Next generation small petrol engines from BMW

[KokkenTor]

According to German Auto Motor und Sport, the next generation 1- and 3-series will get a completely new generation petrol engines (turbo) with 3 and 4 sylinders:

x16i - 1,35 liters I3, 122hk/190Nm
x18i - 1,35 liters I3, 150hk/220Nm
x20i - 1,35 liters I3, 180hk/260Nm
x23i - 1,80 liters I4, 204hk/300Nm
x25i - 1,80 liters I4, 240hk/350Nm

 

[bmwownage]

3 cylinders.. wow..
even x25i is a 1.8L I-4, 240hp/350nm is mighty impressive for that though.. but will we ever get the mighty bmw I6 roar again??
can't quite imagine the full lineup..

 

[Mr Robert]

The big question is whether the I3 engines will be made using a longditudally or latidudally cut six cylinder engine.

 

[bmer]

A 3-cylinder engine in 3-series just sounds somewhat wrong...

 

[martinbo]

LOL at Dunkel's post! Yeah, I hate those latitudenalalythingy engines too!

 

[Human]

A 3-cylinder engine in 3-series just sounds somewhat wrong...

Yes I agree. Don't get me wrong!!! I love our planet and it's survival for our children.
I am not going get into a debate. THIS WHOLE HYBRID, ELECTRIC AND LESSER CYLINDER - thing is getting on my F@$%N NERVES!!!!!

LONG LIVE EFFICIENT 6cyl, V8 & V12 Engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SCOTT27]

The 3 Cylinder engine is the basis for the smaller platform mild hybrids.
Such as the entry level 1er and Z2. These engines are currently testing now in order to have them ready for the next 1er introduction so that BMW are ahead of the competition.

Recently there was an R&D and BOD evaluation of these cars @ BMW's test facility in Germany and there is great progress taken in having them ready for the streets , Norbert Reithofer has stated many times that he does not want BMW to talk about achievements like this but actually produce them.

 

[Giannis]

I know one thing: I will never, I mean NEVER, buy a 3-cylinder car, even if this is a BMW. Some things are to holy to change....

 

[Mr Robert]

Norbert Reithofer has stated many times that he does not want BMW to talk about achievements like this but actually produce them.

Im with Norbert on this one, I3 engines are really nothing to talk loud about. It's like riding a moped, good fun as long as no one knows about it.

 

[EnI]

Geez, guys. EU directive regarding consumption & emissions are very strict ... And no company can't afford to pay penalties - since that would be very damaging in the long run.

ALL major car companies will reduce average fleet consumption & emissions: by introducing very clean & efficient small cars & engines. Like I said many times: the trend is to introduce engines with less cylinders & lower displacement yet turbo charged (or supercharged) ... most possibly with some hybrid components like electro motor for extra power boost during acceleration.

So, BMW is no exception. So, expect 1er & 3er based models, X3, and even entry 5er models with some extremely small engines - all to meet the future standards.

But you'll still have a choice to buy eg. a 6-cyl or 8-cyl engine etc. But in the future ALL V8 and bigger engines (and most probably 6-cyl engines as well) will be paired with hybrid tech.

Times are changing ... there is no way back. The sooner will you accept that the better for you.

But be sure BMW won't sacrifice any performance due to new tech - even the opposite: EfficientDynamics is all about sporty performance combined with clean & efficient tech. So, be sure even 116i with some funny little engine will still be top among similar cars in the segment.

 

[Mr Robert]

Times are changing but I3 engines are still dorky.

 

[speed_kills]

I not just reduce the cc, but not the cylinders, something like
1.35 I4
1.8 I6
3.0 V8
4.0 V12

 

[Human]

Neither would I !!!! And I read what ENI said....I do understand, though motor manufacturers would have to wait for a new generation of buyers (they are the pre-schoolers of today) to be really interested in these small engines. I love progress, like BMW Efficient Dynamics....But a 3 cyl? NOPE! NEVER! EVER!

Tuners and rebuilders who knows their stuff could make huge money by creating 'hotrods' or 'special' vehicles from older BMW's etc.

 

[SCOTT27]

The first prototypes of the MegaCity Vehicle 1 otherwise known as the MIN-i will feature petrol engines developed from the motorrad division specific for this car.
Economical , efficient and with one possible "S" Version an extra kick.
The use of such engines are to justify the MINI-i 's intentions as an innovative mobility concept.

 

[klier]

I think there's nothing dorky about a 3 cylinder with 180 freaking horsepowers.

 

[EnI]

Neither would I !!!! And I read what ENI said....I do understand, though motor manufacturers would have to wait for a new generation of buyers (they are the pre-schoolers of today) to be really interested in these small engines. I love progress, like BMW Efficient Dynamics....But a 3 cyl? NOPE! NEVER! EVER!

Unfortunately it's not your (or any other customer's) call. It's just a reaction / adaptation to legislation, regulation etc. BMW Group won't be the only one to do that. ALL car maker will have to do it.

In the near future "civil" cars will all be somehow hybrids - either full or mild, and the combustion engines will be much smaller, much cleaner & much more efficient (also due to turbocharging etc).

Regarding small engines - you'll still be able to buy more expensive 6-cyl hybrid model instead. Or V8 hybrid. etc

I guess there will still be some "dirty" models as well - but will be priced very high since the carmakers will incorporate eco fines in the price.

Tuners and rebuilders who knows their stuff could make huge money by creating 'hotrods' or 'special' vehicles from older BMW's etc.

The question is would such cars still get approval by the authorities - and be able to be registered properly (get license plates).

 

[Mr Robert]

If people managed to register a Ferrari FFX, I don't think a slightly modified BMW with standard engines will be a problem.

Just look at the industry in Germany today.

 

[bmwownage]

It's not a problem with I3s, you just drive it, if it feels good and sounds good (more like feels like a bmw and sounds like a bmw) then it's all good, nothing else really matters given it's lighter, smaller and more efficient. but at this stage i can't quite imagine how a I3 will sound/feel like a proper bmw.. i hope driving a 1series have sounds and "feels" of driving one of the jap small cars like Jazz/Fitz/Mazda2 and the like.. Hope they won't drop the I6 though, it's nothing less than a tradition!

 

[Mr Robert]

Fair point. If it is not possible to tell that it is one of those I3 engines with no characther it might be easier to live with the shame. A car in 1-series size should also lose some 150-200 kgs.

 

[Zafiro]

and in the other thread they said 120i is getting turbocharged 4-cylinder with 218hp. I much prefer it over a 3-cylinders.