M3/M4 [Official] BMW M3 Sedan and M4 Coupe

[Palbay]

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[Rainer271]

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Hands up who thought 'Austin Yellow' was a brand new colour and debuted on the M4 Coupe? I certainly did. But on visiting my local BMW dealer in Holland, I saw a 318d F30 registered from May last year.

 

[Rainer271]

^It don´t need a M that this colour looks good.

 

[Zafiro]

 

[Merc1]

That Black M4 is the shite! Evil, yet gorgeous looking.

M

 

[bmwownage]

1) these things are just sizzling hot
2) wow the M4 works in the snow as well?
3) the standard F30 really needs a facelift soon.

 

[LaArtist]

1) these things are just sizzling hot
2) wow the M4 works in the snow as well?
3) the standard F30 really needs a facelift soon.

2. yeah cause previous generations used to shut down when the first snow flake hit the bonnet.

 

[Merc1]

Any M car will work just fine in the snow with the right tires.

M

 

[klier]

Any M car will work just fine in the snow with the right tires.

M

LOL.

Driving an M5 in the wet already is a challange.
But I'm sure sure you know all about M cars in snowy Texas.

2. yeah cause previous generations used to shut down when the first snow flake hit the bonnet.

Hahaha, I LOLed

 

[Zafiro]

Black 4 door M3

 

[Merc1]

LOL.

Driving an M5 in the wet already is a challange.
But I'm sure sure you know all about M cars in snowy Texas.

Just to prove how ignorant you are, we do actually get snow here from time to time and I'm from Chicago so yeah I know all about driving high performance cars in winter weather. It is too bad you don't know shite about anything being brainless.

M

 

[C4L]

LOL.

Driving an M5 in the wet already is a challange.
But I'm sure sure you know all about M cars in snowy Texas.

I worked with a guy who used his E93 M3 daily with a proper set of snow tires on the OE 18" wheels in the winter. Had the optional 19" wheels/tires for the summer. And in Michigan I think we get a fair bit of snow, no? (insert sarcasm) He drove almost 30 miles each way like this. And he replaced his E93 with an F10 M5 and does the same thing.

Just about ANY car with proper snow tires will work in the snow.

 

[martinbo]

Add modern stability + traction control systems coupled with a highly sophisticated limited slip rear differential and there shouldn't be nearly as much of a problem mooching about in an M-car properly shod with the right winter tyres.

 

[C4L]

Add modern stability + traction control systems coupled with a highly sophisticated limited slip rear differential and there shouldn't be nearly as much of a problem mooching about in an M-car properly shod with the right winter tyres.

Right. In fact, most of these newer RWD cars (sans exotics of course) with proper winter tires are better in the snow that most other cars (even AWD) with some run-of-the-mill OE A/S tires...

 

[klier]

Lovely. Would have taken with sh

I worked with a guy who used his E93 M3 daily with a proper set of snow tires on the OE 18" wheels in the winter. Had the optional 19" wheels/tires for the summer. And in Michigan I think we get a fair bit of snow, no? (insert sarcasm) He drove almost 30 miles each way like this. And he replaced his E93 with an F10 M5 and does the same thing.

Just about ANY car with proper snow tires will work in the snow.

I agree of course, I was just trying to say that BMWs aren't meant for snow when they don't have xDrive. Winter tires help tremendously of course, because without them the car would literally be undriveable in the snow.
Clearly you can drive in the snow with good tires, but you have to be careful, particularly with an M.

And like I already said, the fat beast M5 already is a challenge in the rain on summer tires. Can't even imagine that car in the snow. Maybe there's a member around here who can tell us what it's like to be in the snow on proper winter tires n F10 M5, because from all the Bimmers I have driven, none drive really well in the snow. And a BMW doesn't drive with summer tires in the snow....you can have lots of fun in the snow, but no safe driving.

@Merc1 you're cute, thanks so much for all your attention!!

 

[C4L]

Lovely. Would have taken with sh


I agree of course, I was just trying to say that BMWs aren't meant for snow when they don't have xDrive. Winter tires help tremendously of course, because without them the car would literally be undriveable in the snow.
Clearly you can drive in the snow with good tires, but you have to be careful, particularly with an M.

And like I already said, the fat beast M5 already is a challenge in the rain on summer tires. Can't even imagine that car in the snow. Maybe there's a member around here who can tell us what it's like to be in the snow on proper winter tires n F10 M5, because from all the Bimmers I have driven, none drive really well in the snow. And a BMW doesn't drive with summer tires in the snow....you can have lots of fun in the snow, but no safe driving.

@Merc1 you're cute, thanks so much for all your attention!!

You just made it sound like it can't be done and I know here in Michigan there are plenty of people who do it successfully and safely. I just think the tires are more of a factor than you convey. You act like it is somethign inherent with BMW that makes them less than ideal in inclimate weather when it reality it is the tires.

Of course the shitty run-flats they put on their products don't help things but then add to that that M GmbH products have ultra-high performance summer tires, of course rain and water dispersion become an issue. But that is a fault of the tires, not the car.

I have seen R8's and 911's in the snow. Trust me, some 3/4-Series or 5-Series (any iteration) is just fine, provided you have the right tires.

Hell, tirerack even does lot of their testing with 3-Series BMW's with RWD. I haven spoken with folks at C&D who say they still prefer snow tires on a RWD to A/S tires on anything else...

http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/snow-tires-still-beat-four-wheel-drive

 

[Mr Robert]

Add modern stability + traction control systems coupled with a highly sophisticated limited slip rear differential and there shouldn't be nearly as much of a problem mooching about in an M-car properly shod with the right winter tyres.

Given these things, they will probably work better than most. Problem is places where you don't have to use winter rubber in the winter.

And I'm late to the party... +I'm in italics, for some reason.

 

[Zafiro]

One of the best looking cars this year. My favorite M3 ever so far, its just perfection.

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[Betty Swollocks]

I have seen R8's and 911's in the snow.

R8's are 4WD as standard, so hardly a surprise.

I agree of course, I was just trying to say that BMWs aren't meant for snow when they don't have xDrive. Winter tires help tremendously of course, because without them the car would literally be undriveable in the snow.

I've never fitted winter tyres to any of my cars, including my E92 M3. "Literally undriveable" isn't quite correct. Does it require to gentle right foot? Yes. Does it give plenty of opportunity to go sideways? Yes. Sometimes even through my own choice.