A6/S6/RS6 New Audi RS6 (Spy pics & info)

[Zafiro]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

Jag förstår.

I was looking for similar tests in my stash of car magazines but I only found a Finnish mag from 2003 where they were testing different four-wheel-drive systems in wintry conditions. They had a Suzuki Jimny with RWD/switchable 4WD, a Honda HR-V (from 100 % FWD to 50:50 split), a Skoda Octavia with the Haldex system (from 98:2 to 50:50 front/rear) and a Subaru Legacy with continuous 50:50 AWD. Sadly, the only hill test they did was towing a freakin' Mitsubishi Pajero up an icy 14% slope which doesn't sound exactly fair but I guess they wanted to prove a point. Anyways, the Jimny managed a whopping 2 meters in RWD but 29 meters in 4WD... The Skoda with its Haldex system disabled (=FWD) managed 16 meters, 83 meters in AWD... The HR-V managed 40 meters and the Subaru was the undisputed king with 103 meters.

the test was from german Autobild but translated into swedish in swedish Autobild. Cars included was A4, 3-series and a FWD car(dont remember which).

 

[martinbo]

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... and the Subaru was the undisputed king with 103 meters.

Why am I not in the least bit surprised; Subaru symmetrical all-wheel drive kicks ass and it's only going to get better.

Woo hoo!

I know... I'm a closet Subaru fanboy disguised as a moderator!

 

[PanterroR]

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Grrrr! I'm soooo pissed off 'cause i've never had a chance to try Subau, any of them!!! I wanna try that so much praised AWD, i'm sure it's amazing, right Mr. Boruvka?

How about inviting me to SA for a test drive of your Subaru, huh?

 

[Tumbo]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

Guys, isn't it time to go back on topic now ?

 

[PanterroR]

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Guys, isn't it time to go back on topic now ?

Nope, why are you asking?

j/k...

 

[Tumbo]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

Here is a new Swedish article that says that this is some new info from Audi, that the RS6 will have a kompressor V10. It will be the same engine as in the R8. In the R8 it's gonna have 600hp, but in the RS6, a little less.
http://www.automotorsport.se/nyhetsmall.asp?version=29303

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

Why should RS6 have a supercharger when Rs4 dont use it. Audi has proven with the RS4 that they can build N/A engines. My gut tell me that this will be the case with Rs6 as well.

 

[Tumbo]

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Why should RS6 have a supercharger when Rs4 dont use it. Audi has proven with the RS4 that they can build N/A engines. My gut tell me that this will be the case with Rs6 as well.

Just_me, can you find a translator that translates thw whole article. It's very interesting with a lot of news!

 

[Zafiro]

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Just_me, can you find a translator that translates thw whole article. It's very interesting with a lot of news!

nope, sorry cant help you, only if this was in german it would be easier.

 

[Tumbo]

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nope, sorry cant help you, only if this was in german it would be easier.

I'll try to translate the most important stuff myself later.

 

[MikeJ]

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The article says it's going to have a two turbos and a supercharger (basically the same technology as in the VW Golf TSI, except with an extra turbo) now doesn't it?

 

[martinbo]

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The article says it's going to have a two turbos and a supercharger (basically the same technology as in the VW Golf TSI, except with an extra turbo) now doesn't it?

Now surely that's gotta be speculation if not purely imaginative!
Still, I like the idea. Holy cow... imagine the plumbing on that thing.

I seriously doubt this...

 

[Zafiro]

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Now surely that's gotta be speculation if not purely imaginative!
Still, I like the idea. Holy cow... imagine the plumbing on that thing.

I seriously doubt this...

of course its not officiell - its based on rumours - as usually. Nothing is officiell until we hear it from themselves.

I have a question to Audi people. Before the RS4 was released there was talk that the RS4 was going to get turbo, that didnt happen. All new S-models and including the new RS4 use a N/A engine. So why should the RS6 use turbo?

Also you should learn a lesson by now. Remember when everyone said that S6/S8
was going to get about 450hp, that didnt happen either. It "only" got 420hp. So dont get to excited about those 600hp.

 

[Top Secret]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

The article says it's going to have a two turbos and a supercharger (basically the same technology as in the VW Golf TSI, except with an extra turbo) now doesn't it?

That just sounds like pure overkill. It was not long ago that the complexity of having a sequential turbo system was too much - so having two turbos AND a supercharger just sounds way too 'up there'.

Anyway, doesn't having two turbos make the supercharger redundant?

 

[martinbo]

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of course its not officiell - its based on rumours - as usually. Nothing is officiell until we hear it from themselves.

That's obvious. It's more about the concept and the absurdity of the whole thing. Hence my surprise. Anyone with a clear understanding of the twin-charger technology will realise that the technology is limited to in-line engines with one turbo and one supercharger... whilst a V configuration with two turbos and a supercharger might be remotely mechanically feasible - it just isn't practical nor economically viable.

But for just a second, picture if VW can squeeze 120 kW from a Twincharger 1.4 litre imagine the possibility for higher displacement engines irrespective of the feasiblity thereof.

Also you should learn a lesson by now. Remember when everyone said that S6/S8
was going to get about 450hp, that didnt happen either. It "only" got 420hp. So dont get to excited about those 600hp.

Umm, the S8 did get 450 bhp. Only the S6 got 420 bhp from (slightly) lower rpm.

Anyway, doesn't having two turbos make the supercharger redundant?

Redundant only if the turbos are mounted in sequence, otherwise a supercharger would still function in exactly the same way as it would for the 1.4 Twincharger engine which requires high exhaust energy to spool the turbo up and whilst this is taking place, the supercharger provides boost from low rpm.

 

[Zafiro]

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Umm, the S8 did get 450 bhp. Only the S6 got 420 bhp from (slightly) lower rpm.
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ops thats true , then its only the S6.

 

[Zafiro]

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How many think the RS6 will get 600hp? I dare to challenge you guys, bet some money

 

[Lemantech]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

How many think the RS6 will get 600hp? I dare to challenge you guys, bet some money

i already challenged you that it would have 550......................................................................

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

i already challenged you that it would have 550......................................................................

Did we challenge each others a long time ago?

 

[Lemantech]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

yes....only about 5 pages worth We bothe kept on saying


"No, the Audi will not have 550 hp"

"Yes it will have 550 hp"
..........................................................................................................................and so on