X5 M / X6 M [Official] BMW X6 M Thread

[Betty Swollocks]

I hate to say this, as I am a lifelong BMW fan and I cannot imagine owning any other car, but this is just terrible in so many areas. Even leaving aside the fact they are launching an M version of an SUV, something which I don't think they should have done but I can see why they have, it just seems a rush job and very poorly executed.

* The front air dam looks like it's after-market and doesn't fit with the rest of the car.
* Standard looking shift lever with an "M" badge added.
* Unbelievably cheap looking "M" badge on the rear which doesn't fit in and in fact looks like it's been added afterwards by the driver.
* Wheels which are too small.
* Poor press pics and in a colour which doesn't show it in it's best light I'm sure. It looks like Melbourne Red, which is a good colour, but not in photos.


Finally, I hope they don't just stick this engine in the F10 M5. It should have it's own bespoke engine.
And why does the speedo only go up to 300km/h, when the M3's goes up to 330km/h?

 

[Zafiro]

According to the pressrelease its 20" wheels. Do you guys really want 22" wheels, just because its going to look good?

 

[VroomVroom]

 

[Sayyaaf]

Much better .. great chop.

 

[Centurion]

According to the pressrelease its 20" wheels. Do you guys really want 22" wheels, just because its going to look good?

Yes. 19-20 inch rims look perfect on large cars such as the S-class but SUVs need 21-22 sized rims for a dramatic appearance. But from a track point of view non SUV tires are the best choice and that's what you'll find on the Cayenne GTS as well.

 

[VroomVroom]

 

[Zafiro]

I'm not excited with this engine like I am with M3 V8. This is a engine that would look good in AMG.
Whats so special with this V8 TT, what does this engine differ from the competition?

At least the M3 engine is a high-reeving and with some fancy technology. I would rather see 520hp/500nm with a redline at 8200 rpm than 550hp/680nm and 7000 rpm.
Let the AMG boys bow down to torque and big HP numbers but in M model I rather see a engine that likes to rev.

Nah, I'm not feeling the direction BMW has taken. I don't like all the environment and fuel costs thats force BMW to take another direction. I'm really curious to see what's different with this engine compare to other Turbo engines. I also want to see how the driving experience is going to differ from a AMG model.

 

[Tarek]

Much better James

And AMG front bumper ttt is great

 

[GTA45E]

The best looking photos so far. Gosh I didn`t think BMW would pull this off. Low and behold!!!! I actually like this version. I hope it performs as good as it looks

 

[EnI]

Whats so special with this V8 TT, what does this engine differ from the competition?

This says it all:

The new M V8 engine with twin-scroll twin turbo technology uses a single exhaust manifold with tuned-length runners, incorporating both cylinder banks and connecting cylinders in carefully-selected pairs. This configuration, patented by BMW M and known as Cylinder-bank Comprehensive Manifold (CCM), offers lightning-quick response, a linear build-up of engine power, and a broad, consistent torque curve by feeding each of the twin turbochargers with a “charge pulse” at approximately every 90 degrees of crankshaft rotation, rather than the more traditional “irregular schedule” of charging.

It's basically a turbo engine with typical broadband peak-torque delivery, yet with typical NA-like linear & very responsive power delivery without any turbo-typical lag.

So, best of both worlds ...

The only missing feature are high revolutions, and thus a typical screaming / pitching engine sound.

M engineers managed to built a turbo engine which perform just like NA engine - excl. the high revs.

 

[SCOTT27]

I think it is the combination of the Red and poor light that really detracts the powerful appearance of the X6M . I know the Abu-Dhabi car of the X5 is Black and the X6M is White. These look a little better .
The wheels are of typical larger size but because the wheelarch cladding is now body coloured it adds more expanse to the car therefore shrinking the wheels.

The wheels looks more purposeful in contrasting metallic Black paintwork.
Also the absence of a licence plate is a huge no-no. Someone forgot their Munich pride.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Well I hate the negative vibe in this thread. The thing I am curious about is the performance, 0-100 is nothing BUT i want to hear more about the cars handling and slalom/track numbers. The cayenne had its time but I guess the platform of the X5/6 is more capable than the cayenne but it wasn't using its full potential until now.

BTW the engine is awesome in numbers, that N/A and high rev is irrelevant IMO, this car needs the torque to pull away really fast, otherwise we will end up with giant V8 or even V12 just to achieve acceptable numbers, so Smart move BMW and well done. Waiting for the reviews against others, just to confirm that it will trash them

 

[EMpower]

I think it is the combination of the Red and poor light that really detracts the powerful appearance of the X6M . I know the Abu-Dhabi car of the X5 is Black and the X6M is White. These look a little better .
The wheels are of typical larger size but because the wheelarch cladding is now body coloured it adds more expanse to the car therefore shrinking the wheels.

