows the vehicle types to which most day-to-day importance was attached at the time. Passenger car production recommenced in July 1947, and constant further development work kept the 170 V technically up-to-date. After the war the company produced another 49,367 units of this model, before its production ceased in August 1953. The respectable total production figure was therefore 140,415 units.
Mercedes-Benz 170 V Roadster (W 136), gouache by Leibach dated 1937
The people behind the Mercedes-Benz 170 V
A large team stood behind the 170 V presented in 1936. It was initially the brainchild of the Executive Board member for development, Dr. Hans Nibel, whose sudden death in November 1934 advanced Max Sailer to the same position. As head of engine design and senior engineer since the merger that formed Daimler-Benz AG in 1926, Albert Heeß was responsible for all vehicle engines and therefore also for the development of the four-cylinder M 136 used in the 170 V. As head of vehicle design and senior engineer, Max Wagner had already worked under Nibel at Benz & Cie., and both were proponents of the independent suspension. Under Wagner's aegis the early efforts culminated in the 170 V, including the oval-tubular X-frame. As head of testing at the time, Fritz Nallinger was responsible for the series production maturity of the new medium-class car. Working under him on the project was a young engineering technician whose name was also destined to become well-known: Rudolf Uhlenhaut.
Source: Daimler
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^ And its designer revealed some secrets recently.
2017 Mercedes E-Class design boss reveals styling secrets
2017 Mercedes E-Class head of design, Drummond Jacoy, opened up to Autocar, confessing about the styling future for the brand and, of course, all the secrets behind the new sedan.
Described by its own creator, the new E-Class is seen as a consistent leap forward for Mercedes, caught up in the midst of a complete design overhaul. How much of a leap, though?
“A quantum leap. Firstly, the proportions of the vehicle are astonishing for us, and the efficiency of it, too. The other big step is its intelligence – the kit we’ve got in there, from the human-machine interface to the driver assistance systems. Having all of that in one vehicle is the big step. That’s the feeling that we have about this new E-Class,” Drummond Jacoy explains.
When asked about the styling secrets behind the process of turning an E-Class into an instantly recognizable member of the Mercedes family, Jacoy revealed he “stretched the wheelbase, shortened the overhangs and given it an enormous coupé-like silhouette, and in doing that also kept the space inside”.
The father of the 2017 Mercedes E-Class was not similarly candid when the interview veered towards the future strategy of the brand, though: “We’re not going to change our product strategy completely – the Estate will follow towards the end of this year, and we have a few other things planned too.”
Last, but not the least, Drummond Jacoy strongly defended Mercedes’ current design strategy against fears concerning a possible Russian Doll butterly effect in the immediate future. “We think there is a lot of differentiation in there. We decided to go down this route because we want people to recognise our family. We think that within that family each car has its own individual aspects,” he said.
http://mercedesblog.com/mercedes-e-class-design-boss-confeses-to-autocar/
2017 Mercedes E-Class design boss reveals styling secrets
2017 Mercedes E-Class head of design, Drummond Jacoy, opened up to Autocar, confessing about the styling future for the brand and, of course, all the secrets behind the new sedan.
Described by its own creator, the new E-Class is seen as a consistent leap forward for Mercedes, caught up in the midst of a complete design overhaul. How much of a leap, though?
“A quantum leap. Firstly, the proportions of the vehicle are astonishing for us, and the efficiency of it, too. The other big step is its intelligence – the kit we’ve got in there, from the human-machine interface to the driver assistance systems. Having all of that in one vehicle is the big step. That’s the feeling that we have about this new E-Class,” Drummond Jacoy explains.
When asked about the styling secrets behind the process of turning an E-Class into an instantly recognizable member of the Mercedes family, Jacoy revealed he “stretched the wheelbase, shortened the overhangs and given it an enormous coupé-like silhouette, and in doing that also kept the space inside”.
The father of the 2017 Mercedes E-Class was not similarly candid when the interview veered towards the future strategy of the brand, though: “We’re not going to change our product strategy completely – the Estate will follow towards the end of this year, and we have a few other things planned too.”
Last, but not the least, Drummond Jacoy strongly defended Mercedes’ current design strategy against fears concerning a possible Russian Doll butterly effect in the immediate future. “We think there is a lot of differentiation in there. We decided to go down this route because we want people to recognise our family. We think that within that family each car has its own individual aspects,” he said.
http://mercedesblog.com/mercedes-e-class-design-boss-confeses-to-autocar/
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I've noticed that in several recent interviews with M-B design department spokespersons, references to a "coupe-like silhouette" have been made. Sorry, but I really do not see it. In fact, the W213 appears far more the "upright, 3-box sedan". Even moreso when compared to its' competitors.
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The reason he is saying that is because the new E-class has a much more rounded and flatter greenhouse compared to the W212 and the angle or rake of the back window together with lower back roof line give the car a "coupe like silhoette". If you compare the W213 to its rivals, the 5-series doesn't look anymore coupe like in my opinion, its greenhouse doesn't look any flatter with almost same rake angle of rear screen and the same with the Volvo S90. The Audi A6 and especially Jaguar XF are much more coupe like, they have thinner flatter greenhouse and more raked rear screen.
W212:
W213:
BMW F10:
Audi A6:
Jaguar XF:
Volvo S90:
W212:
W213:
BMW F10:
Audi A6:
Jaguar XF:
Volvo S90:
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Suspect they may be alluding to this?
http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/the-best-looking-4-door-coupe-is.50308/#post-683928
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Hi folks, new member here with my first post. Does anyone know when the UK will get the petrol engines on the W213. Can't believe there will only be diesels in the UK!! I don't drive enough miles for a diesel to be worthwhile, and, anyway the wife prefers the sounds of a petrol engine
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Welcome to GCF.
In June more engine options become available to order in Germany, and this may also include the UK. More info might also be revealed during the upcoming press drives in March or April, before the E arrives at the dealerships starting on 9 April 2016, followed by the SLC and SL a week later.It will perform just like its predecessors.
It will be the safest car in its class and some people will say "Yes, I would buy one" except they will not. They will buy the E-class instead.
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@EClassUKFan welcome to GCF, hope you enjoy and we are looking forward to you sharing your views and thoughts of different cars. 
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Is there still a market for petrol e class in UK?
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