Chiron [Official] Bugatti Chiron

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Agree! Chiron Successor and 812 Successor will bé a Epic year!

Don't have infos on F167 but Chiron Successor trust me it's something insane.

Expect a teaser next month.

F167 should be good if you’re to believe the people who’ve seen it on FerrariChat.

But a brand new Bugatti is a big deal and the first from Bugatti-Rimac, this will make or break them and according to you it will be insane.

Can’t wait till next month then.

 

[Tourbillon]

we also have the F250/LaFerrari replacement coming

Well the entire Holy Trinity needs replacing!

 

[Jonathan19]

we also have the F250/LaFerrari replacement coming

Well, unlike the successor to the Chiron, the F250 worries me a little.

I'm afraid it will be 'just' a 296 in a hypercar body.

 

[Tourbillon]

Well, unlike the successor to the Chiron, the F250 worries me a little.

I'm afraid it will be 'just' a 296 in a hypercar body.

The engine etc will be taken from the Le Mans racer. The V6 is differentiated, I believe the engine block etc.

But whatever it is it'll sell out completely before even being shown. Which neatly brings me to another hybrid, where the hell is the Czinger 21C deliveries? I'll need to take a look into it.

 

[Jonathan19]

The engine etc will be taken from the Le Mans racer. The V6 is differentiated, I believe the engine block etc.

But whatever it is it'll sell out completely before even being shown. Which neatly brings me to another hybrid, where the hell is the Czinger 21C deliveries? I'll need to take a look into it.

Yea, V6 look to be the new V8 for Ferrari.

Not really sure about the F250 since i have ZERO infos by sources.

Im sure it will be impressive by numbers.

Yea true! Where is the 21C!?

 

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I think the Chiron Successor will be a cut above the F250, Valkyrie, or AMG One and maybe even the Jesko.

Bugatti’s motto is “if comparable, no longer Bugatti”, so if they want to differentiate themselves they need to be above and beyond those cars. Like the Veyron was when it came out and the closest car were SLR, CGT, Ford GT and Enzo and they weren’t in the same league.

My hope is it will be something unbelievable.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

I think the Chiron Successor will be a cut above the F250, Valkyrie, or AMG One and maybe even the Jesko.

Bugatti’s motto is “if comparable, no longer Bugatti”, so if they want to differentiate themselves they need to be above and beyond those cars. Like the Veyron was when it came out and the closest car were SLR, CGT, Ford GT and Enzo and they weren’t in the same league.

My hope is it will be something unbelievable.

Yea and we already have the info in this thread about what it will be

 

[Jonathan19]

I think the Chiron Successor will be a cut above the F250, Valkyrie, or AMG One and maybe even the Jesko.

Bugatti’s motto is “if comparable, no longer Bugatti”, so if they want to differentiate themselves they need to be above and beyond those cars. Like the Veyron was when it came out and the closest car were SLR, CGT, Ford GT and Enzo and they weren’t in the same league.

My hope is it will be something unbelievable.

All I can say is that it's unique in every way!

 

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Yea and we already have the info in this thread about what it will be

Only a few details but not everything (I think). As far as I know it’s the following from @CroDra :

I have asked my friend about those recent reports about V8 hybrid.

His answer:
-no, this is false, V16 was planned from the beginning, and the engine is already developed
-design is almost finished, maybe there will be only minor adjustments in future
-yes, Q2 2024 debut, concept/preproduction car
-yes, production date probably wont be before 2026. Development is nowhere near finished, to make everything work is not easy obviously
-everything is bespoke and built from scratch, even buttons in interiour

 

[Jonathan19]

Only a few details but not everything (I think). As far as I know it’s the following from @CroDra :

Somes details (Some true and some not) yes but a lot are still secret!

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Only a few details but not everything (I think). As far as I know it’s the following from @CroDra :

Yes and there is more info in the Chiron successor thread such as high revving v16 na with two motors from the Nevera in the front plus supported by better, more evolved parts from the Nevera parts bin. Mate is a true car guy that he will create a masterpiece with this Bugatti - something wannabes such as Winkelmann coud never - thats why he was taken off and let him be the PR guy for Lambo.

 

[Rolf]

Yes and there is more info in the Chiron successor thread such as high revving v16 na with two motors from the Nevera in the front plus supported by better, more evolved parts from the Nevera parts bin. Mate is a true car guy that he will create a masterpiece with this Bugatti - something wannabes such as Winkelmann coud never - thats why he was taken off and let him be the PR guy for Lambo.

Wow if this is going to be a NA V16, then will this be a Lambo 9500RPM V12 with 4 extra cylinders added on? That will be pretty awesome and with 8 liters could be about 1020PS just the NA engine and with Nevera motors it could be 2500PS or more LOL!

 

[tristatez28lt1]

That’s the plan as far as I’ve heard, but could also be evolution of 2 Nevera front motors + V16/V18/W16/W18 naturally aspirated high revving mid motor + battery setup + third electric motor between engine and transmission. Horsepower matching or bettering the Nevera.

 

[SNB]

That’s the plan as far as I’ve heard, but could also be evolution of 2 Nevera front motors + V16/V18/W16/W18 naturally aspirated high revving mid motor + battery setup + third electric motor between engine and transmission. Horsepower matching or bettering the Nevera.

I think it has to better the Nevera and the Gemera. It needs to be the pinnacle of the automotive world.

 

[Tourbillon]

"The Chiron order book closed early last year, and the artisans at the brand’s Molsheim workshop are busy assembling customer cars until sometime in 2024."

https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/...ron-super-sport-review-obsessively-excessive/

Good News, I say.

 

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Rendering from Avarvarii, I like it tho not sure if the real thing is anywhere close:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0eYO-RKcGI/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

Also read a comment on instagram that said that the “N/A V16 will make 1800hp”.

 

[Tourbillon]

Rendering from Avarvarii, I like it tho not sure if the real thing is anywhere close:

Love the comment, 1800hp perhaps with hybrid drive hooked up possibly.

No chance whatsoever without with pure natural aspiration ONLY, because it's 80% more than the Aston Martin Valkyrie V12 roughly from memory.

Those servicing intervals wouldn't meet Bugatti clients standards anyway.

As for the render it's hideous, LOL!

 

[SNB]

Love the comment, 1800hp perhaps with hybrid drive hooked up possibly.

No chance whatsoever without with pure natural aspiration ONLY, because it's 80% more than the Aston Martin Valkyrie V12 roughly from memory.

Those servicing intervals wouldn't meet Bugatti clients standards anyway.

As for the render it's hideous, LOL!

Yes I agree the 1800hp from ICE only seems far fetched imo but I’d think this car would be 2,000hp+, don’t think Bugatti wants to be upstaged by the Gemera or the Nevera for that matter.

 

[Tourbillon]

Yes I agree the 1800hp from ICE only seems far fetched imo but I’d think this car would be 2,000hp+, don’t think Bugatti wants to be upstaged by the Gemera or the Nevera for that matter.

It's a very tricky one for sure. But if it's definitely a V16 then it'll put it head and shoulders above everything.

 

[A.P.]

It's a very tricky one for sure. But if it's definitely a V16 then it'll put it head and shoulders above everything.

V16 is gone forever after Mistral and Chiron Profilé, Bugatti themselves state so. "The final road going model with the iconic V16 engine."

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Even with a hybrid system, I think they will use a different engine. V12 perhaps?