C-Class (W205) [Official] Mercedes-Benz C-Class (W205)

[leothepro]

thats a good point but i was hoping at least for SOME better performance than my current nissan. wonder if i will get it?

 

[Rolf]

Has Mercedes US released the performance figures for both C300 and C400? I am curious how fast their acceleration to 60mph will be!

 

[dtd]

thats a good point but i was hoping at least for SOME better performance than my current nissan. wonder if i will get it?

Of course, it will be better. Not day and night , but still better, since it is RWD. I used to have 1995 Nissan Maxima , it is lightweight, 0 to 60 about under 8s I have been happy and drove it to 213K miles. Now I drive a Toyota Sienna minivan and dream for the day to be back with the sedan. I like to try the diesel C, but it is going to be a long wait. You may want a nice , good performance but also a good gas mileage car. I think the new C will have that. The only problem is the price.
The new C300 should give you 27mpg (city/highway combined) and 0 to 60 about 7s.
dtd

 

[leothepro]

Of course, it will be better. Not day and night , but still better, since it is RWD. I used to have 1995 Nissan Maxima , it is lightweight, 0 to 60 about under 8s I have been happy and drove it to 213K miles. Now I drive a Toyota Sienna minivan and dream for the day to be back with the sedan. I like to try the diesel C, but it is going to be a long wait. You may want a nice , good performance but also a good gas mileage car. I think the new C will have that. The only problem is the price.
The new C300 should give you 27mpg (city/highway combined) and 0 to 60 about 7s.
dtd

my current nissan does 0-60 in about 6.5-6.6 seconds. so then its NOT better.

 

[dtd]

my current nissan does 0-60 in about 6.5-6.6 seconds. so then its NOT better.

I'm sorry, it is just my estimate. We have to wait for MB official number.It should be in that 6s ballpark . My number is just an estimate in real world driving. You won't see much different in a half second difference. Like I said, it should be fast enough for you to merge into traffic on daily basis. The difference between FWD and RWD is the weight distribution. You will find out the C is more balance than the Maxima on the road. At this point we all have to wait for test drive then we compare notes. Other than that, I'm not better than you.
dtd

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

The facelifted W204 interior is a million miles better in quality than the E90 and even F30. I have a 9 year old E90 without IDrive and the negatives of its interior is mainly the the rubber feel thin layer of material they use on the door grab handles and back center airvent surrounds which has peeled off or has started peeling off in some places and I believe this problem was still not solved on the facelifted E90. It really brings the interior down as the bare white colour of the plastic is showing through, otherwise my car interior is still solid and looking good, the wood trim is still shiny without any cracks and the leather on the seats still is without any wornout patches on the side bolsters. The facelifted W204 has better quality switches and command controller all in metal as well as the steering wheel of the sports versions is better to hold and feel than E90 wheels of the M sport versions.

That's exactly what happened to my aunt's 3 series. That thin rubberized coating that felt so good when new peeled away all over the place. It exposed bare white plastic on the steering wheel. On the door panels it even became sticky to touch and no amount of cleaning could get rid of this stickiness. That's a pretty poor outcome for a vehilce that is only 1/2 way through its life cycle. It only had 80,000km on the clock. It did remain solid and rattle free though.

Klier, say what you will about it's design, which is NOT what I was talking about, but in terms of durability the C's interior is beyond reproach. Our C-class remains perfectly in tact. The only damage evident is where my mothers rings have scratched the chrome on the door handles when she reaches up to open the door. Other than that it's as good as new.

 

[Rolf]

my current nissan does 0-60 in about 6.5-6.6 seconds. so then its NOT better.

The C250 does 6.6sec to 62mph according to Mercedes claimed figures so the C300 should do about 5.9 to 6.0sec to the same sprint, so to 60mph it will be about 5.5 to 5.6sec.

 

[Zafiro]

That's exactly what happened to my aunt's 3 series. That thin rubberized coating that felt so good when new peeled away all over the place. It exposed bare white plastic on the steering wheel. On the door panels it even became sticky to touch and no amount of cleaning could get rid of this stickiness. That's a pretty poor outcome for a vehilce that is only 1/2 way through its life cycle. It only had 80,000km on the clock. It did remain solid and rattle free though.

My father owned prefacelift and after 6 years , he sold it and with many kilometers on the speedo. Never ever did we explore any flaws with the interior, It was exactly the same when he sold the car. How did that happen with such a bad quality interior as you express it?

EDIT: apparantly Sweden have a better weather climate and more suited for BMW interiors than Australia and SA.

 

[martinbo]

The combination of heat and humidity can have a significant impact on the longevity of interior plastics. BMW E90s in South Africa have suffered similar quality issues - I saw this first hand in one of my employee's 320d.

 

[klier]

It's about how the car drives anyways. All is premium in this class.

 

[Rolf]

It's about how the car drives anyways. All is premium in this class.

The way a BMW 3 series and Mercedes Benz C-Class drives is always special and in a league above other medium and compact saloons. The feel of their steering, brakes and other controls just feels more finely tuned, more precise and more comfortable as well as quieter. Also the fact they are rear wheel drive also makes them have a unique driving experience. That's why they are always the cars to beat in this class.

