E-Class (W213/C238/A238) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class W213

[GTA45E]

China's displacement tax.
This might have motivated MB AMG to downsize the V8. Pity the rest of the world pays the price for that.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Yeah the m156 was a BIG 6.2. Just going towards the fact that there both 4 litres, seems small for an E class (the previous was 5.5 if I'm correct).

Obviously it will be extremely powerful, no doubt about, but just seems like a small displacement for an AMG midsize sedan.

Here's my question to you: Does displacement of the engine really matter if the car is likely going to outperform the W212 chassis on the track in every single metric? Not to mention, the W213 is rumored to be putting out close to 600 HP.

 

[domleo999]

Here's my question to you: Does displacement of the engine really matter if the car is likely going to outperform the W212 chassis on the track in every single metric? Not to mention, the W213 is rumored to be putting out close to 600 HP.

*long sigh*

As I mentioned previously "obviously it will be extremely powerful"

I know the potential HP figures

IMO a 4 litre is small for an E63, not small in performance, but small in comparison to history.

When did i mention it would be inferior to the previous 5.5?

I welcome the 4L in C, It's a very good engine as already demonstrated, but in a very expensive midsize sedan? Time will tell

 

[DexterMorgan]

I still don't understand your stance. You consider a 4l small for a mid-size sedan but the engine is alright for a full-on sports car like the GT S?

I guess some folks are still locked in the old ideology that there is 'no replacement for displacement'. I disagree.

 

[domleo999]

I still don't understand your stance. You consider a 4l small for a mid-size sedan but the engine is alright for a full-on sports car like the GT S?

Thats exactly what i think, 4L displacement is small for a Mercedes AMG midsize

 

[DexterMorgan]

Thats exactly what i think, 4L displacement is small for a Mercedes AMG midsize

I'll make it a point to stay away from you when they put the 4l in the S63.

If you're mad now, I can't imagine how you'll feel then.

 

[domleo999]

I'll make it a point to stay away from you when they put the 4l in the S63.

If you're mad now, I can't imagine how you'll feel then.

Like this:

 

[frenchie]

$52150 base Msrp for E300 in USA

 

[Yaz]

That sounds like a lot for a 4 cylinder.
That's where the current W212 E350 starts.

 

[Amat46]

Thats exactly what i think, 4L displacement is small for a Mercedes AMG midsize

and what exactly has engine displacementn got to do with the performance of a car? We are not living in the

 

[domleo999]

and what exactly has engine displacementn got to do with the performance of a car? We are not living in the

I'm aware what year we are in

I know downsizing isn't detrimental to performance - I Just expect an E63 to have a bigger engine

That is all

 

[SKY]

The new E63 looks amazing to be honest. It reminds me a lot to the W211 E63, a nice mix of elegante and aggressiveness. Notice how the rims are very similar to the ones that debuted with the S-Coupe Concept in 2013.

 

[martinbo]

Strangely we now live in a world where engine "size" is less about displacement and more about BMEP.

 

[gmeup]

I'm aware what year we are in

I know downsizing isn't detrimental to performance - I Just expect an E63 to have a bigger engine

That is all

I do to but mark my words MB BMW and other car manufacturers will continue to downsize the engine capacity for the simple reason of increasing fuel efficiency and reducing emission while still increasing performance.

 

[Rolf]

Thats exactly what i think, 4L displacement is small for a Mercedes AMG midsize

We all maybe in disagreement and not happy with the moves in the car industry for downsizing, but its the way forward at the moment and who knows maybe in the future the top AMG model will be a 2.5ltr twin electric turbo 4 cylinder. I am one who likes the idea of a NA big capacity engine, especially a massive V8 but nowadays and in future those engines will be extinct like dinosaurs

 

[frenchie]

That sounds like a lot for a 4 cylinder.
That's where the current W212 E350 starts.

$53100 is current E
Lot more standard equipment as well

 

[Merc1]

$52150 base Msrp for E300 in USA

DO you have the full pricing for all the 2017 models? I see a lot of the AMG pricing has been released.

M

 

[frenchie]

DO you have the full pricing for all the 2017 models? I see a lot of the AMG pricing has been released.

M

AMG SLC 43
$60,300
Summer 2016
MY17 GT
AMG GT
$111,200
Summer 2016
AMG GT S
$131,200
Summer 2016
MY17 SL
AMG SL63
$151,350
Summer 2016
AMG SL65
$219,850
Summer 2016

 

[HUTSUTAo]

From benz blogger


The 2017 Mercedes-Benz E300 should arrive very soon.

The MSRP was just announced: $52,150!

This is almost $1000 LESS than the current E-Class and when you factor in some of the new standard features it is approximately a 10% value enhancement.

New, standard features:

• COMAND navigation, and its 3 inch high-resolution display and Touchpad Controller
• 9G-Tronic 9-Speed Transmission w/ DYNAMIC SELECT drive programs
• Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto®
• Industry-first Touch Control Buttons on the steering wheel
• Industry-first PRE-SAFE® SOUND
• Active Brake Assist forward collision warning system
• Full LED headlamps and tail lamps
• Five years of mbrace® connect including remote start
• Car-to-X Communication
• Sirius XM®
• 40/20/40 split-folding rear seat
• 64-color ambient lighting
• Power folding and dimming mirrors

 

[DJRaze99]

What a sound!

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