488 [2015-2019] [Official] Ferrari 488 GTB revealed with twin-turbo V8 engine

[Deleted member 25]

Proportions are epic.

 

[Frankie G]

I remember that one-off Stratos that was based on an F430. Now that's something that'd really pique my interest. Maybe something like that with the Giulia Quadro's twin-turbo V6 and you got-a-spicy-meatball!

Now I am hungry.

Very spicy indeed!

 

[Tarek]

488 Pista looks miles better than all those SP ones.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

A bit of a Ford GT vibe (the SP38).

 

[sako97]

Dunno

Front is ok. Rest is highly questionable.

I love how they don’t bother to do anything with the interior of these SP cars. That’d be my first area of concern.

 

[Tarek]

Nope.. fugly, sorry Ferrari. Pista all the way.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

The SP38's wheels are interesting.

 

[Monster]

The SP38's wheels are interesting.

I just think they are the fatter, more ugly and directional version of the one on the J50

 

[Star&Car]

Allroad editon,huh.

 

[Yaz]

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[Star&Car]

The rear is so interesting,looks like another car running into it's butt.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

The widow area is similar to that of the Ford GT

 

[kingjr9000]

From fchat:

488 replacement won't use the actual 510 hp V6 TT engine (that is the 488 engine cut by two cylinders). There is an all new V6TT with a different bank angle (and rumors say with much more power) that will be combined with an hybrid layout, exactly like the kind that Marchionne stated. All things I already knew: What I didn't knew is that there will be an Alfa Romeo version of that car as Marchionne told yesterday


Extra: Bold is mine

Yes, I read what he said everywhere, but the Alfa Romeo version of the 488 GTB replacement was the only thing I didn't already know since several months

So if the alfa version of the 488 (the 8c) is a carbon monocoque, then I'd think the 488 replacement itself will also be carbon fiber.

 

[Monster]

From fchat:

488 replacement won't use the actual 510 hp V6 TT engine (that is the 488 engine cut by two cylinders). There is an all new V6TT with a different bank angle (and rumors say with much more power) that will be combined with an hybrid layout, exactly like the kind that Marchionne stated. All things I already knew: What I didn't knew is that there will be an Alfa Romeo version of that car as Marchionne told yesterday

Is Ferrari really going to ditch the V8 TT for a V6 TT? The market is not going to like this.

 

[kingjr9000]

Is Ferrari really going to ditch the V8 TT for a V6 TT? The market is not going to like this.

Thats what he said. IMO, the only ones who are really going to car about this, are going to be fchat, and a select few owners. The majority of the market (stock market) really won't. They'll mostly care about the environment and what not. Plus, if the EU are really going to be banning new ICE and hybrid cars from being made or registered by 2035, then Ferrari are basically preparing their owners by going down slowly.

 

[Monster]

Thats what he said. IMO, the only ones who are really going to car about this, are going to be fchat, and a select few owners. The majority of the market (stock market) really won't. They'll mostly care about the environment and what not. Plus, if the EU are really going to be banning new ICE and hybrid cars from being made or registered by 2035, then Ferrari are basically preparing their owners by going down slowly.

Ferrari can do that, but what will Mclaren do?

 

[kingjr9000]

Ferrari can do that, but what will Mclaren do?

Thats the big question. The only thing I know about Macca is that they had a pure EV P1 mule running around, but after some time, they said it wouldn't work until around 2025 or so? But they themselves are also looking at pure ev supercars, and we already know lambo are planning to have a pure EV around the same time of 2025.

So lambo are planning on going from NA to hybrid, then to EV. While Mac may end up going from turbo to pure EV. Though I did hear rumors a while ago about the 570s replacement being v6 and hybrid. Whether that is still current or not, I have no clue. But, Mac also claimed that they will have nearly every model a hybrid around 2022. So maybe they're going to keep turbo v8-hybrid, until switching to pure EV with the P1 successor.

From what I know, Porsche are making a EV 918 successor, so theres that...

 

[kingjr9000]

New info: 488 replacement four engines output will be around 800 hp total power, with the possibility to go up towards 900 hp with the following VS

 

[Laurent T]

New info: 488 replacement four engines output will be around 800 hp total power, with the possibility to go up towards 900 hp with the following VS

If true, what will be the power of next hypercars then ? I know this is progress, but after some point... it tends to become pointless and too much for a supposed road going car.

 

[DataHunter]

Time for me to be a grumpy (young) man. I know this is going to sound like sacrilege, but even 700-ish PS sounds like too much for an entry-level sports car (to me, anyway).

Currently, there really isn't a point to it as far as performance is concerned: acceleration to 100 km/h is now purely limited by tire traction levels and launch control sophistication; even on a dry racetrack, you cannot use 100% of the engine's torque at any speed in first or second gear without breaking traction (i.e. below 120-ish km/h).

So, really... what's the point of adding another 100 or 200 horsepower to the car? Once power becomes irrelevant to acceleration at road legal speeds, you will need to look elsewhere for improvement.

This would be fine if there were a top speed war going on between manufacturers, but there just isn't. In fact, most of these vehicles are electronically limited to a predetermined top speed. LaFerrari and McLaren P1 are electronically limited to 350 km/h, and the the 488 gets stopped at 330 km/h* (de-restricted, the 488 is likely much faster):

Sure, you'll hit 200 or 300 km/h faster, but only the really hardcore car enthusiasts (like us) will care at all about that. Even then, it'll start getting absurd: tire and braking technology can only get so good, and you'll eventually hit a point where you won't really be able to use it at full throttle - even on a racetrack.

Of course, this argument has been made for decades. Even my favorite sports car of all time (the Ferrari 458) would likely have been seen as way too overpowered for an 'entry level' sports car if you were to have conceptualized it thirty or forty years ago. Cars are getting more powerful, and that's the way it's always been. Having said that, the points I made above still stand as valid reasons for why 700+ horsepower is almost totally unnecessary.

I still like the 488, but what's the real reason they're piling on an extra 100 horsepower? It looks good on the brochure, and it is a much bigger number than the "old" model.

*the chart on the left depicts full-load acceleration in top gear for both the Ferrari 458 (black dotted line) and Ferrari 488 (red solid line); the 458's acceleration curve drops to zero (the x-axis) at 325 km/h - the definition of drag-limited top speed. The 488 does not hit the x-axis (drag-limited top speed) at its claimed top speed of 330 km/h, however.