 

[Jobin]

The facelifted W204 interior is a million miles better in quality than the E90 and even F30. I have a 9 year old E90 without IDrive and the negatives of its interior is mainly the the rubber feel thin layer of material they use on the door grab handles and back center airvent surrounds which has peeled off or has started peeling off in some places and I believe this problem was still not solved on the facelifted E90. It really brings the interior down as the bare white colour of the plastic is showing through, otherwise my car interior is still solid and looking good, the wood trim is still shiny without any cracks and the leather on the seats still is without any wornout patches on the side bolsters. The facelifted W204 has better quality switches and command controller all in metal as well as the steering wheel of the sports versions is better to hold and feel than E90 wheels of the M sport versions.

While I cannot comment on the quality of the facelifted W204 vs the E90 and F30, since I've never sat in one, I have not ever experienced any quality issues in the E90 or F30. I had a pre-facelift E90 for 4 years and it still looked brand new when I sold it. I also had a facelifted E90 for one year and I can't imagine the quality being any less than in the pre-facelift. I also have an F30 for two years now and it's the same news in there too.. My E46 interior was not that good however.

Wow, I really still think that the Msport steering wheel of the E90 is probably the best steering wheel ever! It's beautiful first of all, and is fat and 'grippy'. It is certainly a highlight of the Msport interior for me.

this pricing changes a lot for me. the c400 base price is too expensive, so now i have a choice to make. either keep the c400 but cancel most options, or downgrade to a c300 and keep the options. or if i really want to save, i can downgrade to the c300 and still cancel most options.

the thing i would like to know is what is the performance on the c300 like? 0-60 time? will it satisfy my sporty needs? im coming from a nissan with 255hp, so its kind of a bummer to "downgrade" on horsepower. im hoping its at least as fast as my nissan?

Go for the C400 with less options. You know you want to. You're most probably going to regret getting the C300 since you already have the semblance of doubt.

My estimate 0-62 in 5.9s. So 0-60 in 5.7s. I'm confident it will be faster than your Nissan.

The C250 does 6.6sec to 62mph according to Mercedes claimed figures so the C300 should do about 5.9 to 6.0sec to the same sprint, so to 60mph it will be about 5.5 to 5.6sec.

Totally agree.

My father owned prefacelift and after 6 years , he sold it and with many kilometers on the speedo. Never ever did we explore any flaws with the interior, It was exactly the same when he sold the car. How did that happen with such a bad quality interior as you express it?

EDIT: apparantly Sweden have a better weather climate and more suited for BMW interiors than Australia and SA.

Lol but as I said, my interior was also immaculate after 4 years too and I'm in SA! I don't agree with the 'poor' interior sentiments of the 3 series.

 

[Jobin]

Don't get me wrong though, the F30 interior looks like rubbish in comparison to the W205. The quality is overwhelming!

 

[Rolf]

Don't get me wrong though, the F30 interior looks like rubbish in comparison to the W205. The quality is overwhelming!

I sat in the W205 interior a few days ago and I was totally blown away by the quality and look of the interior, it is truly outstanding and makes the F30 interior look really cheap in comparison. The things that I liked a lot are the center console with piano black finish and the metal buttons for the AC/radio and electric windows, the door panel trim and speaker grills and the look and feel of the leather on the steering wheel and seats. The steering wheel looks and feels fantastic in the hands. The center iPad look screen to my eyes actually looks good with great graphics and the touch pad works okay but will take some time to get used to.

 

[Wolfgang]

From the press drive in Washington state.

 

[Jobin]

From the press drive in Washington state.

Beautiful pictures!
I've changed my mind so much but I've decided that I really want that colour.. Palladium silver I think.

So are there any C300 reviews from the press yet or is the C400 the only one available for press?

 

[Rainer271]

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[Yaz]

It's sad that MB is still behind on lighting technology when it's 2014. Everyone is already moving from xenon to LED's and MB is still stuck with halogens.

A $20k Toyota Corolla has xenon now and a $50k MB is rocking halogens.

 

[Jobin]

It's sad that MB is still behind on lighting technology when it's 2014. Everyone is already moving from xenon to LED's and MB is still stuck with halogens.

A $20k Toyota Corolla has xenon now and a $50k MB is rocking halogens.

Yeah it's sad. But it's because of crazy customers like us who would nonchalantly pay $2K for Full LEDs lol.
In the Corolla its purpose is to entice the buyer as a value proposition..

 

[Rainer271]

Mercedes-Benz plotting AMG Sport lineup to sit below fully-fledged AMG models - report

2014 Mercedes-Benz C-Class AMG Line

C450 AMG Sport to lead the way
A new report indicates Mercedes-Benz will introduce in a short while a sub-range of warm AMG Sport models.

Designed to take on BMW M Performance and other similar rivals, Mercedes-Benz's AMG Sport cars will slot above the standard versions but below the fully-fledged AMG versions. These cars will receive different exterior and interior styling along with uprated engines (both gasoline and diesel), bespoke chassis tuning and updated electronics.

One common characteristic of all AMG Sport models will be the wider tracks similar to those of the full AMG versions. The newly established sub-range of models will encompass cars from the A, C, E and S families but also from the GLA, GLK, M (including ML Coupe/MLC) and GL lineups.

The first model to pave the way will be the already rumored C450 AMG Sport packing an upgraded twin-turbo V6 3.0-liter sourced from the C400 but outputting an additional 34 bhp (25 kW) for a grand total of 367 bhp (274 kW). It is believed the model will be revealed later this year in both RWD and 4MATIC guises, possibly in October at the Paris Motor Show.

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