The wheels looks more purposeful in contrasting metallic Black paintwork.
Also the absence of a licence plate is a huge no-no. Someone forgot their Munich pride.

Seems like a newbie handling the shoot.

Are there any 21" wheels offered? Like the M3 has two sizes.

 

[Sunny]

Well I hate the negative vibe in this thread. The thing I am curious about is the performance, 0-100 is nothing BUT i want to hear more about the cars handling and slalom/track numbers. The cayenne had its time but I guess the platform of the X5/6 is more capable than the cayenne but it wasn't using its full potential until now.

BTW the engine is awesome in numbers, that N/A and high rev is irrelevant IMO, this car needs the torque to pull away really fast, otherwise we will end up with giant V8 or even V12 just to achieve acceptable numbers, so Smart move BMW and well done. Waiting for the reviews against others, just to confirm that it will trash them

Exactly. People don't realize a high revving NA engine is not going to cut it in a 5000lb truck. Different tools for different jobs.

As for all the negativity, yawn! we saw the same when M3 was revealed, on and on about how underwhelming it is. Till the real tests started and it stamped it's superiority over the competition. Of course BMW doesn't help by always botching the release and crappy pics getting leaked. Anyway, I can't wait to see this monster getting pitted against some 'sports cars'.

 

[Zafiro]

Exactly. People don't realize a high revving NA engine is not going to cut it in a 5000lb truck. Different tools for different jobs.

I do understand this but the next M5 is going to use a similar engine.. and we all know a high-reeving engine worked very good in a M5 before. There are Turbo engines reeving 8000 rpm so why cant BMW fix it?
BMW M has now become AMG, at least from engine point of view. Lol, even my underpowered babybimmer reving up to 7000 rpm.

 

[ACE]

Well I hate the negative vibe in this thread. The thing I am curious about is the performance, 0-100 is nothing BUT i want to hear more about the cars handling and slalom/track numbers. The cayenne had its time but I guess the platform of the X5/6 is more capable than the cayenne but it wasn't using its full potential until now.

BTW the engine is awesome in numbers, that N/A and high rev is irrelevant IMO, this car needs the torque to pull away really fast, otherwise we will end up with giant V8 or even V12 just to achieve acceptable numbers, so Smart move BMW and well done. Waiting for the reviews against others, just to confirm that it will trash them

Not everybody is excited about the direction that BMW M division is going with these overweight M tanks. Now maybe in the US and Middle East people like this direction but I for one, don't. The high centre of gravity on the X Ms (and other SUVs) makes them ill-suited to producing good "handling and slalom/track numbers". I am sure the numbers will be better than other SUVs on the market, but so what? If you want "handling and slalom/track numbers" then don't waste your time on an SUV. I really don't understand people that want a track ready version of an SUV.

I can't help but feel the brilliance of BMW M engineering could have been put to better use putting this wonderful new engine in a body that could have done it justice. For me, as a previous M3 owner, this is a sad day.

 

[chonkoa]

It is a turbocharged engine, there is nothing remarkable about more power with less displacement when turbos are involved.

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Actually it is. The physics becomes more complicated with you used forced induction system.

 

[Cashmere]

upon closer inspection of the pic, it seems even the ///M badge doesnt want to be stuck next to the X6. lol almost looks like its coming off. It could be lighting, but just shows how mediocre these press realease pics are.

I just wish BMW had rather given birth to a new division (eg tii,supersports,blah) and had these beefed up SUV's fall in that category. This car is way too anti "M" to wear the badge. It defies all the philosiphy on which M was developed. It almost feels like a betrayal.

 

[Merc1]

Actually it is. The physics becomes more complicated with you used forced induction system.

Again, there is nothing remarkable about a smaller engine with more power when it is turbocharged. The "physics becomes more complicated"? Really? Nearly every other car maker on earth has overcome any "complicated physics" involved with a turbo engine. Why are you reaching for something that isn't there?

Anyone can take a smaller displacement engine and turbocharge it and have it outperform larger, naturally aspirated engine. There are at least a half dozen car companies that do it all the time so this is hardly a BMW exclusive.


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[EnI]

BMW M has now become AMG, at least from engine point of view. Lol, even my underpowered babybimmer reving up to 7000 rpm.

Hi-rev NA engines are passé.