E-Class W212 [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W212)

[Wolfgang]

MBUSA has not yet released the E400 HYBRID as far as I can tell. Maybe they'll cancel it?
GM recently cancelled their SUV Hybrids:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/31/gm-cancels-next-gen-hybrid-truck-suv-program/

 

[Mr. M]

i just wonder what would be the image impact/problem if Mercedes/BMW/Audi hadn't done the hybrid thing. Clearly a diesel is better, but they were dragged into this by the market and the competition. These German hybrids just don't make sense, especially those that try to emphasize power + efficiency instead if frugality/MPGs. I'm starting to think they Germans should have just stuck to their guns with diesels, but their hybrids just don't sell, at least in the U.S. Their diesels do better.

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It seems like for the luxury segment, Lexus seems to be the most stalwart defender of hybrids, the only one to have it as its core identity (eg. all flagships are hybrids). Yes, I believe the Germans should have stuck to their guns with diesels - but maybe it isn't so practical in Asian countries where petrol engines are still seen as a superior. Perhaps they did it due to the image issue, which is particularly important for China and India. Overall, I think it is a sound strategy to have a direct answer to Lexus and Infiniti... and still have diesels at the same time.

 

[Wolfgang]

Another option, Model S with 89 MPG EPA combined?

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/specs
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=32557

 

[Merc1]

It seems like for the luxury segment, Lexus seems to be the most stalwart defender of hybrids, the only one to have it as its core identity (eg. all flagships are hybrids). Yes, I believe the Germans should have stuck to their guns with diesels - but maybe it isn't so practical in Asian countries where petrol engines are still seen as a superior. Perhaps they did it due to the image issue, which is particularly important for China and India. Overall, I think it is a sound strategy to have a direct answer to Lexus and Infiniti... and still have diesels at the same time.

I guess as long as they have the R&D budget to perfect both technologies then I guess it works. However just as some posts above point out, cars like the E400 are just outclassed within MB's own lineup and by the BMW 528i. I just don't ever see myself wanting or owning a hybrid outside of hyper sports car hybrid like the Porsche 918. Otherwise it just isn't worth it to me.


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[Kowalski]

Another option, Model S with 89 MPG EPA combined?

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/specs
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=32557

The Mercedes-Benz E350 Bluetec is better and cheaper.

 

[K-A]

It looks really good in that pic.

 

[Kowalski]

The tossers from Autocar are so unbelievably lazy that they posted a picture of the saloon version instead of the estate.

 

[Yaz]

For KA:

 

[tennmb]

A proper hybrid. If you are going hybrid, the 4 banger diesel is the perfect mate.
What does 62.8 translate into for US mpg?

 

[K-A]

For KA:

The horror! Not on U.S soil!

 

[Betty Swollocks]

A proper hybrid. If you are going hybrid, the 4 banger diesel is the perfect mate.
What does 62.8 translate into for US mpg?

62.8 mpg (UK) is equivalent to 52.3 mpg (US).

 

[tennmb]

Wow! If that is accurate, then kudos. I've always said if you can't hit that 50mpg mark with a hybrid, then why bother.

 

[Wolfgang]

2013 Mercedes-Benz GL350 Bluetec, ML350 Bluetec, E350 Bluetec and S350 Bluetec Release Date is October 16th!

The 2013 diesels have been released! They should start shipping to dealerships in the next few days and arrival time will depend on trucking. Luckily my dealership is near the factory so we should see them soon!

BenzBlogger » Blog Archiv » 2013 Mercedes-Benz GL350 Bluetec, ML350 Bluetec, E350 Bluetec and S350 Bluetec Release Date is October 16th!

 

[Kowalski]

Automated Distronic Plus or good reflexes?

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[Yaz]

Luck!
Distronic+ would have stopped the car. This should be a nice test for the new 6D cameras.

 

[tennmb]

Distronic + would not stop the car because the cruise would not have been on.
Pre-safe brake would not have stopped the car at that speed. Would only reduce the speed. It will not stop a car completely because it only notifies at 2.6 seconds prior to impact. And only applies full brake pressure at 0.6 seconds.
If you'd like to see at differing speeds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3fxQxPVd4s

 

[941benz]

MBUSA finally added E400. 24 city 30 highway, 26 combined. They didn't even get 27 mpg combined as promised.

 

[Kowalski]

Distronic or not, that was an epic save.

 

[Merc1]

Too bad it doesn't actually sound like that.

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[K-A]

It looks pretty amazing in that video. Every image concerning the frontal profile of the current W212 is epic, IMO.