Cadillac CT6 [Official] Cadillac CT6 (2016)

[GTA45E]

I think it doesn't look bad at all. Personally I had hoped for a bit more of Elmiraj in it's design. Haven't got any idea of the look and feel of the interior. How the leather feels on skin, how the dashboard touches my fingers and how the fit and finish is. I have never sat in a Cadillac before. Can some of the american, or other more Cadillac afine, members fill me in on this?

Happy to respond Mick.
My first encounter with a Cadillac was my parents' Eldorado Biarritz. It looked exactly like the one in the photo, tires, color. My panents were classic car collectors, this was a while ago. I must have been around 5 or 6-years old. I was a car nut then and remember every detail about it. That car was built like a tank. Cadillac does not make them like this anymore.

I have been in the new CTS, by the looks of things in the CT6 I can tell the quality and materials of the dash and seats is about the same. I would put the new Cadillac interior quality and feel up there with Lexus if your familiar with those. The ergonomics in the interior, attention to detail and overall quality, (what you would call a level of excellence, premium symmetrical design and materials,) the Caddy is not quite there with the top three German makes because it has a sort of generic design and feel to it as opposed to the premium feel of the German makes.

So, would I call the new Cadillac a world car? it depends... if Lexus calls the LS a world car than so is the new Cadillac.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Happy to respond Mick

Thanks a lot GTA8.5

 

[GTA45E]

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No prob...
It appears the CT6 has all it takes to be the best handling large car in the segment.
I believe it will easily beat all the competition from Europe and Japan without breaking a sweat.

 

[SCOTT27]

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No prob...
It appears the CT6 has all it takes to be the best handling large car in the segment.
I believe it will easily beat all the competition from Europe and Japan without breaking a sweat.

I would hold off on that statement for now...

 

[GTA45E]

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No, I`m going to stick to my guns on this one.
I believe it will easily beat it`s immediate competition from BMW, Mercedes and Audi in terms of driving dynamics. The CTS already does this, the CT6 shouldn`t have a problem. (I`ll exclude the Maserati Quattroporte and Porsche Panamera, Those will be out of it`s price range.)

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[klier]

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No, I`m going to stick to my guns on this one

Well maybe for a little while, until the W123 appears. And then after that the G30.

 

[Mr Robert]

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No prob...
It appears the CT6 has all it takes to be the best handling large car in the segment.
I believe it will easily beat all the competition from Europe and Japan without breaking a sweat.

In what way? We know nothing at this point.

 

[GTA45E]

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We will soon enough.
The video just gave some bits for you to think about.
Weight savings is the key.

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Well maybe for a little while, until the W123 appears. And then after that the G30.

The Cadillac CT6 is a full size premium luxury performance sedan.
The mid-sized CTS is designed to compete with the models you just named.

 

[mdartisian]

To me it seems Cadillac is missing the point of the large luxury sedan. They are trying so badly to please the press that they are not understanding the market. Their main goal is trying to beat the Germans in handling. The ATS and CTS already won the prize of out handling their BMW competition. People gave them props, then went and bought a BMW.

Maybe the CT6 will be a more focused car in driving dynamics than the competition, but that's only because that was their main focus. The competition isn't solely focused on this so it isn't really a competition. Now as far as everything else it takes to be a successful large luxury sedan, this CT6 already lost to the Germans.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

I sat in the car today for a long time. I believe it was the regular wheelbase. However room on the back seat was compromised and the quality (possibly pre production) was not even close to the German competition. The A8 for example is in another league. Styling wise the car works. But the overall feel of the CT6 is not up to par. It cannot shake its American roots. Everyone who disagrees please sit in one first. I do not think this car to be serious competition to the Germans simply based on the 3700 lbs (Range Rover lbs and weight savings lol) and the other marketing slogans.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I sat in the car today for a long time. I believe it was the regular wheelbase. However room on the back seat was compromised and the quality (possibly pre production) was not even close to the German competition. The A8 for example is in another league. Styling wise the car works. But the overall feel of the CT6 is not up to par. It cannot shake its American roots. Everyone who disagrees please sit in one first. I do not think this car to be serious competition to the Germans simply based on the 3700 lbs (Range Rover lbs and weight savings lol) and the other marketing slogans.

A shame, I really had high hopes for the CT6. Maybe if they'd delayed it another 18 months, they could have given a more Elmiraj-inspired interior and exterior, but they'd miss out on entering the all-important Chinese market as soon as possible. @tristatez28lt1 , what was your sense on the exterior?

 

[ThroughandThrough]

From the videos I've seen at the NYIAS (poor stitching quality/lackluster interior per the reviewer) and the Cadillacs I've seen in person, I'm having a difficult time believing this paragraph on their website.

