E-Class (W213/C238/A238) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupé (C238)

[klier]

This generation E-Class Coupe is a return to form for the E-Class coupe. The CLK wasn't even based on the E-Class and it was not even close to being a true E-Class coupe.

The CLK came as a 55 AMG, Black Series and DTM, while the current and previous E coupe don't come with the strong AMG engines. AMG is somehow excluding the E coupe from the proper AMG '63' treatment and in that sense I think it plays second fiddle to the sedan. Like how the AMG GT sedan (which is also another E class variant) now makes the CLS go without the biggest AMG engine.

Or to put it in another way that might not get your panties in a twist: I want to see proper hardcore 600 hp versions of the E coupe and CLS. But particularly the E coupe because an E63S AMG coupe would be just fantastic. It's a great looking traditional coupe that begs for it.

You've driven the E53 Coupe to know that the engine is too weak?

No, nor have I any desire to do so. It seems weak because it looks like it is replacing the V8 in the range, and this I6 just is no V8 replacement.

 

[Centurion]

It's a great looking traditional coupe that begs for it.

Are you ok Klier? Has someone spiked your Friday drink? I don't remember the last time you complimented a Mercedes.

No, nor have I any desire to do so. It seems weak because it looks like it is replacing the V8 in the range, and this I6 just is no V8 replacement.

The 53 AMG is not a substitute for the E63. It's a S6 and 550i competitor. It's fast but a E63 is faster, sounds more godlike and is sportier.

 

[fortuner]

I think the E coupe is a beautiful car here in UK you can already see it's a sales success you see many of them all over.

I also think this is a proper E coupe unlike the previous gen and I think it's a perfect Mercedes middle coupe.

Regarding AMG yeah would love a 63 motor I guess AMG and Mercedes did their numbers and feel if they have a 53 mite be enough.

I think the 53 reviews have been very positive so far so yeah I guess we know MB and AMG are happy with 53 motor only.

 

[klier]

Are you ok Klier? Has someone spiked your Friday drink?

Just had a cup of mushroom soup actually. Very nice.

The 53 AMG is not a substitute for the E63. It's a S6 and 550i competitor.

That's my whole point. There should be a regular non AMG V8 in between the AMG 53 and AMG 63.
Arguably the 53 AMG isn't even competition to the current M550i, let alone next year's M550i. Power wise that updated V8 is at least a full class above the 53 AMG engine.

 

[Merc1]

The CLK came as a 55 AMG, Black Series and DTM, while the current and previous E coupe don't come w...

So what, again do you just not grasp that the CLK was based on the C_Class? Every single CLK was C-Class with an E body. The new E Coupe is the real item whether you like it or not. The previous E-Class coupe was a joke compared to this model, inside and out. It isn't playing second fiddle to anything. A 600hp E Coupe and CLS would be great, but they aren't doing one for whatever reason, that doesn't mean that the 53 variants are somehow not worthy.

So in other words you don't have a clue about the I6 in the E_Class? It isn't replacing any AMG V8. It is replacing the CLK550 and the I6 E53 outclasses that car on paper in nearly every way. Like I said you're clueless about Mercedes products. Come back when you have something more to comment on besides the spec sheet, i.e. some experience.

M

 

[klier]

So in other words you don't have a clue about the I6 in the E_Class? It isn't replacing any AMG V8. It is replacing the CLK550 and the I6 E53 outclasses that car on paper in nearly every way.

More clues than you if you compare the power output of an old CLK to a new E class. Why don't you go even further back in time and tell us how much better this new engine is on paper compared to the old 6.0 V12?

No kidding this isn't replacing the AMG V8, that would make this story even more idiotic. This is replacing the regular V8, as seen in the S500, like I stated above but you chose to ignore.
This new 53 AMG is less powerful than MB's own regular V8. I call that a downgrade if you don't offer the V8 anymore.

 

[Merc1]

More clues than you if you compare the power output of an old CLK to a new E class. Why don't you g...

Nope you don't know what you're talking about. The old E550 coupe had 402hp and 443 lb-ft of torque, the E53 Coupe has 429 hp and 384 lb-ft of torque which is more HP but less torque, but it also has the EQ thing going. Not to mention that the E550 Coupe didn't have sporting bone in it's body. The E53 will likely be faster, we know it handles better and is a better drive. So again you don't know what you're talking about. You're virtually clueless about Mercedes products.

Are you not aware that the S500 I6 model is being SOLD IN ADDITION TO THE V8 S560 in Europe? If buyers want a V8 in the S they can still get one.

Sorry try again. NO ONE is going to call the old E500/550 Coupe superior to the E53 because it simply has more torque. The E53 Coupe will dust the E550 Coupe all day long, especially outside of a straight line.

M

 

[empower77]

Nope you don't know what you're talking about. The old E550 coupe had 402hp and 443 lb-ft of torqu...

Maybe off the line but isn’t this bigger and heavier? I would think the midrange on the old car would be a lot stronger..

 

[Merc1]

Maybe off the line but isn’t this bigger and heavier? I would think the midrange on the ol...

We'll see where EQ tech comes in.

M

 

[Grosser]

The E coupe andCLS have become afterthoughts in theMB lineup.
E coupe has always played second fiddle to the E class, and the CLK was the last 'real' E coupe.
AndCLS now suddenly has the AMG GT sedan artificially above it with the proper engines while being the exact same car.

BMW has such a car too, the 4er GC. Lovely to look at but a flawed '2nd rate'BMW without proper M model..

E Class coupe now is a proper car...without a proper engine. The creation of E63 Coupe would damage S63 coupe sales (probably IMO) so no full AMG for E coupe. And I understand you, CLK/E coupes had V8 and I think V8 is a luxury/sport statement that is needed in that upper class.

 

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[GTA45E]

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@15.59, weird to here the E53 start with no crank sound like a usual gas engine. (Anyone else notice?)
The EQ generator is responsible for that.

 

[Yaz]

Yeah, all 53's have no starters.

 

[HUTSUTAo]

Yeah, all 53's have no starters.

The cls350 too

 

[Merc1]

2019 Mercedes-AMG E 53 Coupe First Drive Review - AutoGuide.com


M

 

[martinbo]

I can "see you" in one of those, Marcus, a fine, fine looking automobile. If only they made it a bit more naughty in terms of its dynamic setup - I wish they'd offer a RWD-only variant - that would make for a car with a glorious duality.

 

[Merc1]

I can "see you" in one of those, Marcus, a fine, fine looking automobile. If only they made it a bit more naughty in terms of its dynamic setup - I wish they'd offer a RWD-only variant - that would make for a car with a glorious duality.

I'm torn between one of these "53" models and a RS5 Sportback. Fantasy garage would be a RS5 Sportback and a E53 Cabriolet.


M

 

[martinbo]

Tough, tough choice! RS5 SB is a belter too.

 

[Merc1]

I just can't wait for Mercedes to get all these new I6 cars in the showrooms. I will be driving them. I still haven't see the CLS53 either. I drove a CLK430 Cabrio for 6 years and loved it so I'm not sure why I'm hesitant to get another convertible for a daily driver. A E53 Cabrio would be a dreamy.

M

 

[Monster]

I just can't wait for Mercedes to get all these new I6 cars in the showrooms. I will be driving them. I still haven't see the CLS53 either. I drove a CLK430 Cabrio for 6 years and loved it so I'm not sure why I'm hesitant to get another convertible for a daily driver. A E53 Cabrio would be a dreamy.
M

I am surprised they haven't hit the showroom yet, even the dealership all the way in Sydney has just got the E 53 coupe and cabrio.