As I am a business major I understand that it is Cadillac's job to sell the CT6, but when Cadillac overuses phrases such as "exquisitely crafted", "highest quality materials", "hand stitched", "tailored with opulent details", and "class of its own", it's almost as if they believe that the more times you say something the more true they will become.

There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home.

 

[Mr Robert]

...and "class of its own"...

That doesn't necessarily imply a higher classs.

 

[ThroughandThrough]

That doesn't necessarily imply a higher classs.

Of course it doesn't.

But the marketing team is betting that most people will assume so.

 

[SCOTT27]

To me it seems Cadillac is missing the point of the large luxury sedan. They are trying so badly to please the press that they are not understanding the market. Their main goal is trying to beat the Germans in handling. The ATS and CTS already won the prize of out handling their BMW competition. People gave them props, then went and bought a BMW.

Maybe the CT6 will be a more focused car in driving dynamics than the competition, but that's only because that was their main focus. The competition isn't solely focused on this so it isn't really a competition. Now as far as everything else it takes to be a successful large luxury sedan, this CT6 already lost to the Germans.

It is interesting but European press could not find the similarities against European cars when tested over here which shows the stumbling block that Cadillac faces in Europe. Nobody is genuinely interested in an American luxury car.
For the time being I do not see anybody abandon German or even British made luxury cars for the CTS but now they are talking about potential Rolls-Royce rivals. Cadillac has a lot of brand building for European customers a lot of work to do especially in segments where cars have to be memorable the Cadillac is not as they end up like a facsimile of a BMW or Mercedes except its just not memorable or original enough. They might aim to capture BMWs typical sportiness and make great statements to that effect but they need originality why focus so much on beating BMW that they lose sight of the fact that to be memorable you have to be original. Which is why Cadillac ends up being especially in some of our executives eyes the "Wallmart" BMW.

 

[mdartisian]

"Walmart" BMW... Those are some fighting words.

If only Cadillac focused on redefining American luxury like how Bentley and Roll Royce define British luxury.

 

[rollo]

Maybe the interior will be improved before launch?

 

[sako97]

I posted this im my NYIAS thread:

The CT6 is a snooze fest in terms of styling and quality; it has the same GM image. Starting with the ATS, each model was intended to reinvent the brand, yet despite all the marketing and US magazine coverage, the CT6 does nothing for me and sluggish sales. Its a shame as I’m a big fan of classic Cadillacs and the recent concepts.

Apparently Cadillac purchased W222s & F01s for benchmarking; I wonder what the benchmarked. In this range, driving dynamics and stereo alone won’t poach big three owners. The K900 is better executed in my opinion.

Lots of matte black plastic and it looks similar to the XTS. Still has the unresponsive CUE system and GM parts bin buttons littered about.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

A shame, I really had high hopes for the CT6. Maybe if they'd delayed it another 18 months, they could have given a more Elmiraj-inspired interior and exterior, but they'd miss out on entering the all-important Chinese market as soon as possible. @tristatez28lt1 , what was your sense on the exterior?

The exterior looks good. I'm a fan. Doesn't seem as big as it really is. I believe with rigorous quality management the interior could get a better feel but my issue is not only about fitting and material quality. It's also a problem of American design. Just looking at the rear seat controls and the screen for example the first thing that came to mind was this could be a Chevy Malibu. Sad but true. If you do the same thing in an A8 or S class you just know you're sitting in something exclusive. I'll try to take some pictures today if it isn't too crowded.

 

[GTA45E]

I sat in the car today for a long time. I believe it was the regular wheelbase. However room on the back seat was compromised and the quality (possibly pre production) was not even close to the German competition. The A8 for example is in another league. Styling wise the car works. But the overall feel of the CT6 is not up to par. It cannot shake its American roots. Everyone who disagrees please sit in one first. I do not think this car to be serious competition to the Germans simply based on the 3700 lbs (Range Rover lbs and weight savings lol) and the other marketing slogans.

Thanks for the write-up. Some of those show cars are pre-production.
I`m going to wait for this car to hit the showroom for a test drive and interior review.
I will admit though, as much as I loved the drive of the CTS the interior quality did not feel up to par with it`s competition from Germany. I did not get the feeling that enough was invested in the full package like it should have been. It felt a little generic as I stated above.

I am not expecting the CT6 to fully match the S-Class or BMW 7-Series with refinement, features or orignality. It will not and most everyone here knows that. @Scott already knows the same thing and is using the originality of the German cars to slam Cadillac which is very old news.
We get the point already but I don`t think Cadillac is 50% less than it`s rivals.